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December 12, 2014 at 1:42 am #13698znModerator
RAMS VS. CARDINALS REPORT CARD – WEEK 15
Jeff Gordon grades the Rams’ performance in their lackluster loss to the Arizona Cardinals.Quarterback: F
Ah, Shaun Hill. He had a long, long night against the constant Arizona pressure. Sacks, passes batted down, bad misses down the field, a futile third-and-goal passing play from the Arizona 1, a “Hail Mary” pass picked off at the end…it was super ugly. He had a chance for last-minute redemption, but he misfired on a third-down pass to the wide-open Stedman Bailey and then had his fourth-down pass batted down. It’s no wonder Jeff Fisher is talking up Sam Bradford’s return.Running Backs: F
Tre Mason spit up the ball in his own zone, giving the Cardinals an opportunity they converted early in the second quarter. Benny Cunningham got stuffed on third and 1 at the Arizona 7 early on, forcing the Rams to settle for a field goal. And the game never got much better for the RBs, who combined for just 44 yards on 16 carries.Wide Receivers: D
Kenny Britt tried to keep the Rams alive, going up to make a sensational late catch despite getting crunched by two Arizona defenders. Stedman Bailey had a 38-yard catch and a 13-yard run on a double-reverse play to spark the offense. But the highlights were few and far between for the wide-outs as the offense suffered a complete meltdown. They had a tough time getting off the line and gaining separation.Tight Ends: D
On one of the few exciting plays of the first half, Cory Harkey got down the field for a 21-yard catch. But Jared Cook caught just three passes on seven targets, earned a late offensive pass interference penalty and tossed in a last-minute false start for good measure. And none of these guys made an appreciable difference blocking in the running game.Offensive Line: F
G Davin Joseph set the tempo for this unit early on by getting blown up on a running play to his side. His missed block cost the Rams 5 yards and started a trend that continued throughout the game. Another botched snap highlighted another tough game for battered C Scott Wells. So for three quarters, the Rams offense went nowhere behind this group.Defensive Line: A
Rookie DT Aaron Donald took Cardinals QB Drew Stanton to Sack City and knocked him out of the game, making the Rams two-for-two in eliminating starting Arizona quarterbacks. The defensive front was disruptive all game, forcing penalties with a strong pass rush and earning lots of stops with run defense. Arizona was able to convert just five of 17 third-down attempts.Linebackers: A
OLB Alec Ogletree was busy again, knocking down a couple of passes and blasting through the line for another tackle for loss. MLB James Laurinaitis did a lot of business around the line of scrimmage as well. The Rams defense threw a lot at the Cardinals and held them to just 274 yards offense, despite getting trapped on the field for more than 35 minutes.Secondary: C
CB Janoris Jenkins was beat deep by Michael Floyd for 49 yards in the second quarter, then nearly atoned with an INT before the half ended. Had he held onto that errant pass, he could have bounced up and jogged for a pick six. Jenkins got flagged for pass interference on Floyd in the third quarter, setting up another Arizona field goal. Jenkins thought he had another pick, but lost it to video review. Jenkins forced a late fumble… but the Rams couldn’t cover it. So it went for the Rams. On the plus side, this group tackled well for most of the game.Special Teams: C-
Well, at least Greg Zuerlein didn’t miss any short field goals this time around. He kicked 24- and 19-yardrs to give the Rams their only points. Punter Johnny Hekker boomed some nice punts, but Arizona’s Ted Ginn Jr. burned the coverage unit with a 42-yard punt return early in the third quarter. That stung.Coaching: D
Defensive coordinator Gregg Williams gets an A for keeping the Cardinals miserable the whole game. Offensive coordinator BrianSchottenheimer gets an F for failing to come up with red zone answers…. Or answers of any kind for much of the game. As for head coach Jeff Fisher, he needed to deliver this home-field win to put this season in a different light. And he failed.December 12, 2014 at 12:11 pm #13722AgamemnonParticipantNFL
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Arians: Rams had been reading their press clippingsBy Gregg Rosenthal
Around The NFL Editor
Published: Dec. 12, 2014 at 01:19 a.m.
Updated: Dec. 12, 2014 at 09:56 a.m.Arizona Cardinals coach Bruce Arians watched his team all but wrap up a playoff spot with a gutsy 12-6 victory in St. Louis on Thursday night. And then he kept taking shots at the Rams.
“I love it when nobody says you have a chance to win. There is an 11-3 team and a team that is always 8-8,” Arians said. “You figure it out.”
