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    Coach Dan Casey@CoachDanCasey
    Cool story from Sean McVay about one of Matthew Stafford’s most ridiculous throws from 2023.

    Throughout the week as they were game planning they noticed that Browns DC Jim Schwartz was bringing Double Edge Pressure with Split Safety Coverage against their Condensed Formations.

    During their Saturday Walkthrough (the day before the game) Stafford asked McVay if they could check out of a called run and get into a 4 Verts Concept vs. this defensive look.

    McVay responded, “Does a bear sh*t in the woods? Of course you can!”

    Stafford checked into 4 Verts, brought the RB across the formation for 6-Man Protection and sent Puka Nacua on a Seam down the middle of the field vs. the Mike LB.

    Puka Nacua said he could feel the Mike LB Sione Takitaki playing visual on the Seam so he used “Late Hands” so Takitaki couldn’t get the deflection.

    The perfect check vs. the perfect defense.

    A perfect throw and catch.

    “Is football fun or what??” – Sean McVay

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    from PFF Quarterback Rankings: https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-quarterback-rankings-all-32-starters-2024-nfl-season

    7. MATTHEW STAFFORDLOS ANGELES RAMS

    Something something about fine wines getting better with age. Stafford had a fantastic season at age 35. His 83.8 passing grade in the regular season ranked seventh in the league, while his 32 big-time throws were the fifth most and his 2.1% turnover-worthy play rate placed second behind  Prescott.

    Stafford has long had one of the best arms in the league, and even if that total arm talent is going down slightly, he’s making up for it with wisdom, creativity and craftiness.

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    from https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2024/06/10/rams-blake-corum-matthew-stafford-practice-otas-quote/?taid=66674b07a99924000186e471&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=twitter

    Corum was recently on the “Rich Eisen Show” and he was almost speechless when talking about how good Stafford is.

    “I haven’t sat down with Stafford and picked his brain, but let me just tell you this: His ball placement, his IQ – phenomenal quarterback,” Corum said. “It’s crazy how he puts the ball where no one else can get it. It’s absolutely ridiculous. He’s great, man.”

    Eisen asked Corum what specifically is so impressive about Stafford and he immediately mentioned his no-look passes.

    “The way he can look this way but throw the ball this way, it blows my mind,” Corum said. “But that’s why he’s been in the league so long and been great at what he does for so long. It’s exciting being in the backfield with Matthew Stafford.”

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    roberto clemente@rclemente2121
    stafford:  healthy vs unhealthy?

    2021 + second half of 2023 (24 games):
    18-6
    103.4 qb rating
    57 tds / 21 int
    27.3 offensive pts per game
    super bowl ring

    2022 + first half of 2023 (18 games):
    6-11
    84.8 qb rating
    18 tds / 15 int
    19.2 offensive pts per game

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    TOP 9 Matthew Stafford Career Game Winning Drives

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    from https://www.lafbnetwork.com/matthew-stafford-named-best-over-30-qb/

    the 33rd Team’s and former general manager of the Minnesota Vikings, Jeff Diamond isn’t worried about Stafford this year. He named him to his recent ranking of the best NFL players over 30.

    Diamond ranked Stafford as the 10th best over 30 player in the league overall and the best quarterback hands-down. Only two quarterbacks were listed, Stafford and Dak Prescott, who came in just behind Stafford at 11th. Prescott turned 30 just under one year ago.

    This means he beat out the 40 year old former back to back MVP, Aaron Rodgers and Kirk Cousins. At 36, Stafford is the oldest of all members of this ranking. The next closest in age is San Francisco 49ers offensive tackle, Trent Williams at 35. The list of 20 was made up of seven 30 year olds, two 31 year olds, three 32 year olds, two 33 year olds, and four 34 year olds.

    Four starting quarterbacks have won a Super Bowl after the age of 36; Tom Brady (x4), Peyton Manning, Johnny Unitas, and John Elway (x2)

    Here is Diamond’s case;

    The Super Bowl victory led by Matthew Stafford for the Rams in 2021 is what puts him ahead of Prescott.

