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  • #20609
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    Wagoner has the same cap figure as JT, around 11 million. Ironically, that is around the same amount of cap space that we gained by trading Bradford for Foles.

    Agamemnon

    #20669
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    Wagoner has the same cap figure as JT, around 11 million. Ironically, that is around the same amount of cap space that we gained by trading Bradford for Foles.

    You mentioned turning the Quinn roster bonus into a signing bonus. What is the deadline for that?

    And there are some potential cuts too I think. Givens, Pead, Donald s …who else?

    #20672
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    You mentioned turning the Quinn roster bonus into a signing bonus. What is the deadline for that?

    And there are some potential cuts too I think. Givens, Pead, Donald s …who else?

    They can restructure Quinn at any time. Do you really mean Donald? Givens and Pead is probably as far as I would go. Remember, I am not a big fan of paying a premium for any of the offensive free agents out there. Well, maybe Barksdale. But, I think with a Quinn restructure and cutting Pead and Givens it is enough to get through 2016. That gives the ~10/11 million for 2016 and it gives them 11 million(the space they have now) to try to sign ?2/3 free agent offensive linemen.

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    #20674
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    They can restructure Quinn at any time. Do you really mean Donald? Givens and Pead is probably as far as I would go. Remember, I am not a big fan of paying a premium for any of the offensive free agents out there. Well, maybe Barksdale. But, I think with a Quinn restructure and cutting Pead and Givens it is enough to get through 2016. That gives the ~10/11 million for 2016 and it gives them 11 million(the space they have now) to try to sign ?2/3 free agent offensive linemen.

    That’s true with Quinn isn’t it…meaning, even if he already collected the roster bonus, they can still re-structure it.

    Naw I was kidding on Donald. Just making everyone’s day a little more surreal.

    But I am talking about space now. In 2015. The Quinn thing, Pead, Givens. Am I misunderstanding you?

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    #20675
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    The Rams could do even more than that and cut things closer on the operating capitol for 2015, but that is such a bad idea I refuse to discuss it. 😉 Remember some of the new contracts have bonus moneys, that can’t be completely ignored. imo

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    #20676
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    That’s true with Quinn isn’t it…meaning, even if he already collected the roster bonus, they can still re-structure it.

    Naw I was kidding on Donald. Just making everyone’s day a little more surreal.

    But I am talking about space now. In 2015. The Quinn thing, Pead, Givens. Am I misunderstanding you?

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    I guess they would have to do Quinn before his Roster Bonus is due or they could do regular salary into bonus at any time, but again how much of this stuff is really productive?

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    #20677
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    If you ad the money from Quinn and Givins and Pead. You could say the Rams have ~22 million in cap space now. They just haven’t cashed in Q,G, and P. There are numerous ways to gain temporary cap space, but then you are just heading to cap hell. imo

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    #20689
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    f you ad the money from Quinn and Givins and Pead. You could say the Rams have ~22 million in cap space now. They just haven’t cashed in Q,G, and P. There are numerous ways to gain temporary cap space, but then you are just heading to cap hell. imo

    For the record, doing just CG and IP gives them around 2.4+ M.

    That would make it about 13+ M, with I figure around 6 M going to rookies and another 2 M or so going to the practice squad and the season.

    Quinn would add about another 8 M. You subtract around a 10+ M roster bonus, turn it to a pro-rated signing bonus, and then the signing bonus takes 2+ M out of that 10+ M.

    Ag, did I do that right? s

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    #20690
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    For the record, doing just CG and IP gives them around 2.4+ M.

    That would make it about 13+ M, with I figure around 6 M going to rookies and another 2 M or so going to the practice squad and the season.

    Quinn would add about another 8 M. You subtract around a 10+ M roster bonus, turn it to a pro-rated signing bonus, and then the signing bonus takes 2+ M out of that 10+ M.

    Ag, did I do that right? s

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    The math is correct. The rookie pool is 5 million. You need to add ~5 million for IR.

    I know it is messed up, but it is close enough. 😉

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    #20692
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    The math is correct. The rookie pool is 5 million. You need to add ~5 million for IR.

    You know who we forgot? Sims. That’s just under 3 M. Could be they draft someone (it’s a deep year for good DEs) or they like Westbrooks or something like that. It’s the final year of his contract.

    #20693
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    You know who we forgot? Sims. That’s just under 3 M. Could be they draft someone (it’s a deep year for good DEs) or they like Westbrooks or something like that. It’s the final year of his contract.

    I didn’t forget Simms. I like him. I will keep him. If they draft somebody they will just add him to the Dline and go with 9 instead of 8. Beside that maybe they add a DT instead of a DE? Westbrooks can possibly play a bit of both DE/DT. imo

    You know, that Ayers guy is almost big enough to be a DE. Maybe Brodine goes back to the Dline this year?

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    #20700
    Herzog
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    I don’t want them to cut Givens. I want them to stop trying to use him as an all around receiver and make use them as they did his rookie year…as a deep threat specialist.

    Foley can sell the play action…. Givens could have value.

    #20703
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    If we draft a WR, I believe Givens is gone anyway. Otherwise, yeah, maybe they will keep him if they don’t spend too much on free agents.

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    #20756
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    It appears that Fairley’s numbers don’t make sense, but I am not worried about it. I will check it later. So, just Britt’s contract left until they make some more moves.

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