This was the 2014 Cardinals season in a nutshell. They lost their starting quarterback Drew Stanton to a knee injury in the second half and found a way to win. Stanton will get an MRI on his injured knee Friday according to NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport, and the Cardinals might be prepared to move forward with Ryan Lindley or Logan Thomas at quarterback.
The Cardinals were without Tyrann Mathieu and countless other injured defenders, but they forced five straight three-and-outs to start the second half. The Rams’ offense had no answer for Arizona’s blitzes.
“Everybody wanted to talk all that stuff about how great their defense is. I think they saw a good defense tonight, it was in red and white,” Arians said before talking about his team’s 143 rushing yards. “We blocked them. I think they had been reading their press clippings way too much.”
Man, we love Arians. We need more Arians and we’ll get him in the playoffs, no matter who is at quarterback.
The latest Around The NFL Podcast previews the Week 15 schedule and recaps the Cardinals’ win. Find more Around The NFL content on NFL NOW.
December 12, 2014 at 12:12 pm #13723AgamemnonParticipantNFL
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Cook: Rams ‘outplayed’ and ‘out-coached’ by CardsBy Kevin Patra
Around the NFL writer
Published: Dec. 12, 2014 at 07:45 a.m.
Updated: Dec. 12, 2014 at 08:28 a.m.Despite copious injuries to their roster, the Arizona Cardinals’ consistent display of great élan and toughness on the gridiron has led them to 11 wins, all but assuring themselves of a playoff berth and a Coach of The Year award for Bruce Arians.
However, it takes two to tango, as they say. On Thursday night, despite playing against a backup’s backup at quarterback, the St. Louis Rams capitulated, ultimately wilting 12-6 to a superior defense.
“We got outplayed, we got out-coached, and we just put a bad display out there,” Jared Cook said per the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.
The tight end declined to elaborate on what he meant by being “out-coached” when asked.
“It’s pretty self-explanatory,” he said. “We got outplayed and out-coached. All we put up was six points and didn’t get in the (end zone) not once tonight. That’s a pretty unsuccessful night if you ask me.”
You’ll get no argument here.
The Shaun Hill-led Rams amassed 280 yards of total offense, 229 yards passing, just 69 rushing yards, a fumble, an interception on the final play and settled for field goals inside the 10-yard line twice. The Rams’ offense failed to get a first down the entire third quarter, going three-and-out five times in the period.
Offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer continually leads unimaginative, unproductive and floundering offenses. Thursday was just the latest example.
The Cardinals’ defense deserves credit, but as Cook said, it was pretty self-explanatory: The Rams’ offense was a hot pile of garbage.
The latest Around The NFL Podcast previews the Week 15 schedule and recaps the Cardinals’ win over the Rams. Find more Around The NFL content on NFL NOW.
December 12, 2014 at 6:50 pm #13751znModeratorArians crowing after Arizona victory over Rams
By Jim Thomas
One week you’re taking a jab at the opposition by sending out a certain group of coin toss captains. The next week, the opposing coach is taking a jab at your defense and your coaching record.
Such is life in the NFL. As former Rams cornerback Cortland Finnegan used to say: “Sometimes you’re the bug, and sometimes you’re the windshield.”
The Rams played the role of “bug” in Thursday’s 12-6 loss to Arizona, and Big Red coach Bruce Arians couldn’t help crowing about the victory afterwards.
“Everybody wanted to say how great their defense is, but I think they saw a good defense tonight and it was in red and white,” Arians told reporters after the game. “I am very proud of our guys.”
The Rams entered the game with one of the hottest defenses in the league, becoming the first NFL team since Dallas in 2009 to register back-to-back shutouts with a 52-0 triumph over Oakland on Nov. 30, followed by a 24-0 victory over Washington on Dec. 7.
Even with Thursday’s loss they have not yielded a touchdown in three games.
But the media attention the St. Louis defense has received lately ruffled some Cardinals’ feathers.
“It fired us up a lot,” said Arizona Pro Bowl cornerback Patrick Peterson. “I mean, we’re the number one team in the NFL and the NFC, and we don’t get nearly as much coverage. It doesn’t matter to us. We just want to keep going out and playing football, keep winning games, and get into the playoffs.”
The fact that Arizona entered the game as an underdog despite sharing the best record in the NFL with Green Bay, New England, and Denver didn’t go over well, either.
“I love it when nobody says that you will have a chance to win,” Arians said. “There is an 11-3 team, and a team that is always 8-8. You figure it out.”