    Stafford was the first overall pick by the Detroit Lions in 2009. He’s their career passing leader in numerous categories including career passing yards (45,109) and TD passes (282). He led the Lions to the playoffs three times in his 12 seasons in Detroit (without a postseason victory). Stafford broke through with his Super Bowl run in the first year after being traded to the Rams.

    After an injury-filled season in 2022, Stafford led the Rams to a wild card berth last season as he threw for 3,965 yards and 24 TDs in his second Pro Bowl season.

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    He led the Lions to the playoffs three times in his 12 seasons in Detroit (without a postseason victory).

    I wish the Rams had the chance in the old days to trade for Archie Manning. But this is similar to that.

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    He puts Stafford/McVay at #2.

     

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    I keep waiting for the national media to wake up to the fact that there is a very strong argument, Stafford is the best QB in the NFC and maybe the second best in the entire NFL.

    I mean Mahomes is Mahomes.   But after that…I dunno.  Ya got the usual four or five AFC QBs always mentioned.   But Stafford didnt just get a Ring two years ago, he LEAD the Rams to a ring.  Outdueled Brady, and Burrow, and came back against the 49ers.

    I will never understand some of these rankings.

     

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    James Foster@NoFlagsFilm
    Every Big-Time Throw from Matthew Stafford in 2023

    link to vid:
    https://x.com/i/status/1791243162033242270

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    from Execs, coaches, scouts rank NFL’s top 10 QBs for 2024: https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/40284109/top-10-nfl-quarterbacks-execs-scouts-2024-espn-jeremy-fowler-position-rankings

    1, 2, 3, 4 were Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, Jackson.

    5. Matthew Stafford, Los Angeles Rams
    Highest ranking: 3 | Lowest ranking: 10
    Age: 36 | Last year’s ranking: 10

    Some evaluators see Stafford as a bit of a kingmaker.

    “He elevates the play of those around him,” a high-ranking official with an NFL team said. “Puka Nacua is a good player — but he’s not the same guy without Stafford. He helps those guys reach their potential.”

    Stafford’s elite status is accentuated by the most basic terms: Wins and losses.

    2021: Stafford comes to Los Angeles, Rams go 12-5 and win the Super Bowl.

    2022: Stafford misses nine games due to injury, Rams miss the playoffs.

    2023: Stafford misses only two games, Rams are back in the playoffs despite what was supposed to be a mini-rebuild.

    The longer Stafford plays alongside Sean McVay, the more his legacy mushrooms.

    “The arm strength hasn’t left him — he can still make every throw to every part of the field,” an NFC executive said. “He attacks the intermediate windows and the middle of the field with accuracy. Cooper Kupp missed [five games] and he kept them afloat.”

    Durability has been the knock on Stafford, but when he’s healthy and kept upright, he can deliver the football among the best. From Weeks 11-18, as Stafford returned from a right thumb injury, he ranked tied for third in passing touchdowns (16) and eighth in QBR (73) as the Rams won seven of their last eight.

    Stafford is now the second-oldest starting quarterback behind Aaron Rodgers, but he wants to keep playing — hopefully on a reworked contract with Los Angeles to strengthen his guarantees.

    “At this stage, he needs a quality offensive line,” a head scout of an NFL team said. “They weren’t great up front last year and he still produced. They should be better. Stafford can use his legs on occasion but should be playing comfortably in the pocket at this stage.”

