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June 4, 2021 at 12:14 am #130287znModerator
from PFF, Ranking all 32 NFL receiving corps ahead of the 2021 season: https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-ranking-all-nfl-receiving-corps-ahead-of-the-2021-season
8. LOS ANGELES RAMS
Robert Woods and Cooper Kupp lead this receiving corps as two of the best route-runners in the league. Woods has been open on 62.1% of his targets against single coverage over the last three years, 11th-best in the NFL, and he’s only dropped 34 of his 596 catchable passes in his career. Kupp has been open on 59.5% of his single-coverage targets, 21st in the league since 2018, and he’s posted a receiving grade of 76.0 or better in each of his four years.
Van Jefferson earned a solid 68.1 grade as a rookie and should be more of a vertical threat moving forward. The Rams added the ultimate vertical threat in DeSean Jackson, though he’s only been on the field for 245 snaps over the last two years. When healthy, he’s an all-time great deep threat, and he could add much-needed juice on the outside. At worst, Jackson is a mentor for second-rounder Tutu Atwell, who is similarly diminutive and speedy. Atwell will be a weapon in the jet sweep game while being able to line up all over the formation.
Tight ends Tyler Higbee and Gerald Everett each saw 59 targets a year ago, but with Everett moving on, Higbee will take on a bigger workload. He’s graded “in the green” in each of the last three years, including an impressive 86.1 effort in 2019. Johnny Mundt will compete for backup snaps with Brycen Hopkins. Mundt has played just 391 career snaps since 2017, while Hopkins didn’t play offensive last year as a rookie, but he came out of the 2020 draft as one of the better vertical threats at tight end.
The Rams have one of the deepest receiving units in the league, and they have even more big-play ability with the additions of Jackson and Atwell.
June 4, 2021 at 12:19 am #130288znModeratorEnh. I miss the days when it was Brandon Gibson, Austin Pettis, Greg Salas, Brandon Lloyd, Danario Alexander, and Mike Sims-Walker.
Though admittedly Lloyd screwed up the picture here by catching 51 passes. Granted though it was on 117 targets, so he didn’t completely screw up the picture.
June 10, 2021 at 1:20 am #130382znModeratorMatthew Stafford can’t pass on complimenting Rams’ versatile receiving corps
Gary Klein
https://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/story/2021-06-09/matthew-stafford-receivers-rams
He broadened his knowledge of coach Sean McVay’s offense. Timing with receivers and other skill players began to come together. Teammates now have a feel for their new leader.
But Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford said Wednesday that when he arrived in Southern California for offseason workouts — after 12 seasons with the Detroit Lions — he did so without specific expectations about how the first phase of his transition would unfold.
“I just showed up here, tried to be myself every single day, know I was going to make mistakes, try to get better along the way,” Stafford told reporters after the team’s penultimate minicamp workout, “and then I’ll try to do that for as long as I’m in this uniform.”
Stafford, acquired in a January trade for quarterback Jared Goff and two first-round draft picks, will practice in front of Rams fans Thursday at SoFi Stadium. Stafford, 33, will use the final workout to familiarize himself with sight lines, the scoreboard and play clocks in the $5-billion Inglewood stadium.
“All that kind of stuff you’ve got to get used to at a home stadium,” he said during a videoconference.
After Thursday’s workout, the Rams will break for summer and reconvene for training camp in late July. Stafford said he would continue to work with teammates during player-organized throwing sessions.
Trying to get in sync as much as we possibly can be heading into training camp,” Stafford said. “Trying to really just dive in and make sure that when we come back, I’m ready to lead this thing and go.”
Receivers Robert Woods, Cooper Kupp, DeSean Jackson, Van Jefferson and rookie Tutu Atwell will be among Stafford’s principal targets in an offense that is expected to approach or surpass production that characterized the 2017 and 2018 seasons.
After two weeks of organized-team activities and the minicamp, Stafford was impressed.
“We’ve got a lot of talented guys in that group,” he said. “Some veteran guys that know what they’re doing and some young guys that are learning quickly as well.”
Woods, a ninth-year pro, is a “proven player,” Stafford said.
“He does a great job of slash running after he catches the football,” Stafford said, “He’s really smooth in and out of his breaks.”
Kupp, entering his fifth NFL season, caught Stafford’s attention with his understanding of defenses.
