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  • #164699
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    In the 90’s ‘football did not love you back.’
    (not sure if this is AI bullshit, but…ya know)

    #164850
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    #164863
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    Take a look at this hit on Roman. Bout 35 seconds in, or so.

    Almost cork-screwed his head off.

    (btw, that is cornerback Pat Thomas of the Rams hitting the Tampa guy)

    These quarterbacks today….

    #165001
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    Rams secondary. Colts WR.

    #165007
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    This hit my feed today:

    Rams FULL QB History

    #165013
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    This hit my feed today:

    Rams FULL QB History…

    That was awesome. Didn’t realize Everett had a losing record. 46-59. I would have guessed it was more like the reverse of that.

    The Cleveland Ram years are so…unknown to me. I know just what was in the vid, but thats not much. I wish there were more vids of that era. I wonder how many Cleveland people remember or care about the Cleveland Ram years.

    Two Quarterbacks from one team make the pro-bowl the same year. Van Brocklin and Waterfield. I bet that never happens again.

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    #165016
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    If nothing else watch the last three or four minutes of that Rams QB vid. Clips of the not-so-great ram-qbs. Jamie Martin. Steve Dils. Pete Beathard.(omg), Gus Frerotte, Steve Bono, Mark Rypien, Dan Pastorini, Jeff Rutledge, Carson Wentz, Nick Foles, Sean Mannion, Brock Berlin, SCott Covington, Brett Rypien (who?), Jimmy Garoppolo, Baker Mayfield, Bryce Perkins, John Wolford….

    I am not sure…but i think Brock Berlin may have been the worst of all of em.

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    #165019
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    Jamie Martin. Steve Dils. Pete Beathard.(omg), Gus Frerotte, Steve Bono, Mark Rypien, Dan Pastorini, Jeff Rutledge, Carson Wentz, Nick Foles, Sean Mannion, Brock Berlin, SCott Covington, Brett Rypien (who?), Jimmy Garoppolo, Baker Mayfield, Bryce Perkins, John Wolford….

    I am not sure…but i think Brock Berlin may have been the worst of all of em.

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    They forgot Case Keenum, Austin Davis, and Kellen Clemens.

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    They forgot Case Keenum, Austin Davis, and Kellen Clemens.

    They are in the vid, just not the last vignette.

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    #165022
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    They forgot Case Keenum, Austin Davis, and Kellen Clemens.

    They are in the vid, just not the last vignette.

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    Ah

    #165033
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    This was not a good play.

    #165035
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    This was not a good play.

    3 huge errors in that game.

    1. Cromwell dropped the INT.
    2. Safety Eddie Brown didn’t hear an audible shifting the coverage, and being out of position cost them the Stallwort 73-yard TD pass.
    3. When Vince threw that pick to Lambert, Waddy was running wide open down the field on that play, completely uncovered.

    But they took it to the Steelers for a good game. It’s just that the 3 mistakes cost them.

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    Apparently there’s this long-running game called Madden. And apparently getting a 99 score is a big deal. Marshall Faulk got a 99 in 2002.

    Kurt Warner, Orlando Pace, Isaac Bruce, Torry Holt, Steven Jackson, Cooper Kupp — never made 99

    Aaron Donald has the all-time 99 record in Madden. 7 times a 99. Peyton Manning had 6. Ray Lewis 5. Some other notables: Mahomes 4. JJ Watt 4. Champ Bailey 4 Jonathan Ogden 4.

    Here are the 99s in Madden this year:

    JaMarr Chase
    Trey McBride
    JSN
    Josh Allen
    Stafford
    Myles Garrett

    Full list of 99s
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2025/07/28/madden-99-club-full-list-history/84403997007/

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    Jamie Martin. Steve Dils. Pete Beathard.(omg), Gus Frerotte, Steve Bono, Mark Rypien, Dan Pastorini, Jeff Rutledge, Carson Wentz, Nick Foles, Sean Mannion, Brock Berlin, SCott Covington, Brett Rypien (who?), Jimmy Garoppolo, Baker Mayfield, Bryce Perkins, John Wolford….

    I am not sure…but i think Brock Berlin may have been the worst of all of em.

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    They forgot Case Keenum, Austin Davis, and Kellen Clemens.

    Bert Jones?

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    I am not sure…but i think Brock Berlin may have been the worst of all of em

    Scott Covington. Martz benched him in 2002 after just 5 attempts. He was sacked twice and completed 2 for 7 yards.

    Brock Berlin made it through a whole game in 2007. Though, with a qb rating of 60.6.

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    Scott Covington. Martz benched him in 2002 after just 5 attempts. He was sacked twice and completed 2 for 7 yards.

    Brock Berlin made it through a whole game in 2007. Though, with a qb rating of 60.6.

    You’ve always been a Berlin-sniffer. Brock Sterling Berlin was CUT by the Hamburg Sea Devils.

    Covington, who, for three years, was third string behind Akili Smith and Scott Mitchell in Cincy, appeared in three whole games. Completing FOUR of FIVE passes. For 23 yards. He also ran the ball twice for minus 4 yards.

    And that is totally ignoring his time as an Argo-naut.

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    #165082
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    Scott Covington. Martz benched him in 2002 after just 5 attempts. He was sacked twice and completed 2 for 7 yards.

    Brock Berlin made it through a whole game in 2007. Though, with a qb rating of 60.6.

    You’ve always been a Berlin-sniffer. Brock Sterling Berlin was CUT by the Hamburg Sea Devils.

    Covington, who, for three years, was third string behind Akili Smith and Scott Mitchell in Cincy, appeared in three whole games. Completing FOUR of FIVE passes. For 23 yards. He also ran the ball twice for minus 4 yards.