Actually, the Rams (6-Cool must win their final two games to reach .500 this season. But Arians’ remarks obviously were a shot at Fisher, who had five teams finish 8-8 while head coach of the Houston Oilers/Tennessee Titans.
Last Sunday, Fisher upset fans and some media members in Washington and elsewhere when he sent out six Rams players who were acquired via the Robert Griffin III trade in 2012 for the coin toss.
December 12, 2014 at 6:51 pm #13752znModerator
Turning point: Rams fail to finishBy Nick Wagoner
http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/14628/turning-point-rams-fail-to-finish
EARTH CITY, Mo. — A look back at the turning point of the St. Louis Rams’ 12-6 loss to the Arizona Cardinals on Thursday night:
The situation: After five consecutive three-and-outs in the third quarter, the Rams offense was desperately seeking traction in its bid to forge a comeback from a 12-3 deficit. Quarterback Shaun Hill connected with tight end Jared Cook and receiver Stedman Bailey for gains of 15 and 38 yards, respectively and the Rams were finally moving the ball. In fact, they got all the way to Arizona’s 7 where they had a chance to score the game’s first touchdown and put themselves in position to steal the game in the closing moments. This isn’t a total focus on one play so much as a sequence that ultimately might have cost the Rams the game.
As it then stood, the Rams faced first-and-goal at Arizona’s 7 with 7:29 to go and a nine-point deficit.
The play: On first down, the Rams opted to hand it off to running back Tre Mason. In a familiar sight on the day, Mason had nowhere to go as he attempted to power up the middle. He was stopped for no gain. On second down, Hill found Bailey over the middle for a completion. Bailey gave it everything he had to try to get into the end zone but he was stopped a yard short to set up third-and-goal at Arizona’s 1. Now, the Rams have struggled mightily to run the ball on third- and fourth-and-1 this year. The Rams are last in yards per carry in those situations at 1.09 and had been stopped on a run in a similar situation on their first possession. With that in mind, it was pretty clear what they were going to do on third down. Problem was, Arizona knew it, too.
The Rams lined up in a typical goal line power formation with tight ends Lance Kendricks and Jared Cook attached to the line to the right and left, respectively, Cory Harkey offset at fullback and Benny Cunningham in the backfield. At the snap, Hill faked a handoff to Cunningham but Arizona doesn’t bite and all of its defenders stayed home to prevent any of the possible pass-catchers from leaking out into free space. Kendricks never even made it past the line of scrimmage and, as Hill rolled to his right, Cook tried to find space in the back of the end zone but was double-covered. Hill threw the ball out of the end zone.
“The one in particular, third down there late in the game (on the 1-yard line), they did a good job of taking it all away,” Hill said. “They really did. You’ve got to give them credit, too.”
The fallout: There was some discussion about whether Jeff Fisher should have gone for it on fourth-and-1 but considering the Rams’ struggles to convert in those situations and the need to make it a one-possession game, it’s understandable why he took the points. On the other hand, the concern with kicking there was that you were leaving your best chance at a touchdown on the field. Indeed, the Rams didn’t get that close again and ended up losing by six. A touchdown there might have changed things but, as Fisher pointed out, it wasn’t about the fourth-down decision so much as his team’s inability to finish before it that killed their chances.
“We’re down there first down, and down their second down, and down their third down,” Fisher said. “We had opportunities. But if we don’t get points then we’re in trouble. So we needed 10, we got three thinking that we had plenty of time and would have a shot.”
And they did but never one as good as the three that passed them by.
December 12, 2014 at 7:22 pm #13756AgamemnonParticipantNFL
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Cards’ Drew Stanton suffered Grade 2 MCL sprainBy Kevin Patra
Around the NFL writer
Published: Dec. 12, 2014 at 01:08 p.m.
Updated: Dec. 12, 2014 at 06:15 p.m.The Arizona Cardinals got some great news Friday on quarterback Drew Stanton, who left Thursday night’s game with a right knee injury.
NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported Friday evening that the quarterback has a Grade 2 MCL spain and is expected back for the playoffs, per two sources.
It’s a “huge relief,” a source familiar with the MRI results told Rapoport.
Coach Bruce Arians told reporters earlier on Friday that Stanton will not need knee surgery and there is no timetable for the quarterback’s return.
“(Stanton) definitely has a chance to be back this season, we just don’t know when,” Arians added.
That likely means the Cardinals will have to weather the rest of the regular season without their veteran quarterback. Arizona (11-3), barring a tie between the Philadelphia Eagles and Dallas Cowboys on Sunday, clinched a playoff spot with their 12-6 victory over the St. Louis Rams.
