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November 13, 2015 at 4:54 pm #34073
znModeratorRams Tape Study: What’s Wrong on Third Down? Everything
Does Wes Welker’s arrival provide a quick fix to everything that’s wrong with the Rams’ passing offense on third down? Not likely.
I would like to say that the problems with the Rams on third down boiled down to one simple factor. Improve THIS ONE THING, and suddenly the Rams succeed. However, as this tape study shows, the Rams have major issues in all facets of the third-down passing game.
For this play breakdown, RamBuck and I focused on the “makeable” third downs (3rd-and-7 or less) from the last three games. With a sample size of 19, we thought we had enough for a fair assessment of what’s working and what’s not.
The NFL success rate on these third downs ranges from 45-55%, per a study by Chase Stuart. The Rams got only 5 first downs on these 19 plays, a paltry 26% success rate. Let’s have a closer look at what’s going on.
Digging into the personnel
For comparison’s sake, a breakdown of personnel/pre-snap formations is as follows:
Total charted 3rd and 7 or fewer plays: 19
Plays in shotgun: 15 (79%)
Plays in pistol: 1 (5%)
Success of plays in shotgun: 3/15 (20%)
Success of plays not in shotgun: 2/4 (50%)
Personnel groupings:11: 11 total (58%)
12: 3 total (16%)
21: 2 total (11%)
22: 1 total (5%)
13: 1 total (5%)
03: 1 total (5%)
One notable observation is that the Rams changed their personnel groupings significantly on 3rd down when they faced the Vikings. After using 11 personnel over 90% of the time on 3rd and 7 or less vs. Browns/49ers, they only used it once in 8 plays (12.5%). They also introduced much heavier personnel vs. the Vikings, going with multiple tight ends for 6 of 8 plays (75%) and 3 tight ends twice. It’s unclear if this was a specific matchup that Cignetti thought the Rams could win vs the Vikings’ physical corners, or if this was just taking advantage of Kendricks being more healthy than he had in weeks.What’s Working on 3rd Down
Here’s one rare example of a third down play that was designed well and worked perfectly.
3rd and 6
Personnel: 12Lining up for a third and six, Frank Cignetti draws up a simple concept — flood a zone with more receivers than the defense can cover. Tavon Austin is outside the numbers to the left, with Lance Kendricks in the slot and Cory Harkey attached to the line. All three will go into their routes with Kendricks and Harkey dragging defenders toward the middle of the field. It’s a bit strange to have two slow TEs here, but the outside CB responds to Tavon’s speed threat by playing off coverage.
With the Vikings rushing only four, Foles has all day and a plethora of options, particularly as Gurley has no one to block and leaks out into the flat. As Foles drops back, he keeps his eyes locked on the middle linebacker to freeze him in place. Austin runs up the stem and forces the CB to take a couple steps backwards, creating separation before he goes into his break and making him an obvious target. Foles delivers the ball relatively on time and Austin has enough wiggle to slip a tackle at the sticks and get first down yardage.
This kind of execution should be the staple, but for whatever reason is not. What’s going on to blow up these plays? You name it, we found it.
What’s Not Working on 3rd Down
Poor QB execution on predetermined targets
3rd-and-4
Personnel: 03Against the Vikings, Cignetti attempted to win big on several occasions, sending three TEs out in pass formation. This may have been a product of using hurry-up to transition from 2nd to 3rd down, hoping to be able to catch the opposing defense flat-footed. However, against the Vikings’ sure-tackling base secondary, this tactic failed to create any noticeable advantages.
Still, however, this play should have worked but for Foles’ maddening slowness in his dropback, read and delivery.
The Rams go empty on third-and-four, never a favorite of mine as it completely eliminates the threat of the run. Kendricks, Cook and Harkey are lined up as a “big trips” formation to the right, and each runs similar out-breaking routes. Cook appears to be the primary target, and runs a fairly crisp curl route.