    And that is totally ignoring his time as an Argo-naut.

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    People flinch at reminders of the old Harris v. Jaworski, Ferragamo v. Haden, and Warner v. Bulger debates.

    But those pale in comparison to the devasatation and horror wrought by the old Berlin v. Covington wars.

    The humanity….

    #165083
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    The humanity….

    Just wait til the Ty Simpson vs Stetson Whatshisname gets fired up.

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    #165181
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    1974. Sigh.

    #165206
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    Chris Carter (wasnt he almost a Ram, once?) picks the five best WR duos in history.

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    wiki

    Jerome Bettis trade

    The Jerome Bettis trade was a trade between the Pittsburgh Steelers and the St. Louis Rams of the National Football League (NFL). The trade occurred on April 20, 1996, the same day as the first day of the 1996 NFL draft. The Rams were trying to transition to more of a passing offense and felt that running back Jerome Bettis was already on the downside of his career while also feeling that Nebraska running back Lawrence Phillips would be a better fit for their offense. Bettis was traded, along with the Rams’ third round pick in 1996, to the Steelers in exchange for their second round pick in 1996 and their fourth round picks in the 1997 NFL draft.

    While the compensation to the Rams by the Steelers was small compared to the Herschel Walker trade and the forthcoming Ricky Williams trade, the deal had longstanding impacts on both franchises. Coupled with Phillips subsequently becoming a draft bust due to off-the-field issues, the trade has since become one of the more lopsided deals in NFL history, strongly favoring the Steelers and eventually leading to Bettis’s induction to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2015.

    Background

    The then-Los Angeles Rams had selected Bettis with their first round pick in the 1993 NFL draft, and the bruising halfback from Notre Dame flourished under the offense of head coach Chuck Knox, gaining 2,454 rushing yards his first two seasons and being named the consensus NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year in 1993. However, Bettis was one of the few bright spots for the Rams at this time, as the team struggled to losing seasons in both of his first two years in the NFL and leading to Knox’s dismissal following the 1994 NFL season.

    In 1995, the Rams moved east to St. Louis, bringing in former Oregon head coach Rich Brooks to be their new head coach. Brooks installed a more passing-oriented offense, and Bettis was limited to 637 yards,[1] a significant dropoff from his 1993 and 1994 totals. Some sports journalists, knowing the short lifespan of running backs in the NFL, thought Bettis might already be done. The coaching staff did as well; Brooks asked Bettis whether he wanted to move back to his college position[2] of fullback for the upcoming 1996 season or preferred to be traded. By this time, most NFL teams had transitioned the fullback to a lead blocking role. While Bettis’s size made him well-suited to lead block, he asked to be traded, believing he could still help an NFL team with his running.

    Meanwhile, the Rams saw potential in Nebraska running back Lawrence Phillips, and planned to select him in the 1996 NFL draft even though his well-documented off-the-field issues gave other NFL teams pause.
    The trade

    The Rams had interest from teams for Bettis’s services, primarily the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Houston Oilers, both of whom had run-heavy offenses.[3] For the Oilers part, the team was entering its second full season under head coach Jeff Fisher and was still rebuilding from its late 1980s-early 1990s success after a threat from owner Bud Adams was followed through on blowing up that organization if it didn’t reach the Super Bowl. The team had also announced a move to Nashville for the 1998 NFL season, which was expedited by one year due to lame duck status in Houston.[citation needed]

    With the Steelers, head coach Bill Cowher had been enamored by Bettis since his rookie season, when he had his breakout game in Week 2 against the Steelers by rushing for 76 yards and one touchdown (including a 29-yard run) in a 27-0 Rams win, and couldn’t believe that Bettis was available for trade.[2] Cowher had a balanced offense during his first four years, having a power running back during each of those years, first with Barry Foster (a holdover from Chuck Noll’s tenure), then with Bam Morris after injuries cut Foster’s career short. In all of those years, the team’s offense was led by quarterback Neil O’Donnell. Coming off an appearance in Super Bowl XXX, O’Donnell left in free agency while Morris was arrested for marijuana possession,[4] creating a void at running back while the Steelers were transitioning into a run-oriented team.

    When Bettis was given the choice, he chose the Steelers over the Oilers due to the team’s stronger history. With a team in place, the Rams and Steelers worked out a deal:

    Traded to Pittsburgh

    Running back Jerome Bettis
    1996 third round pick (72nd overall, used to select Steve Conley)

    Traded to St. Louis

    1996 second round pick (59th overall, used to select Ernie Conwell)
    1997 fourth round pick (121st overall, later traded to the Miami Dolphins, used to select Jerome Daniels; the Rams received the 112th pick in exchange, used on Ryan Tucker)

    With the team out of the running for Bettis, the Oilers selected Ohio State running back Eddie George with their first-round pick in the draft. The deal was initially reported during ESPN’s coverage of the draft by ESPN reporter & ex-Steeler Mark Malone,[5] and confirmed by the NFL shortly after the start of the 2nd round.[6]

    Reaction and aftermath.

    Many sports journalists initially felt that the Rams got the better end of the deal due to the relatively high compensation for Bettis, feeling that he was already on the decline at 24. Even journalists in Pittsburgh felt that the price was high. They also felt that with Bettis being a pending free agent in 1997 with the expiration of his rookie contract, the trade put the Steelers into a catch-22 situation. The argument was that even if Bettis were successful, he would become too expensive to retain due to the Steelers being up against the salary cap….
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome_Bettis_trade

    #165535
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    Aikman on the sideline ranting about Switzer

    https://youtu.be/rM1qBY-qmJw?si=5VSL9Iq6fsYF6DSg&t=252

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