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    Warren Sharp@SharpFootball
    highest % of passes thrown under pressure:

    49% – Justin Fields
    48%
    47%
    46%
    45% – Will Levis
    44%
    43% – Zach Wilson
    42% – Bailey Zappe, Russell Wilson
    41% – Geno Smith, Bryce Young
    40% – Jalen Hurts, Brock Purdy
    39% – Ryan Tannehill, Sam Howell
    38% – Joshua Dobbs, Kenny Pickett
    37%
    36% – Lamar Jackson, Jake Browning, Justin Herbert, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Jared Goff
    35% – C.J. Stroud, Gardner Minshew
    34% – Baker Mayfield, Matthew Stafford
    33% – Aidan O’Connell, Kirk Cousins
    32% – Dak Prescott, Desmond Ridder, Joe Flacco
    31% – Mac Jones, Kyler Murray, Derek Carr, Joe Burrow
    30% – Jordan Love, Trevor Lawrence
    29%
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    27%
    26%
    25% – Tua Tagovailoa

    (2023 reg season, min 200 att)

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    Observing Rams QB Matthew Stafford through an entire practice — his first in pads of 2024

    Jourdan Rodrigue

    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5670928/2024/07/31/la-rams-matthew-stafford-quarterback-observations/?source=emp_shared_article

    LOS ANGELES — Look, I know nobody asked for this.

    Yet I always wonder: Do people outside of the football ecosystem know what an NFL quarterback actually does throughout practice? Do they care?

    I guess we’ll find out, as I set out to accomplish both the detailed (and deranged). I lurked around the sidelines throughout Tuesday’s padded practice to focus specifically on Matthew Stafford during his first practice in pads of the 2024 season. The Los Angeles Rams’ star quarterback is entering his 16th year in the league, and recently agreed to an adjusted contract that slightly bumps his pay and guaranteed money over the next calendar year. He’s also coming off perhaps his best season, after lifting a very young roster to 10 wins and a playoff berth in 2023.

    It was a second run-heavy day after a less-than-impressive (and Stafford-less) session from the offense on Monday. But there was still plenty to see:

    Rams observations: QB Matthew Stafford is ‘good,’ held out of first padded practice

    • Stafford walked out to the main practice field about 30 minutes before the 4:40 start time, carrying his own pads, but made a quick stop at the Sirius XM broadcasting table before heading to the far side of the area to get some pre-practice warmups in (I followed around the perimeter and tried to not look like a creep). Some of this involved moving hip-twists and throwing small weighted balls against the side of the weight room. These exercises were popularized for rotational athletes by biomechanics and throwing specialist Tom House, who has worked with Stafford as well as with his offseason private coaches.

    • At 4:31, Stafford walked toward the bleacher side of the field with his pads and red non-contact jersey on (obviously the quarterbacks can’t get hit in practice). The other three — backups Jimmy Garoppolo (the former 49er who seems to take scattered heckling by the Rams fans in the crowd in stride), Stetson Bennett and Dresser Winn — had started warming up with each other. As Stafford began throwing to Garoppolo and veteran running back Boston Scott, a young boy in the bleachers wearing a Cooper Kupp jersey stood up and shouted his name. Stafford waved, and the boy was so overwhelmed he promptly sat back down.

    • After stretching lines, much of the opening third of practice is devoted to individual position drills around the perimeter of the field, and some special teams work in the middle. The quarterbacks, led off by Stafford, began with snap-to-handoff reps with their respective center. Stafford is partnered with second-year player Steve Avila, who is in his first year at center as a pro. Avila and Stafford talked constantly between snaps. Avila is also a left-handed center (Stafford’s second lefty in as many years), which means the ball rotates in the opposite direction on the snap as a right-handed center’s would. Avila’s snap has a little slant to it from his left hand up into Stafford’s right hand.

    • Quarterbacks coach Dave Ragone led the group through rollout drills next, which is exactly what it sounds like as the quarterback collects the snap and rolls to his left or right. With skill players running drills for their respective positions elsewhere, these snaps and throws came from and went to a team of rotating equipment managers — and the crowd let them hear it if they dropped a pass.

    • Footwork drills over step pads were next, on the bleachers sideline. Ragone arranged low, rectangular pads in a ladder formation for the quarterbacks to run through facing the field, then throw on the move. At various points, he pivoted one of the pads to simulate a pocket movement he wanted the quarterback to work around. As they did, Ragone either pointed left or right and they had to flush that way and throw on the move.