However, the danger of running this route vs off coverage is that as soon as the receiver starts his break, the defender can recognize it and make his own break on the ball. In QB breakdowns, you constantly hear analysts like Greg Cosell talk about the need to throw the ball before the WR starts his break. This is a clear example of that. If Foles gets the ball out on time, Cook can make an unimpeded catch. If the ball is late, the pass gets broken up — or worse.
Even though all Foles has to do is catch the snap, drop back one step and throw, his footwork and motion is so slow that by the time this happens the window for this route is closed.
Poor blitz / rush pickup
3rd-and-6
Personnel: 11In week 7, the Browns clearly wanted to set a tone on defense in the Rams’ first third-and-makeable opportunity of the game, a 3rd-and-6 play in the second quarter. Showing no respect for the run or Foles’ ability to beat a blitz, the Browns put all of their front seven at the line of scrimmage, showing big blitz. In response, Foles motions Benny Cunningham from the right to the left side of the formation.
However, as the Browns rush six, something goes horribly wrong. Greg Robinson lunges to take the outside rusher and misses entirely, and Cunningham is forced to clean up the mess. He lets the inside rusher come free rather than the outside man, putting the pass rush one step closer to Foles. Foles whirls and throws over Tavon Austin’s head as Quick begins to set a pick for a WR screen.
It’s unclear if the throw to Tavon was his primary read, though it wouldn’t be surprising given the pattern of plays we’ve watched. But if Benny and the left side of the OL had been capable of picking up that blitz for a second longer, Jared Cook immediately comes free deep for a possible touchdown.
Failure to execute pre-throw picks
3rd-and-3
Personnel: 11On a third-and-three shortly afterwards, the Browns provide a different look, rushing only three and dropping eight into coverage. You would expect Benny Cunningham to realize that he has no job in the pocket and leak out into the flat, but he does not, effectively taking himself out of the play.
Thus, Foles’ only read is to Tavon Austin, who is running a shallow cross underneath three verticals — each of whom is adequately covered. Jared Cook has the job of chipping the linebacker in coverage to help Austin get separation, but he fails to register much of a chip and the LB quickly switches coverage to Austin and breaks up the play, getting away with some legal mugging inside the five-yard zone.
Strange play calls
3rd-and-7
Personnel: 11Why are the Rams so afraid of going over the middle for these third-down conversions? It’s a mystery to both of us. Nonetheless, here we have another designed quick-hitting play that fails because our quarterback isn’t fast enough in his motion to execute it.
The Vikings DBs are playing close on the Rams’ big-body receivers Quick and Britt on 3rd-and-7. Foles executes a quick play-fake on an inside handoff to Cunningham to draw the linebackers in as the RT Reynolds and RG Brown drift out to set up a screen. Foles then turns and throws out to his receiver, but he hop-throws it without any real velocity.
However, the defensive backs are spaced smartly, and blow up the attempt by Britt to occupy both defenders while Quick catches the ball. By the time the ball arrives, four defenders are closing to snuff out the play before it has a chance.
Flat-out drops
3rd-and-3
Personnel: 11 (looks like 20)Sometimes, even when everything works, the play fails at the last possible moment because of the Rams’ old nemesis: drops.
Here we have a beautiful play-call on third-and-3 in the first quarter against San Francisco. Presnap motion from Stedman Bailey in the slot helps Foles identify man coverage from the defense, at which point he likely shifts his priority from a shorter route to a deep sideline route from Kenny Britt.
The 49ers rush only four and drop three LBs to the sticks to shut down the dump-off options to Cook or Gurley, coming out of the backfield. As Foles drops back, he keeps his eyes locked on the safety to freeze him in the center of the field. The OL holds up well, and Foles snaps his head over to where Britt is rapidly gaining vertical separation and throws a perfect deep ball…
…which gets bobbled and bumbled and falls to the ground. Time to punt, yet again.
What can be done?
