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November 17, 2014 at 3:11 pm #12166joemadParticipant
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Antonio Gates gave some indication of what may be hurting Philip Rivers and slowing the San Diego Chargers offense last weekend before backing away from his comments.
Although questions remain about Rivers’ health, coach Mike McCoy insists he’ll be ready to go Sunday when the Chargers look to build on their first win in more than a month as they host the sack-happy St. Louis Rams.
San Diego (6-4) was rolling offensively when it averaged 29.4 points and 395.8 total yards during a five-game winning streak. The Chargers, though, have scuffled of late with 13.5 points and 258.8 yards per game over their last four.
Rivers has slumped to an average of 197.0 yards in those contests with six touchdowns and six interceptions. He had put up 303.6 yards per game with 14 scores and one pick during the win streak.
Rivers finished with less than 200 yards passing for the second straight game last Sunday in a 13-6 home victory over winless Oakland that snapped a three-game skid.
Following the contest in which Rivers was sacked twice and took two other hard hits, Gates let it slip that the five-time Pro Bowler has been trying to play through a serious injury.
“He’s been taking shots all year,” he said. “For those who don’t know, he’s been dealing with a rib injury, a very severe rib injury. So he’s been toughing it out these last three, four weeks.”
That certainly didn’t sit well with McCoy, who does what he can to keep injury information a secret. Gates backtracked earlier this week, saying there was “a misunderstanding of what I was trying to say about him.”
“I was more so pertaining to just his toughness, mentally and physically, what he’s been able to play through and how he’s always been able to lead this team,” Gates explained.
McCoy said Rivers, who has played in all 16 games every year since 2005, will be under center again Sunday when the Chargers go after their eighth win in nine home games.
“He has not missed a snap in practice and he’s not been getting treated for a rib injury,” said McCoy, whose squad sits one game back of AFC West co-leaders Denver and Kansas City.
The Chargers, however, may need to put an emphasis on protecting Rivers against the Rams, whose 18 sacks since Week 7 are the second-most in the NFL. Star defensive end Robert Quinn is tied for the league lead with six over that span.
St. Louis had two sacks and two interceptions of Denver’s Peyton Manning in last Sunday’s stunning 22-7 home win. The Rams held the Broncos to their lowest-scoring total since Manning took over at quarterback to start the 2012 season and snapped his streak of 15 straight games with multiple touchdown passes.
Now the Rams (4-6) will try to claim back-to-back wins for the first time this season after they’ve followed recent victories over Seattle and San Francisco with blowout losses at Kansas City and Arizona.
“We’re building this team and we’re on the right track and we’re moving in the right direction,” coach Jeff Fisher said. “We’ve had some disappointing losses, some close losses and some things have happened but to be able to line up and play against these teams like we did, I think we’ve earned a little respect.”
Quarterback Shaun Hill made a positive impact in his first start since the opener, going 20 of 29 for 220 yards with one score. More importantly, he presided over the team’s first turnover-free day since Week 7.
Kenny Britt keyed the passing game with four catches for a season-high 128 yards and a touchdown, while rookie Tre Mason provided a lift in the rushing attack after finishing with a season-high 113 yards on 29 carries.
“(Hill) throwing well helped the run game and us running well helped him throw,” Mason said. “It all plays together.”
The Chargers also got a boost from the ground game last week with the return of Ryan Mathews, who believes his knee isn’t a concern after he ran for 70 yards on 16 carries in his first action since Week 2 because of a MCL sprain.
San Diego returned to its early season form defensively by limiting the Raiders to two field goals and 71 yards on the ground after it had given up 30.8 points and 134.8 rushing yards per game over its previous four.
The Chargers have dropped six of 10 all-time matchups, most recently losing 20-17 at St. Louis in 2010 as Rivers was sacked a career-high seven times.
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When the Rams held Peyton Manning and the Broncos to seven points Sunday, shock waves rippled within the national football media.
Chargers backup quarterback and ex-Ram Kellen Clemens, however, had lauded the Rams three days earlier.
“They certainly are better than their record,” said Clemens, who started nine games for St. Louis last year.
The Rams (4-6) will be at Qualcomm Stadium on Sunday as the Chargers (6-4) try to keep pace in the AFC’s crowded playoff race.Calling to mind the Chargers’ Week 2 opponent, the Rams lean on a speedy “4-3” defense.
“They remind me a lot of Seattle – how they play relentlessly to the football, and how they disrupt timing,” said the Chargers’ Antonio Gates. “You’ve got to account for every single player on that defense.”
The Rams are last in the rugged NFC West and a four-point underdog this week; however, when they click, they look elite. They’re 3-0 against semifinalists from last winter’s Super Bowl tournament. At Arizona two games ago, they led late, 14-10, before the Cardinals (9-1) rallied to win.
Against Denver, which managed just 56 rushing yards on 32 carries behind a shuffled line, Rams defenders often got the jump and dealt numerous punishing hits. They flew around their noisy dome on ultra-fast FieldTurf that accentuates speed and the home team’s pass rush. Though Manning threw for 341 yards, Denver’s point total was it lowest since Manning arrived in 2012.