    • Next, you guessed it, more drills: In the Rams’ offense, every change in their cadence and count, every step in their drop and how long they hold the ball are paired with different route combinations. So … this was what they practiced. If I told you any more, I would get a dart to the neck by some shadowy figure in a royal blue T-shirt while shopping at the local Vons.

    • Would you believe more drills came next? Ragone simulated pressure against the quarterbacks as Stafford and the rest of the group had to hop-throw over his outstretched arm.

    • Almost there … a drill that involved weaving through a line of hit dummies came next, and again throwing while on the move.

    • Finally, the receivers arrived! Stafford always begins throw-and-catch reps (“individual” drills or “individuals”) with veteran receiver Cooper Kupp. The order the receivers line up matters, because generally in training camp two quarterbacks throw at once (the starter and the backup, then the No. 3 and No. 4). Observers can get a genuine feel for the first- and second-team players (and who might be cracking into a higher level) by watching these. Stafford threw to Kupp, Puka Nacua and Demarcus Robinson in sequence. All players go through a series of short, mid-range and longer routes through this period.

    • The offense next broke into “11-on-0” formation with a full field, with the defense finishing up individuals on the converted softball field the Rams are using as a secondary space. I checked my watch and it was 5:10 p.m., and I thought, do you mean to tell me that all of those drills only took 30 minutes? I questioned my life choices. The 11-on-0 period basically works like an elevated walk-through or installation session before the defense jogged out to the field for 11-on-11 (“team”) drills. The fun part of this (besides the fact that everything about football is fun) was watching head coach Sean McVay and assistants Mike LaFleur, Ryan Wendell, Zak Kromer and Nick Caley act as defensive players during the reps.

    • Guess what? More drills. This time, Stafford led the quarterbacks and running backs through the same “hop throw” sequence as earlier in the day, but dumped the ball off to the running backs instead of the equipment managers. These plays simulate checkdowns or outlet balls under pressure or if the quarterback baits a blitzing defender.

    • You definitely need to know this point as hyped-up clips of camp circulate on social media: The Rams organize team drills so that the first-team offense goes against the second-team defense, and vice versa through a large part of the practice. There are key ultra-competitive periods where first-team goes against first-team, that are designed to often include down-and-distance parameters or are in the red zone. Tuesday, the Rams opened with “2s” (offense) against “1s” (defense). Some of the idea behind this is to get starters and depth competitive reps while simultaneously getting the “1s” better looks to run/install certain concepts.

    • When Stafford took the field against the 2s defense, he handed off to lead rusher Kyren Williams on an outside run, then hit Robinson on an out-breaking route to the right side, then Kupp in the middle of the field off a motion play.

    • When Garoppolo and the 2s offense retook the field, Stafford went to the side and immediately began talking to assistant coaches (McVay called plays for Garoppolo) and teammates and looked at the play card and the giant video boards replaying the downs on the side of the field.

    • Stafford’s next sequence (against the 2s): Another run play, a dump-off ball to tight end Colby Parkinson on a dead play and then another handoff. Again, Tuesday was a pretty run-heavy day as McVay seemed to want to troubleshoot some of what didn’t quite click Monday.

    • During the first 1s vs. 1s period, Stafford wanted Nacua on a throw but he was nearly intercepted by safety Quentin Lake. He handed off to Williams again, and hit Robinson on a short catch-and-run.

    • After two handoffs on the next 1s vs. 1s series, Stafford threw downfield to Kupp but veteran cornerback Tre’Davious White stretched out to disrupt the pass. Stafford and Nacua connected on a mid-range ball just in time, because rookie defensive tackle Braden Fiske was bearing down on, and into, the pocket.

    • One of Stafford’s starting offensive linemen, left guard Jonah Jackson, left practice with an athletic trainer and did not return. McVay said after practice he “did not know” what had happened; on Monday starting left tackle Alaric Jackson tweaked his ankle and did not practice Tuesday. The Rams spent the offseason bulking up and investing into Stafford’s offensive line. While it’s still the early days of training camp, it’s less than ideal to be without two starters.