Stanton has guided the Cardinals to a 3-2 mark in five games since taking over the starting duties after Carson Palmer’s season ended with a torn ACL.
On Thursday, the Cards turned to former 2012 sixth-round pick Ryan Lindley to close out the win. Depending on how much time Stanton misses, Arians could roll with Lindley or plug in rookie Logan Thomas after prepping the big, young signal-caller during the week.
The latest Around The NFL Podcast previews the Week 15 schedule and recaps the Cardinals’ win over the Rams. Find more Around The NFL content on NFL NOW.
I hope he is OK.
December 12, 2014 at 7:31 pm #13762AgamemnonParticipantNFL
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Cardinals, Packers among teams that can clinch playoff spotNFL.com
Published: Dec. 9, 2014 at 04:42 p.m.
Updated: Dec. 10, 2014 at 09:59 a.m.As the regular season wanes, each week brings with it a fresh opportunity for some teams to clinch playoff spots. Check out every possible scenario for each conference below, and predict the playoffs here:
NFC
CLINCHED: None
ELIMINATED: Giants, Redskins, Bears, Buccaneers
ARIZONA CARDINALS
Arizona clinches a playoff spot:
1. ARI win + DAL/PHI game does not end in a tie
2. ARI win + DET loss + ARI clinches strength of victory tiebreaker over GB
3. ARI win + DET loss + GB win or tie
GREEN BAY PACKERS
Green Bay clinches a playoff spot:
1. GB win + DAL loss + GB clinches strength of victory tiebreaker over DAL
AFC
CLINCHED: None
ELIMINATED: Oakland, Jacksonville, Tennessee, NY Jets
DENVER BRONCOS
Denver clinches AFC West division:
1. DEN win or tie
Denver clinches a first-round bye:
1. DEN win + IND loss + CIN loss + PIT loss or tie
2. DEN win + IND loss + CIN loss + DEN clinches strength of victory tiebreaker over PIT
Denver clinches a playoff spot:
1. MIA loss or tie + HOU loss or tie + CIN loss + PIT loss
2. MIA loss or tie + HOU loss or tie + BAL loss + CLE loss or tie
3. MIA loss or tie + HOU loss or tie + BAL loss + PIT win
NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
New England clinches AFC East division:
1. NE win or tie
New England clinches a first round bye:
1. NE win + IND loss + PIT loss or tie + CIN loss or tie
2. NE win + IND loss + PIT loss or tie + DEN loss
New England clinches a playoff spot:
1. BUF loss or tie + CIN loss + PIT loss + BAL loss + HOU loss or tie
2. BUF loss or tie + CIN loss + PIT loss + KC loss or tie + SD loss
3. BUF loss or tie + HOU loss or tie + KC loss or tie + SD loss + BAL loss
INDIANAPOLIS COLTS
Indianapolis clinches AFC South division:
1. IND win or tie
Arizona still hasn’t clinched a playoff spot.December 12, 2014 at 8:24 pm #13764znModeratorCardinals get to Rams CB Jenkins for big plays
By Jim Thomas
In a game that was tight from start to finish, the Cardinals found success going after Rams cornerback Janoris Jenkins. Both times it was Arizona wide receiver Michael Floyd who got the best of Jenkins on Thursday at the Edward Jones Dome.
Early in the second quarter, Floyd got behind Jenkins down the left sideline for a 49-yard reception from quarterback Drew Stanton. That gave Arizona a first down at the Rams 36, putting them on the fringe of field goal range.
They came up with one first down, on a one-yard gain by tight end/H-back Rob Housler on a third-and-one play from the 26. And that was enough real estate for the first of four field goals by Cardinals rookie Chandler Catanzaro. This one came from 44 yards.
The pass play was the longest completion against the Rams defense since the team’s last prime-time game, an Oct. 13 Monday night contest against San Francisco. In that contest, 49ers wide receiver Brandon Lloyd scored on an 80-yard catch-and-run just before halftime.
Floyd got Jenkins once again for a big play, but not on a reception, in the second half. With Floyd once again running deep down the left sideline, Jenkins was called for pass interference. There was contact near the end of the play and Jenkins had an arm interlocked with Floyd’s arm as the football came down.
The result was a 36-yard gain on third-and-4 from the Arizona 36, giving Arizona a first down at the Rams 28. From there, the Cardinals were able to get a 51-yard field goal from the previously struggling Catanzaro, who had missed four of his previous nine tries before going 4 for 4 Thursday.