“They’ve got some really good pass-rushers, they’ve got some speed in the secondary,” Gates said. “The linebackers are very savvy and smart. We’ve definitely got to be on top of our game.”
Inconsistency is the Rams’ bugaboo. Turnover binges have plagued the offense, which is 27 in scoring and 29th in yards. The defense is 25th in points and 17th in yards.
Playmakers
End Robert Quinn, 6-foot-4 and 270 pounds, attacks from a quarterback’s blind side. He led the NFL in sacks last year with 19 and was second among “4-3” defenders in QB hurries with 51. This year, he has six sacks and 21 hurries.
Clemens said Quinn combines a “relentless ferocity to hit the quarterback” with rare physical gifts. “He’s a phenomenal athlete. I mean, scary,” Clemens said.
End Chris Long, a complete defender who had 46 hurries last year, was lost to an ankle injury in Game 1. He returned to practice last week but wasn’t activated for Denver.Rookie DT Aaron Donald (6-1, 285; first round, Pitt) is already a Pro Bowl contender. Donald, powerful, explosive and sound technically, has 14 hurries and four sacks.
Shaun Hill began the season as the replacement to Bradford, who tore an ACL in the preseason. Hill, 34, injured a thigh in the Game 1 loss to the Vikings and missed the next two games. Undrafted Austin Davis ran with the job, but after his mistakes mounted, Hill returned as the starter last week. Against Denver, he was 20 for 29 for 209 yards with a 102.7 passer rating. Playing for dome-dwellers the last five years suited Hill’s subpar arm strength. His speed is below-average.
A downfield threat, TE Jared Cook leads the team in catches (34). Cook functions under playcaller Brian Schottenheimer in ways similar to how Gates did for the Chargers when Schottenheimer coached the team’s quarterbacks and Marty Schottenheimer, his father, was head coach.
Powerful WR Kenny Britt gains 17.6 yards per catch. TE Lance Kendricks is the team leader in TD catches with four. Rookie and Auburn alum Tre Mason (5-8 1/2, 206) set season marks against Denver in carries (29) and yards (113).T.J. McDonald is fourth among NFL safeties in tackles; as for USC, he’s an enforcer but also an erratic pass defender.
Middle LB James Laurinaitis, who said the Rams should’ve shut out the Broncos, is the defense’s quarterback. He implements for Gregg Williams, one of the NFL’s most blitz-savvy coordinators. Under Williams, whose Titans defense held the Chargers to 17 points last year in Week 3, the defense has grown increasingly sophisticated.
By Cedric Williams
Just as he had following some of his team’s tough losses this season, Rams head coach Jeff Fisher said on Monday that he only allows his players to dwell on (or enjoy) the previous day’s game for 24 hours before moving on to the next week’s matchup.
For the Rams, that means the excitement of Sunday’s stunning 22-7 victory over Peyton Manning and the Denver Broncos could only last through Sunday night and for the first part of Monday afternoon. By the time Monday evening rolled around though, Fisher wanted his guys thinking about this coming Sunday’s matchup with the San Diego Chargers.
“We’re moving on,” Fisher said during his weekly Monday press conference, which coincidentally began early in the evening at the Rams Park Training Facility in Earth City. “The staff’s already moving on to San Diego…Big-picture wise I think we’re building it right. We’re building to contend and compete in the division. I think young teams need to learn how to match-up against those unfamiliar opponents, which we did yesterday. Now we have to do that again.”
The Chargers also won on Sunday, 13-6, over the Oakland Raiders to snap a three-game losing streak and improve their record to 6-4.
San Diego on Offense
For the first six weeks of the season, the Chargers were one of the top teams in the league. They won five of their first six and were averaging more than 27 points a game.
But then, in key matchups against Kansas City, Denver, and Miami — all teams that would be in the AFC playoffs if they began this week — San Diego was held to less than 14 points a game, and worst of all, got flat-out embarrassed in a 37-0 loss to the Dolphins back on November 2.
Overall, the Chargers, who stand just outside the AFC playoff threshold by way of that loss to Miami, are ranked 22nd in total offense at 330.4 yards a game.
Led by quarterback Philip Rivers, the San Diego passing game has been pretty good ( 13th overall at 244.8 yards a game).
For the season, Rivers’ 2,544 passing yards is 10th-best in the NFL, and his 21 touchdown passes is tied for sixth-best in the league.
The leading receivers for the Chargers this year have been WR Malcolm Floyd (32 catches, 574 yards, four touchdowns); WR Keenan Allen (55 catches, 537 yards, one touchdown); and TE Antonio Gates (38 catches, 477 yards, nine touchdowns).
The Charger ground game, on the other hand, has been dismal, ranking 29th out of 32 teams with just 85.6 yards a game.