    • An exclamation point for Tuesday (besides several run plays on, again, a run-heavy day) came at the end of practice in red zone drills — just not for Stafford and the first-team offense. Lake broke up a would-be touchdown pass Stafford intended for Kupp. The starters and some second-team players were pulled with several minutes left in practice because McVay wanted to get the players who will actually be participating in preseason games some practice reps where they otherwise do not get any work in team periods (including Bennett).

    As the final buzzers sounded for the day, I completely mentally lost the plot and headed to the lectern to ask McVay about injuries — not toward wherever Stafford went next.

    Much like the Rams’ offense in these first couple days of padded practices, you win some and you lose some

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    From https://www.lafbnetwork.com/matthew-stafford-1st-ballot-hall-of-famer/

    Los Angeles Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford is among the most hotly debated players at his position. This summer’s litany of rankings put him as high as 3rd and as low as the mid-teens. While the conversation about his Hall of Fame status is premature, as the top criteria for getting into Canton is to first be retired. But Bill Barnwell of ESPN didn’t let that stop him from speculating Stafford’s future in a gold jacket.

    Barnwell makes several bold predictions to lift Stafford from the mired position he currently resides. He predicts the Rams will make a second Super Bowl in 2025 on the back of Stafford’s best throwing season since 2021.

    “As it stands, even with his Super Bowl win, I’m not sure Matthew Stafford has quite enough on his résumé to ensure a trip to Canton.” Barnwell writes, “Three final years with the Rams would help his case. In my simulations for this piece, I have the Rams coming up a game short of the postseason in 2024, but a retooled Rams team then makes a surprising trip to the Super Bowl in 2025, with Stafford throwing for 4,600 yards and garnering the first serious MVP consideration of his career. Even with the Rams falling short of the Chargers in Santa Clara, Stafford will have done enough to get on the right side of history.

    Perhaps he struggles through an injury-hit final 2026 season and retires, but without any other quarterbacks in line as serious challengers, Stafford would walk in as a first-ballot Hall of Famer.”

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    roberto clemente@rclemente2121
    stafford – 2023 week 12-16

    14 tds, 1 int, 67% completion rate, 114.2 qb rtg

    led rams to an avg of 32 offensive pts per game

    5 consecutive 100+ qb rtg games

    extrapolated over a 17 game season?
    48 tds, 3 int, 4,719 yards

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    from https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2024/8/6/24211596/rams-matthew-stafford-ranking-quarterbacks?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_content=turfshowtimes

    ESPN’s Dan Orlovsky and Mina Kimes were discussing top quarterbacks in the NFC, and Matthew Stafford makes Orlovsky’s list as the number one quarterback. Mina Kimes agreed that Stafford is in fact the best quarterback in the conference as the rest of the list features Jordan Love, Brock Purdy, Kirk Cousins and lastly Jared Goff at five.

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    He does the Rams at about 5:22 in.

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    Matthew Stafford Grades High In QB Expert’s New 7 Traits Rankings

    Dan Orlovsky of ESPN recently ranked NFL quarterbacks by assessing seven different traits; Arm strength, ball placement, mechanics, decision-making, pocket presence, rushing ability, and their second reaction.

    Los Angeles Rams quarterback, Matthew Stafford, unsurprisingly to you and shockingly to outsiders, ranked well inside the top 10 in most of the categories. Here is how Orlovsky ranked Stafford;

    Matthew Stafford’s Trait-Based Rankings

    Arm Strength: 4th

    1. Patrick Mahomes, Chiefs
    2. Josh Allen, Bills
    3. Justin Herbert, Chargers
    4. Matthew Stafford, Rams
    5. Aaron Rodgers, Jets
    6. Will Levis, Titans
    7. Baker Mayfield, Buccaneers
    8. Anthony Richardson, Colts
    9. Dak Prescott, Cowboys
    10. Lamar Jackson, Ravens