Catanzaro’s 51-yarder in the third quarter gave Arizona a 9-3 lead in what became a 12-6 Cardinals victory.
Jenkins almost got a chance for some retribution, but what looked like an interception on the next Arizona possession was overruled by the replay official and changed to an incomplete pass.
“I think it was a good call,” coach Jeff Fisher said. “The ball is loose on the ground. He has to maintain possession throughout.”
Even with the play overturned, the Cardinals still had to punt on the next play, but the Rams lost about 40 yards of field position with the punt and field position was something that was lacking for the Rams most of the night.
REMEMBERING BURWELL
There was a stadium-wide moment of silence in honor of late Post-Dispatch columnist Bryan Burwell just before kickoff, complete with a photo of Burwell on the stadium scoreboards.
There was a framed picture of Burwell at his usual spot on press row at the Edward Jones Dome. About a half-dozen large framed pictures of Burwell were hung around the press box.
Earlier in the day, Fisher and general manager Les Snead took the time to attend a memorial service for Burwell in Ballwin.
SITTING IT OUT
For the second week in a row all seven pregame inactives for the Rams were healthy scratches: DB Lamarcus Joyner, CB Marcus Roberson, TE Justice Cunningham, OG Brandon Washington, TE Alex Bayer, DT Alex Carrington, and DE Ethan Westbrooks.
DE Chris Long (ankle), who was listed as questionable, was active as expected.
RAM-BLINGS
Short but high punts by Arizona’s Drew Butler took the steam out of Tavon Austin and the Rams punt return. After a 143-yard day Sunday against Washington, Austin had minus-2 yards on two returns Thursday. Austin had four fair catches; in addition one Butler punt landed out of bounds and another was downed by the Cardinals.
• Former Rams coach Dick Vermeil was in the house, and was introduced to thunderous applause in the first half. He was part of the NFL Network’s pregame show.
December 13, 2014 at 2:25 am #13773znModeratorFisher, Cook clear air on ‘we got outcoached’ comments
by Jim Thomas
It’s not all that unusual for an NFL coach to say, “I need to coach better” or “we need to coach better” after a tough defeat.
But for a player to say, “We got out-coached”? Well, you don’t hear that too often.
So it fell into the category of the expected when coach Jeff Fisher said Friday that he met with tight end Jared Cook to discuss remarks made after Thursday’s 12-6 loss to the Arizona Cardinals.
“We got outplayed, we got outcoached, and we just put a bad display out there,” a dejected Cook said after the game.
At the time, Cook was surrounded by maybe a dozen reporters at his locker stall, and that comment got everyone’s attention. When asked if he cared to elaborate on the “outcoached” part of his response, Cook replied:
“Not really. It’s pretty self-explanatory. We got outplayed and outcoached. All we put up was six points and didn’t get in the (end zone) not once tonight. That’s a pretty unsuccessful night if you ask me.”
So what was Cook talking about?
“I know exactly what he was talking about,” Fisher said. “We discussed it, and I think if he had to do it all over again, he wouldn’t have gone there from the ‘outcoached’ standpoint.
“It’s not really what he meant as far as our discussion, communication this morning. It was kind of a one-fell-swoop: ‘Hey, we just got beat’ and included it all. He wasn’t being critical of coaching.”
So Fisher didn’t take Cook’s comments personally?
“We discussed it, and we’re fine,” Fisher said.
That wasn’t the only out-of-the-ordinary situation Fisher faced on the topic of postgame comments.
Namely, Arizona coach Bruce Arians took a couple of jabs at Fisher’s won-loss record, as well as the Rams’ defense while basking in the thrill of victory.
“Everybody wanted to say how great their defense is, but I think they saw a good defense tonight, and it was in red and white,” Arians said after the game. “I am very proud of our guys.”
Arians also said: “I love it when nobody says that you will have a chance to win. There is an 11-3 team, and a team that is always 8-8. You figure it out.”
Arizona was the underdog entering the game even though the Cardinals had an 10-3 record at the time, compared to the Rams’ 6-7. As for the 8-8 reference, well, Fisher had five squads finish 8-8 during his long tenure as head coach of the Houston Oilers and Tennessee Titans.
Fisher said he was aware of Arians’ comments.
“When the game was over, I went over and congratulated him on the win,” Fisher said, referring to the customary postgame handshake on the field. “I told him that I hoped his quarterback was going to be OK.”
Drew Stanton suffered a third-quarter knee injury, and his status is uncertain for the remainder of the regular season.
“The last thing I said to him was, ‘Why don’t you go win a couple playoff games for the division? Good luck,’” Fisher said. “That’s all I said to him. I have no comments on his comments.”