I’d like to be optimistic that bringing in a veteran third-down-man like Wes Welker will instantly make a difference. However, he will be operating in this same slow-timed offense, dependent on his quarterback and the offensive line not to blow up plays before they start.
What needs fixing? More than Welker alone can provide.
November 14, 2015 at 11:28 am #34100
znModeratorThird-down conversions first priority for St. Louis Rams
Nick Wagoner
EARTH CITY, Mo. — One day after signing wide receiver Wes Welker, St. Louis Rams coach Jeff Fisher was so excited about the prospect of Welker improving his team’s dreadful third-down conversion rate that he called his new wideout by the wrong name when discussing the possibilities.
“You know what I’ll anticipate if he does play and he converts the first down, they’ll probably start chanting ‘Walker’ rather than ‘Gurley,’” Fisher said.
Obviously, Fisher meant Welker, but whether it’s Welker or Jimmy Walker, anyone who can help the Rams improve their NFL-worst third-down conversion rate from it’s current 23.8 percent would qualify as dyn-o-mite for Fisher and the Rams.
Eight games into the season, that third-down conversion rate is not only the worst in the NFL but on pace to be the worst since STATS, LLC began tracking it in 1972. The Rams have converted between zero and two third downs in five of their eight games, with the season high of six coming in the season opener against Seattle.
In the past three games, the Rams are an especially anemic four-of-37, and they are 24-of-101 this season, which is far and away the worst mark in the NFL. Miami is the closest at 28.9 percent.
In the ESPN Stats & Information database that goes back to 2001, the 2002 Dallas Cowboys and 2005 San Francisco 49ers were closest to the Rams’ current rate at an even 24 percent. By way of comparison, the 2014 Rams were 27th at 35.4 percent, going 68-of-192. Cleveland was last at 29.5 percent.
No matter how you slice it, the inability to convert third downs and sustain drives has been the Rams’ single biggest problem in the first half of the season.
“It’s not good,” Fisher said. “We need to get better. Four in three games is not good. Like I said, I’ll take five or six of them, but four in three games is not good. We have to get better. That’s a coaching thing. That’s a player thing. That’s a quarterback thing. It’s everybody that’s involved in that, so we’ll get better.”
Well, one would think they’d almost have to get better just by dumb luck but as Fisher points out, the failure to be better on third down can be attributed across the board. But one place to start would be finding more success on first and second down to create more manageable third downs.
Of their 101 third-down opportunities, 63 of them have been from 6 yards or further. As you’d expect, the Rams have been particularly bad in those situations, converting 11 of those, a 17.5 percent conversion rate. Between 1 and 5 yards, the Rams have converted 13-of-38 for a more palatable 34.2 percent.
Along with that, the Rams have converted 31.3 percent of their third downs on the 16 run plays they’ve tried. When they pass, the Rams are 19-of-85 for 22.4 percent.
In other words, faring better on first and second down would go a long way toward more third-down conversions.
“That helps third down a lot,” quarterback Nick Foles said. “First and second down, staying inside of the sticks, not getting to third-and-7 plus. The percentage of converting on those isn’t nearly as high. Staying inside of the chains will help us a lot. First and second down are huge for us.”
Aside from having more success on the first two downs, one simple solution falls at the feet of offensive coordinator Frank Cignetti and Foles: Throwing the ball at or past the first down marker on third down.
Of those 85 third-down pass plays the Rams have tried, they’ve attempted 44 that were short of the first-down marker. To nobody’s surprise, they’ve converted just four of those for 9.1 percent. When they actually throw to the marker or beyond, they’ve converted 15-of-41 for 36.6 percent.
“We just have to continue to work on it,” Fisher said. “Give Nick some options, different concepts, do better on first downs. You guys have got the numbers. We had 16. We’re two for 16. I think six of them were seven to 10 and we had four or five that were 10-plus. It’s hard. So, it all works together. But, we have to get better there.”