“It’s something, as a quarterback, that is a lot of fun to have, a guy out there you know is thinking and seeing the game the same way that you are,” Stafford said.
Jackson, 34, shows no sign of slowing down after 13 seasons, the last two in Philadelphia marred by injuries.
“He still has the long speed that I see,” Stafford said. “He’s running great.”
Stafford said Jefferson, a second-year pro, has size to create mismatches and speed to separate from defenders. The speedy Atwell catches the ball away from his body well.
Jefferson, 24, first met Stafford in 2009. Stafford was selected No. 1 overall in the draft by the Lions, who employed his father, Shawn Jefferson, as a receivers coach.
“He remembered me from being a little kid,” Jefferson said, adding that it was “ironic” their paths crossed again.
Jefferson said Stafford and the receivers were getting more comfortable.
Rams defensive players also have welcomed the opportunity to be tested by Stafford.
“Very experienced, very seasoned, so he knows how to manipulate safeties’ eyes — all that stuff,” third-year safety Taylor Rapp said, adding that Rams defensive backs are “always trying to compete against the best.
“To be able compete against him in practice, and all of training camp, that’s something that we’re looking forward to.”
When training camp opens at UC Irvine, Stafford will begin preparing for a season that marks a new beginning. Stafford led the Lions to the playoffs three times but never won a postseason game.
Now he will lead a team that is expected to contend for a berth in the Super Bowl, which will be played at SoFi Stadium.
Stafford is looking forward to the next phase of his career.
“I know I have a big challenge in front of me, to make sure that I’m leading this team as best as I possibly can,” he said. “All they want from me is to play at a high level and do things the right way, so that’s what I’m going to try and do.”
June 10, 2021 at 12:32 pm #130387InvaderRamModeratori still like higbee. i thought he’d have a breakout season last year. even if he doesn’t have one this year he should still be solid.
but i also like hopkins and i’m intrigued by harris. he’s looked good in the few clips i’ve seen of him in minicamp.
June 10, 2021 at 12:44 pm #130388znModeratorDeSean Jackson receives strong signals about Rams’ potential
* https://www.ocregister.com/2021/06/08/desean-jackson-receives-strong-signals-about-rams-potential/
THOUSAND OAKS — In 13 NFL seasons, DeSean Jackson has caught passes for very good teams and very bad teams.
Knowing what makes certain teams championship contenders, he already sees the 2021 Rams in that class.
“First day I came here, man, I could see there was something different about this team. The camaraderie, the mentality, you could tell it’s something special,” Jackson, the L.A. native and former Long Beach Poly star who signed with the Rams in March, said Tuesday after the first practice of a three-day minicamp.
“I’ve been on teams where certain individuals had contract issues or personal issues or had a situation with the GM or (another) player. When you come here, you don’t feel none of that. You feel like everybody’s on the same page, everybody has one common goal. All the personal stuff, the outside world, none of that matters.”
Jackson sees it starting at the top with the coach and star players.
“(It’s) Sean McVay setting the tone, and having guys like Jalen Ramsey, Aaron Donald, Matthew Stafford, Robert Woods, Coop (Cooper Kupp), I could go on and on. The energy is great here,” Jackson said of his head coach and new teammates.
He compared these Rams to the team he joined as a second-round draft pick from Cal. Those were the 2008 Eagles coached by Andy Reid and led by Donovan McNabb, Brian Westbrook and Brian Dawkins. They went to the NFC championship game, only to be upset by Arizona.
“They had a demeanor,” Jackson said of the veterans. “Those guys held accountability for every player from top to bottom.”
One test of the all-for-one culture Jackson sees could come in the wide receiver group, which has more hands competing for touches since Jackson, 34, and second-round draft pick Tutu Atwell joined Kupp, Woods and Van Jefferson. (Josh Reynolds departed.)
Jackson calls it a “scary group,” and is counting on the maturity of the receivers to embrace their roles as McVay and quarterback Matthew Stafford decide who gets the ball.
“In the NFL, there’s always other great guys. It’s not me, me, me,” Jackson said. “As you get older, you understand the Patriots of the world, the Steelers. They have a system, and once you understand that system, it’s kind of interchangeable. Every guy can be the next man up.”
Jackson’s comfort with the Rams is enhanced by his familiarity with the playbook, since McVay was Washington’s offensive coordinator when Jackson was there.