Arians’ thoughts notwithstanding, Fisher liked the play of the Rams’ defense Thursday night.
He would’ve liked coordinator Gregg Williams’ unit to have come up with a turnover or two — and it came close on several occasions. And the run defense certainly could’ve been better.
But as Fisher pointed out: “We’ve gone 12 quarters without giving up a touchdown now. In particular, the sudden change after the unfortunate turnover, the defense went out there and held them to 3. That’s the mark of a good defense early in the game.”
Fisher was referring to the lost fumble by running back Tre Mason on the Rams’ second possession of the game. Arizona took over at the Rams’ 27 but managed only a field goal.
The Rams lost the turnover battle 2-0 Thursday night, although the second came on a desperation heave by Shaun Hill that was intercepted by Arizona on the final play of the game.
It marked the first time the Rams were in the minus category in takeaway-giveaway differential in a game since the first Arizona contest Nov. 9. It marked the first time the Rams went without a takeaway in a game since their 28-26 victory over Seattle on Oct. 19 in Game 6.
The Rams had three good-to-excellent chances for a takeaway Thursday, all involving cornerback Janoris Jenkins.
In the second quarter, Jenkins leaped in front of a short sideline pass from Stanton intended for Michael Floyd and had both hands on the ball but couldn’t hang on. That one possibly could have been returned for a touchdown had Jenkins come up with the interception.
On a third-quarter pass thrown over the middle by Stanton replacement Ryan Lindley, Jenkins originally was credited with an interception on a diving play. All turnovers are subject to replay review, and the initial call of interception was changed to incomplete after the review because the ball squirted out.
In the fourth quarter, Jenkins forced a fumble on a 1-yard run by Kerwynn Williams, but Jenkins couldn’t grab the loose football. Cardinals left tackle Jared Veldheer got there first.
“The difference in this game was a play here or there,” Fisher said. “One of those takeaways, or a big pass. … That’s what it came down to.”
December 13, 2014 at 9:03 am #13782wvParticipant…“We got outplayed,
we got outcoached,
and we just put a bad display out there,”
a dejected Cook said after the game…Prettymuch sums it up.
I am very impressed with what
Arizona has done the last two weeks
against KC and the Rams.I dont think they can beat Green Bay,
but i think they can beat any other
team in the NFC.I’m startin to think Arians might
be the Belichick of the NFC.
Its not just the Rams who are
“a quarterback away.”w
vDecember 13, 2014 at 11:38 am #13802ZooeyModeratorI am very impressed with what
Arizona has done the last two weeks
against KC and the Rams.I dont think they can beat Green Bay,
but i think they can beat any other
team in the NFC.I’m startin to think Arians might
be the Belichick of the NFC.
Its not just the Rams who are
“a quarterback away.”w
vYes. And they are missing some key guys to injury. That’s a good team.
December 13, 2014 at 2:09 pm #13806znModeratorRams run game stuck against Arizona
By Nick Wagoner
http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/14639/rams-run-game-stuck-against-arizona
EARTH CITY, Mo. — For most of the season, the St. Louis Rams have struggled to run the ball with any consistency, especially against the better defenses in the league.
But no defense has offered more of a barrier to ground production than the Arizona Cardinals’. That proved true again Thursday night when the Cardinals held St. Louis to 69 yards on 20 carries, an average of just 3.5 yards per attempt. Their running backs had even bigger issues, gaining just 37 yards on 15 carries.
On a night in which the Rams managed little in the way of offense as a whole, the inability to run tipped the first domino.
“They played well up front and we had difficulty getting the run game going,” coach Jeff Fisher said. “Everything we do, most people do, is build it off that run game. Get the run game going then you get your shots, you have your opportunities.”
That never happened against the Cardinals, not that the inability to move it on the ground against the Cardinals is a groundbreaking revelation for the Rams. In two meetings this year, the Rams’ running backs (not including receivers Tavon Austin and Stedman Bailey) are averaging just 48.5 rushing yards per game and 2.9 yards per carry.
Against all other teams, Rams running backs average 92.9 yards and 4.3 yards per carry. Absent a consistent running threat, the Rams’ offense is destined to struggle.
The Rams have lost all four games in which they have less than 90 rushing yards and have scored a combined 33 points in those contests. In their three best rushing performances, they’ve averaged 144.7 yards per game on the ground, won all three and averaged 32.7 points.