That’s where the Rams are hoping that Welker will come in. Welker built his reputation in the league as the ideal chains-mover, the type of slot receiver who can operate in short areas with crisp, quick routes that offer easy completions for first downs.
Since 2001, Welker is eighth in the NFL among active players in third-down receptions (213), seventh in third-down catches that result in a first down (168) and fourth in catch percentage (64) on third-down passes thrown his way.
At 34, Welker is coming off a series of injuries that include myriad concussions. Expecting him to magically solve the third-down issues is probably asking too much. But if nothing else, his veteran savvy and reliable hands should be a welcome sight when the Rams face third downs. Even just another three or four conversions per game would go a long way in getting the Rams back toward the NFL average.
“I don’t see myself as being the solution to all that or anything like that,” Welker said. “I’m just here trying to learn the offense and trying to contribute any way I can and help out any way I can.”
November 14, 2015 at 11:32 am #34101
znModeratorfrom Bernie Miklasz
http://www.101sports.com/2015/11/13/the-five-keys-to-a-rams-victory-over-chicago/
full article here: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/reporters-preview-the-bears-game/#post-34085
3. Want To Do Better on Third Down? Here’s How: By now we’re tired of mentioning that the Rams’ third-down conversion rate, an abysmal 23.7 percent, is the poorest by an NFL team since the statistic became official in 1972. But here’s one way to get around that — come up with more positive results on first and second down. The Rams’ inconsistency and weakness in getting to third down is as much of a problem as executing on third down. Here’s a number that tells us a lot: when the Rams break the huddle and line up for second down, they face an average of 8.68 yards to go for a first down. No NFL team has been in a deeper second-down hole than the Rams this season.
Moreover, their second-down performance is lacking. According to STATS LLC the Rams are ranked last in the NFL in successful second-down plays — picking up 50 percent of the yards needed for a first down only 39 percent of the time. Their second-down rushing log is pretty dismal; the Rams have lost yards 11 times and gained no more than 2 yards on half of their 64 runs. The struggles on first and second down create too many highly unfavorable situations on third down. When the Rams need 6+ yards on third down this season, they’ve converted only 8 of 55 — or 14.5%. And when the Rams have to come up with 10+ yards on third down, they’ve failed 31 times out of 36. (A success rate of 14 percent). We spend a lot of time looking at what the Rams are doing wrong on third down. But speaking for myself, I haven’t paid enough attention to their skimpy production on the first two downs.
November 14, 2015 at 1:07 pm #34104
wvParticipantfrom Bernie Miklasz
http://www.101sports.com/2015/11/13/the-five-keys-to-a-rams-victory-over-chicago/
full article here: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/reporters-preview-the-bears-game/#post-34085
3. Want To Do Better on Third Down? Here’s How: By now we’re tired of mentioning that the Rams’ third-down conversion rate, an abysmal 23.7 percent, is the poorest by an NFL team since the statistic became official in 1972….
Moreover, their second-down performance is lacking. According to STATS LLC the Rams are ranked last in the NFL in successful second-down plays …
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Yeah, its not a “third down problem” — it’s
an “Offense problem.”
A “pass offense problem” mostly.The question is,
is it the QB, the Receivers,
the Oline, the OC/Fisher,
or all of the above ?And is it going to improve?
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November 14, 2015 at 1:40 pm #34106
znModeratorYeah, its not a “third down problem” — it’s
an “Offense problem.”
A “pass offense problem” mostly.I still hold out for the idea that this is newness.
New and first time coordinator.
New qb.
Coordinator and qb don’t know one another.
New and first time OL.
OL doesn’t know one another.
Add regression in the receivers, though lots of reasons for that.
Out of sync.
By that I mean this. Imagine this world (thought experiment). In 2014, Rams promote Cignetti, trade for Foles, and start the OL over again with young players.
In 2015 they would have increased familiarity and better cohesion, and so would be better than the Real Version Of The 2015 Offense is in actual history.
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