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  • September 30, 2024 at 8:26 pm #152465
    Avatar photoZooey
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    I’m a Dodgers fan, so I always hated him. I respected the shit out of him because the dude could play baseball. There is no question that he was one of the greatest players ever. No question.

    You can’t bet on a sport, though, in which you have a material influence. Player, manager, coach, front office.

    Betting on games is the death of the sport. You can’t do it. You just cannot do it.

    After you retire, and you are gone, then nobody cares. But betting on games while you are in any way involved is just never going to be okay.

    Now… I dunno. Based on his career, Pete Rose is a slam dunk HOF. He has the most hits of anybody ever in the history of the game. I mean….

    But dammit. You cannot compromise the entire enchilada like that. I don’t know. But…damn. You just cannot do that.

    October 1, 2024 at 6:42 am #152477
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    October 1, 2024 at 12:23 pm #152484
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    Zooey, I agree with everything you said……Giants fans couldn’t stand him either.

    You can’t bet on games that you manage or play…. Johnny Bench agrees

    The 1970’s had 2 or 3 complete teams, (pitching, fielding, baserunning, power and situational hitting)…….The Big Red Machine was one of those teams…..

    RIP Charlie Hustle

    October 2, 2024 at 2:10 pm #152500
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    No. Because fans are not in a position to affect the outcome of a game. I don’t have connections in the clubhouse. There is no way I can affect the outcome of a game. Sports leagues allying with gambling does not bring the integrity of the games into question because the leagues do not profit from the wins or losses of any of the bets. They profit from increased viewership of games, and fan dedication to watching sports. It’s not a question of whether gambling itself is good or bad; it’s a question of whether games are perceived to be fixed.

    Pete Rose had a personal financial stake in the outcomes of games, and was in a position to benefit from inside information, make game decisions, or solicit collaboration from others who could affect outcomes. Whether he actually did any of that is not the most important thing. It’s important, but it’s not the most important thing. He could have. And even if he didn’t, allowing him to gamble means you have to let everybody in the game gamble, and if you do that, it is inevitable that somebody somewhere would throw a game. And you just cannot have that.

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