It’s part of the simple formula that the Rams hoped to replicate more often this year: Run the ball, stop the run and win the turnover battle. They’ve alternately done each of those three things throughout the season and even done them all at once on occasion. But they haven’t done it enough, especially against tough defenses like Arizona.
“They really had a nice scheme on defense,” running back Tre Mason said. “They played us well today and kept us in check in our run game, guys like [Cardinals DE] Calais Campbell, their front seven, their DBs. They’re pretty good players up front.”
December 13, 2014 at 7:53 pm #13817znModeratorRams failing to gain the tough yards
By Bernie Miklasz
http://www.rams-news.com/under-the-lights-rams-rb-tre-mason-video/
I wanted to follow up on something I wrote in Friday’s column, specifically the Rams’ struggle to gain the tough yards on the ground in short-yardage situations.
Let’s back it up with statistics.
This season when the Rams run the ball on third or fourth down, and they need only 1 or 2 yards to move the chains, they’ve picked up only six first downs in 13 attempts. That success rate (46.2 percent) ranks last in the NFL and is well below the league average of 68.7 percent.
Rams coach Jeff Fisher and offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer came to St. Louis in 2012 with solid reputations for putting together a physical rushing attack. But it isn’t happening this year, something that Fisher freely acknowledged Friday.
“We’ve got to get better at it,” Fisher said. “We need to be able to line up and say, ‘Here we come. This is what we’re running. Stop it.’ We’re not there yet.”
The Rams have picked up the first down via the run only three times in nine chances when faced with a third-and-1 situation. That’s also the league’s worst percentage.
And on third downs with less than 4 yards to go, the Rams rank 28th with a conversion rate of 53.1 percent — run or pass. The league average is just under 60 percent.
The Rams also rank 24th in the NFL in the number of ball-control drives that take at least five minutes off the clock.
If the Rams’ offense can’t dominate the physical part of the game, that’s a problem. Forcefully running the football is supposed to be the primary strength of the Fisher-Schottenheimer offense.
What’s the problem? The Rams need much better run blocking at center and guard. According to the ratings at Pro Football Focus, Rams center Scott Wells ranks 26th in run blocking among the 28 NFL centers who have played at least 50 percent of the snaps. Starting guards Rodger Saffold and Davin Joseph are ranked 44th and 52nd, respectively, in run blocking among the 60 NFL guards who have played a minimum of 50 percent of the snaps. And tight end Lance Kendricks is a below-average run blocker, according to PFF.
And it’s certainly fair to question the design and the strategy that goes into the Rams’ inconsistent running game.
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Rams rookie Aaron Donald continues to be ranked No. 1 among all NFL defensive tackles this season by the analysts at Pro Football Focus. Donald had another excellent performance Thursday against the Cardinals. Wrote Pro Football Focus: “Entering Thursday’s game as our top-graded defensive tackle, Donald extended the gap with one of his best pass rushing games of the season. Working against all three of the Cardinals’ interior offensive linemen, Donald collected four QB pressures … he is showing no signs of hitting the rookie wall.”Rams owner Stan Kroenke is having a rough year with his U.S. sports franchises. As of Friday morning the Rams were 6-8 and headed to their 11th consecutive non-winning season, the NBA Denver Nuggets were off to a 10-12 start that’s put them 11th in the Western Conference standings, and the NHL Colorado Avalanche were 11th in the Western Conference with a 10-13-6 mark. (What is it with the number 11?) The Rams are 29-48-1 since Kroenke took over as the majority owner in 2010; the 29 wins rank tied for 26th in the NFL over that time.
Here’s Hall of Fame running back Marshall Faulk on Rams rookie RB Tre Mason. “I believe that (Mason) has ‘It’ and you need ‘It’ if you’re going to run the ball effectively week in and week out in the NFL,” Faulk said Thursday on the NFL Network. “He has ‘It’ and they need to hang their hat on him.”
Faulk and fellow former Ram Kurt Warner got choked up on the NFL Network set Thursday night after watching a tribute to the late Post-Dispatch sports columnist Bryan Burwell. The piece on Burwell was presented with loving care by St. Louisan Steve Wyche, the NFL Network insider. … On behalf of my Post-Dispatch colleagues, I’d like to thank Blues owner Tom Stillman, Rams GM Les Snead and coach Fisher for attending Burwell’s memorial service Thursday.
What a tremendous gesture of respect by the SEC football coaches, who voted Mizzou’s Gary Pinkel as the conference coach of the year. It just reaffirms the prestige that Pinkel has brought to the MU program. … Former Mizzou defensive end Michael Sam was in Atlanta last Saturday to cheer on the Tigers in their loss to Alabama in the SEC championship game.