    Ball Placement: 4th

    1. Joe Burrow, Bengals
    2. Tua Tagovailoa, Dolphins
    3. Patrick Mahomes, Chiefs
    4. Matthew Stafford, Rams
    5. C.J. Stroud, Texans
    6. Brock Purdy, 49ers
    7. Geno Smith, Seahawks
    8. Dak Prescott, Cowboys
    9. Jared Goff, Lions
    10. Josh Allen, Bills

    Mechanics: 2nd

    1. Joe Burrow, Bengals
    2. Matthew Stafford, Rams
    3. Justin Herbert, Chargers
    4. C.J. Stroud, Texans
    5. Dak Prescott, Cowboys
    6. Jared Goff, Lions
    7. Tua Tagovailoa, Dolphins
    8. Aaron Rodgers, Jets
    9. Brock Purdy, 49ers
    10. Trevor Lawrence, Jaguars

    Decision-making: 2nd

    1. Aaron Rodgers, Jets
    2. Matthew Stafford, Rams
    3. Joe Burrow, Bengals
    4. C.J. Stroud, Texans
    5. Brock Purdy, 49ers
    6. Jordan Love, Packers
    7. Patrick Mahomes, Chiefs
    8. Dak Prescott, Cowboys
    9. Jared Goff, Lions
    10. Kirk Cousins, Falcons

    Pocket Presence: 4th

    Patrick Mahomes, Chiefs
    Joe Burrow, Bengals
    C.J. Stroud, Texans
    Matthew Stafford, Rams
    Lamar Jackson, Ravens
    Brock Purdy, 49ers
    Jordan Love, Packers
    Josh Allen, Bills
    Geno Smith, Seahawks
    Dak Prescott, Cowboys

    Rushing Ability: Unranked

    1. Lamar Jackson, Ravens
    2. Josh Allen, Bills
    3. Anthony Richardson, Colts
    4. Jalen Hurts, Eagles
    5. Justin Fields, Steelers
    6. Patrick Mahomes, Chiefs
    7. Dak Prescott, Cowboys
    8. Joe Burrow, Bengals
    9. Kyler Murray, Cardinals
    10. Trevor Lawrence, Jaguars

    Second Reaction: Unranked

    1. Patrick Mahomes, Chiefs
    2. Josh Allen, Bills
    3. Lamar Jackson, Ravens
    4. Brock Purdy, 49ers
    5. Jordan Love, Packers
    6. Caleb Williams, Bears
    7. Dak Prescott, Cowboys
    8. Jalen Hurts, Eagles
    9. Gardner Minshew, Raiders
    10. Justin Herbert, Chargers

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    Matthew Stafford (QB, Rams) | Top 100 Players of 2024

     

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    from Mike Sando, NFL Quarterback Tiers 2024: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5715508/2024/08/26/nfl-qb-rankings-2024-patrick-mahomes/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=twhq&source=twitterhq

    .QB Tiers ranges

    QB tier ranks, tier 1 to tier 5 with their avg ranges for each tier.

    Tier 1
    A Tier 1 quarterback can carry his team each week. The team wins because of him. He expertly handles pure-passing situations. He has no real holes in his game.
    1

    Patrick Mahomes

    Chiefs
    2024 Tier
    Voting Avg.
    1Retained tier
    1
    2

    Joe Burrow

    Bengals
    2024 Tier
    Voting Avg.
    1Retained tier
    1.1(+0.1)
    3

    Josh Allen

    Bills
    2024 Tier
    Voting Avg.
    1Retained tier
    1.2(+0.1)

    Tier 2

    A Tier 2 quarterback can carry his team sometimes but not as consistently. He can handle pure-passing situations in doses and/or possesses other dimensions that are special enough to elevate him above Tier 3. He has a hole or two in his game.
    4

    Lamar Jackson

    Ravens
    2024 Tier
    Voting Avg.
    2Retained tier
    1.6(-0.4)

    5

    Matthew Stafford

    Rams
    2024 Tier
    Voting Avg.
    2Retained tier
    1.6(-0.7)

     

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