Said McVay of Jackson: “He’s always been a really smart player. And fortunately, because of our pre-existing relationship, if I’ve changed the vernacular or verbiage on some things, (I can) say, ‘Hey, what you knew as ‘NASCAR’ is now ‘spear.’”
Said Jackson of McVay: “The only thing I can say has changed about him is he’s got a lot more smarter. And he already was smart.”
Jackson hopes the team spirit he has seen so far continues from June to January.
“It’s all pieces to the puzzle,” he said, “and if everybody plays their part, you have something special.”
June 10, 2021 at 1:11 pm #130389znModeratorComparing Matthew Stafford’s weapons with Rams to the 2020 Lions
Detroit’s WRs dropped 6% of their attempts last season, as compared to 3.8% for the Rams receivers — and they should only get better from there https://t.co/9B87KQ3mfw
— TurfShowTimes (@TurfShowTimes) June 10, 2021
June 11, 2021 at 6:43 am #130415znModeratorBengals coach Zac Taylor spent two years with the Los Angeles Rams on Sean McVay’s staff in 2017 and 2018, first as an assistant wide receivers coach and then as the quarterbacks coach. He worked closely with Cooper Kupp during his time in L.A. and now he’ll get to coach Ja’Marr Chase, the star rookie out of LSU who was the first receiver drafted this year.
[Taylor said Chase is] … “Similar to Cooper Kupp in the sense that he’s got unbelievable body control. He’s running full speed but when he judges where the ball is at, he can shut his body down and have that great control to have that great run after the catch to maximize it. Oh yeah, and is hard to bring down on first contact just like Cooper. He usually makes that first guy miss or pulls through the tackle and then he’s got the top-end speed.”
June 23, 2021 at 1:45 pm #130590znModeratorHow has Rams QB Matthew Stafford established timing, rapport with top WRs in Sean McVay’s offense?
Jourdan Rodrigue
THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. — For new Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford, timing has lately been everything.
Seizing upon opportune timing is a big part of the reason Stafford is in Los Angeles in the first place, after 12 years in Detroit — he requested a trade around the same time the Rams were deeply assessing their options at quarterback, then he and Rams coach Sean McVay happened to be at the same resort in Cabo, and the rest is history.
Now, Stafford’s timing will need to apply to how he runs the offense — especially one that depends on the quarterback and receivers falling into total rhythm with each other before, during and after every snap.
“The only way a guy in my position can play ‘on time’ and ‘in rhythm’ is understanding exactly what’s going on around him at all times and feeling comfortable with it,” Stafford said. “To get that, in my opinion, you can definitely look at it on a screen, look at it on a piece of paper and take your notes, but until you get out there and watch Cooper Kupp run this route or Robert Woods run that route, that’s something that takes time and in-person repetition.”
The details that need to be accounted for within a single passing play — between just the quarterback and the receiver — can feel endless, but must become automatic. Further, all of the little things the quarterback does between the snap and the moment the ball leaves his hand happen essentially as the receiver’s back is toward him.
“Within a drop, a quarterback has a lot of tools in terms of his eyes, his shoulders — where he’s trying to move guys,” Kupp said. “I think that’s the big thing, is understanding on plays: You might have two windows, you have the tight first window or you can hang on for the second window. And you have the conversation, ‘Would you rather hold this hook player away and try to zip this into the first window — or are you thinking you’re going to take him to me and hit this thing behind him?’
“So it’s kind of understanding just things like that. When am I really trying to get my eyes down? When can I anticipate the ball to get out versus certain looks? How (is he) manipulating coverages and what he feels comfortable with? Even within his drops, just seeing the nuance of using his shoulders and eyes to move guys and anticipate throws — that helps us out at receiver because now we’re really able to anticipate when that ball is coming and also get into those windows — or (move with tempo) into the windows he’s really trying to get to.”
Stafford and the Rams receivers were quite apparently stacking the building blocks of this process throughout the spring — not only increasing the amount of processing required between the two groups but also shifting at times from an emphasis on the live reps to focus on the communication between plays and how the various elements of the passing game complement each other when the rhythm is correct.