ESPN draft analyst Mel Kiper believes former Mizzou receiver Dorial Green-Beckham, a sophomore redshirt at Oklahoma, would have challenged Alabama’s Amari Cooper as the top wideout in the 2015 draft “if not for his significant off-field red flags.” Kiper elaborated: “Even though he was kicked off the team at Missouri, his talent level may be too tantalizing to pass up. There are other good wideouts in this draft, and Green-Beckham could get passed on. But if he comes back (at Oklahoma in 2015), stays out of trouble, and plays well, he’s a first-rounder next year.”
December 16, 2014 at 1:39 am #13952znModeratorRams Can Still Win with Schottenheimer
By Randy Karraker
http://www.101sports.com/2014/12/14/rams-need-can-still-win-schottenheimer/
I received a tweet from a guy wondering what I’ve seen from Rams offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer to make me think the Rams can win with him. I pointed out that, despite losing their top receiver in Brian Quick, their left tackle Jake Long and quarterback Sam Bradford, the Rams were seventeenth in the NFL in points scored.
I asked what, specifically, he wanted to see from an offensive coordinator, he replied that he DIDN’T want to see a pass in an obvious running situation. I wasn’t sure if he was referring to the 3rd and goal from the one yard line against Dallas (a touchdown pass to Lance Kendricks) or a 1st and 10 play against Denver from the Rams 37 (a 63 yard TD to Kenny Britt), but I pointed out this little factoid: over the last three seasons, the highest scoring teams in the NFL have been Denver (1,472 points), New England (1,402), Green Bay (1,273) and Indianapolis (1,155)
Each of those teams has had an offensive coordinator leave for a head coaching job in that time. Mike McCoy left Denver for San Diego, Bill O’Brien left New England for Penn State and then the Texans, Joe Philbin left the Packers for Miami, and Bruce Arians left Indianapolis for Arizona.
Are those teams THAT good at identifying offensive coordinators, or is there something else at work here?
I would suggest that it’s something else.
That something would be franchise quarterbacks Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers and Andrew Luck. Not surprisingly, those four are among the touchdown pass leaders in the NFL over that period…with Manning throwing 128, Rodgers 91 (despite missing seven games in 2013), Brady 89 and Luck 82.
So I must ask the question; does the coordinator make the offense, or does the quarterback? When Rodgers was out for seven games in Green Bay last year, they averaged 21.7 points per game. When he played, they averaged 29.4. Same offensive coordinator. Same play caller. Same supporting cast. Different results. Manning’s injury in Indianapolis turned a team that scored between 377 and 522 points for eight straight years into a 243 point offense. Same offensive staff, but a different quarterback, and a much worse offense.
Not that there’s no reason to question Schottenheimer. We all love to question and criticize play calling. But the best coordinators, the guys who wind up getting head coaching jobs, are inevitably the guys who have the best quarterbacks to work with.
Another tweet I received after the 12-6 loss to Arizona said “I guess we can stop talking about how the Rams are ‘close.’ Tonight showed pretender vs contender.” I would suggest that wins over the Seahawks, Broncos and 49ers at San Francisco provide evidence that the Rams are close to being competitive for a playoff spot. A bad team, like the Rams teams of 2008, 2009 and 2011 would have had no chance against those teams. In fact, that team lost by an average of 13.4 points per game. This Rams team has been outscored by a TOTAL of six points all season. As good fans know, a team can be close to being good but not be in the playoffs. That doesn’t make them bad. The Rams right now define mediocre. They’re likely to win seven games for a third straight year.
However, if you would have told me before that monstrous nine game stretch of Dallas, Philadelphia, San Francisco (twice), Seattle, Kansas City, Arizona, Denver and San Diego that they’d go 3-6 without their three highest paid players, I would have taken it. Especially after an 0-3 start to that stretch.
At the end of the day, I don’t judge teams on one game. I’m going to take a longer view. And in MY view, the Rams are a much better team than the one that allowed either 34 or 31 points six times in their first nine games. In fact, since the last time the Rams allowed 31 or 34 (34 against Arizona in game nine), they’ve allowed 46 points in five games. So I see progress. The Rams ARE close. They need a quarterback and they need to add muscle and toughness on the offensive line. And like every other team, they need to add young depth throughout the roster, especially at linebacker and cornerback. But to say the Rams aren’t close because of the loss to Arizona is ridiculous.
I love the reactionary passion after wins or losses, but in football it’s important to get away from emotion and look at reality.
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