For example, veteran receivers Woods and Kupp were present for the voluntary OTAs sessions in May — which was notable because it was the first opportunity for Stafford to work in-depth with teammates after offseason thumb surgery and his cross-country move with his family. These practices were half-speed and could be stopped halfway through a play so that McVay and Stafford, and Stafford and his receivers and offensive line, could talk through the concepts. Though the sessions were not mandatory and many players trickled in and out through the two-week period, Kupp was active each day in order to build the necessary on-field rapport with Stafford, while Woods added that he often sat next to Stafford during film sessions to whisper live notes about certain throws as they watched. Rotating through the practices and reps also meant that when they weren’t working into the live action, receivers were able to watch Stafford’s movements more closely.
“Invaluable reps, really,” Kupp said. “Obviously as an offense, having a new signal caller out there — just being able to see the field with him, trying to understand the things that he’s seeing and how he’s analyzing things on the go. … Everyone has a different nuance to how (he) wants to play certain concepts, the throws that (he) leans on, the throws (he) wants to make, things you want to see and how you want to dictate certain things. (We were) able to have great conversations, (able) to see the field through his lens and understand what Matthew wants us to do at receiver and how he wants us to run our routes, the holes he wants us to find.”
In some seven-on-sevens and 11-on-11s, Stafford didn’t throw the ball as the route concepts unfolded before him and he mentally worked through his progressions and then workshopped the scenarios with Kupp, Woods, Desean Jackson, Van Jefferson and others. Where do his feet need to be in his dropback at a specific point in the receiver’s route? How about when they turn to present a target? What about boot action, play-action, the motions that McVay uses so often and more — how does the quarterback match his timing and movement with the receivers’ own as they progress through their route?
While the live reps are certainly the most valuable tool for both a quarterback and a receiver during this process, the required level of collaboration, communication and sharing of techniques and ideas can’t be understated.
“We’re collaborating to put the most efficient offense on the field,” Kupp said. “Whatever it takes for me, however he wants (us) to run routes … however he wants to throw the ball and manipulate coverage, whatever it’s going to look like to be the best offense we can possibly be when we step onto the field, that’s what we want to do. … It’s collaboration and being able to make sure that we’re on the same page with each other, that we’re working in tandem with each other — and that I’m doing the things that I need to do so that he’s seeing the field exactly how I’m seeing it, and we’re in those spots together.”
From Stafford’s lens, figuring out receivers’ preferences within their route tree is a part of that collaboration. Kupp, for example, has several “choice” routes built into his tree, so his decision-making in tandem with Stafford on those particular plays becomes not only crucial to Kupp’s own route run but also to the various leverage possibilities and assignments for the rest of the receivers in turn.
“We’re just trying to have dialogue,” Stafford said. “As we’re watching other guys (take second- and third-team reps), (we talk) about what we might have done in that situation — what he would expect from me, what I would expect from him. Just constantly trying to make sure that we’re on the same page and able to execute.”
Tiny details and tweaks made for the comfort of both the receiver and quarterback as they establish a feel for one another can turn into major moments in live action. At one point in the spring, Woods said Stafford approached him because he was feeling a little off about the steps in a passing concept and felt as if he might look to throw a little bit earlier than what they had practiced. Woods told him that he could adjust accordingly and would get his eyes back around for the ball without a problem. Conversely, throughout the offseason, Woods would record pieces of his own film study and send little cut-ups to Stafford that communicated Woods’ preferred catch window in which to specifically maximize yards after the catch.
“(Stafford’s) intention to listen to his receivers, wanting to still get better at his level and at his year is super big,” Woods said. “I think, from a receiver standpoint, your quarterback asking you ‘What do you want from this?’ or ‘What do you see in this route’ is super big. He’s come into our offense with some receivers who have made plays — but (is) really just trying to make us feel comfortable.”
In June, as the Rams held their minicamp — the last series of practices before breaking for the summer — Kupp and Woods especially orbited around Stafford at alternating times and in between his reps in seven-on-seven and 11-on-11 drills, play cards in their hands.
They were not practicing live but were in near-constant communication with Stafford — troubleshooting plays and concepts, pointing out different preferences and alignments and getting feedback from the quarterback on what he felt and saw as the plays unfolded.
“The dialogue amongst one another — there’s so many things that go on in the absence of coaches and in between those white lines that is so beneficial,” McVay said. “The best teams that I’ve been a part of is where the players lead it. That’s where you have a chance to be great. We’ve got the guys in this building to be able to do those things. … I think Matthew’s natural ability to communicate with everybody … that’s a valuable thing. That’s sometimes where (my) best is to give a little bit of guidelines and then get the hell out of their way.”
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