Part of the reason for San Diego’s troubles in the run game has been because lead back Ryan Mathews has been out since Week 2 with a knee injury.
The fifth-year player out of Fresno State made his return last week for the Chargers and had 70 yards on 16 carries.
Rookie Branden Oliver got most of the carries while Mathews was out, and leads the team with 407 yards this season.
San Diego on Defense
The Chargers are ranked ninth in total defense this season, with a unit that ranks sixth in pass yards allowed (222.4 yards a game) and is 12th-best against the run (109.0 yards a game).
Pro Bowl free safety Eric Weddle has once again emerged as the leader on defense for San Diego. The eighth-year man out of Utah has a team-leading 68 tackles and seven passes defensed, with an interception and a forced fumble.
San Diego’s front seven has been led by LBs Donald Butler (60 tackles) and Kavell Conner (39 tackles) and DE Corey Liuget (2.5 sacks).
San Diego on Special Teams
The Chargers have one of the best kickers in the league in veteran Nick Novak. The seventh-year man out of Maryland has only missed one kick all season (24 for 24 on PATs and 16 for 17 on FGs), including a 52-yarder that gave San Diego just enough breathing room in Sunday’s win over Oakland.
Punter Mike Scifres has also been around a long time. He’s in his 12th season out of Western Illinois and is averaging 45.3 yards a punt, which ranks near the middle of the pack among NFL punters.
What Scifres does best though, is drop kicks inside the opponents’ 20-yard line. He’s done that 20 times this season, which is the fourth-most for all NFL punters.
Series History
St. Louis leads the all-time series six wins to four over San Diego. That total includes three wins in the four meetings between the clubs since the Rams moved to the Gateway City in 1995.
The most recent matchup was a 20-17 win for St. Louis back in 2010. That game featured a 109-yard rushing performance by then-Rams RB Steven Jackson, who also scored a touchdown to help St. Louis grab a 17-0 first half lead.
The last game between the two played in San Diego was in 2006. The Chargers won that contest 38-24, behind 240 total yards (183 rushing, 57 receiving) and three touchdowns by future Hall of Fame RB LaDainian Tomlinson.
For more Rams news and updates, visit Rams Central.
Cedric Williams, a lifelong St. Louisan and proud UMSL alum, has been a freelance reporter/photographer covering St. Louis area sports for nearly two decades. Most recently, he has been working as a credentialed beat writer covering the Rams and small-school college sports for Examiner.com and other outlets from around the area. Please share any comments, questions, or feedback with Cedric at cedricwilliams510@gmail.com. His work can be found on Examiner.com.
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The San Diego Chargers continue to struggle as they head into their Week 12 matchup with the St. Louis Rams. The Chargers improved to 6-4 last weekend with a 13-7 victory over the winless Oakland Raiders, but posted their fifth straight loss ATS, failing to cover as 10-point home favorites.
The Rams continued their recent solid play last weekend, knocking off the Denver Broncos 22-7 to post their third SU win as underdogs in their last five outings. St. Louis topped the Seattle Seahawks in Week 7 before beating the 49ers in San Francisco two weeks later. The 4-6 Rams have held opponents to 10 or fewer points in their last two wins, which could be problematic for the Chargers, who have averaged just 13.5 points per game in their last four, while going 1-3 SU.
St. Louis Rams vs San Diego Chargers Opening Odds and Betting LineThe point spread was settled in at -6 for the host San Diego Chargers earlier in the week, according to 5Dimes. The over under betting line was hovering around 43.5, with odds movement expected during the week at Bovada.
Computer Prediction: St. Louis Rams vs San Diego Chargers PickOdds Shark computer prediction handicapping models run on this game pick a 24-14 victory for the Chargers.
St. Louis Rams vs San Diego Chargers Odds and Stats.
Team Betting Records & Power Rankings
San Diego will face the 4-6 St. Louis Rams, who own a 4-6 ATS mark on the season. In totals betting, the Chargers are 4-6 so far this season while the Rams are 5-5. Stay Informed: follow us on Twitter for odds specials, betting line moves and San Diego vs St. Louis injuries news.
The Power Rankings at Odds Shark have the No. 25-rated St. Louis Rams taking on the No. 15-rated San Diego Chargers in this betting contest.
How St. Louis Rams vs San Diego Chargers Stats Matchup
Offensively, the game matches up the San Diego Chargers No. 17-ranked offense (21.8 PPG) against a St. Louis Rams defense that ranks No. 25 at 25.8 PPG. The Chargers passing attack has averaged 244.9 yards per game, less than the Rams give up through the air (247.1 YPG on average).
Defensively, the St. Louis Rams feature the league’s No. 19-rated road run defense, allowing 110.6 yards per game. The San Diego Chargers, meanwhile, ranks No. 24 in rushing offense at home.
Recent Outings Betting Recap
Tre Mason went over the 100-yard mark (113) in his team’s latest effort as St. Louis defeated Denver by a score of 22-7 on Sunday.
In their last game, the Chargers were Week 11 winners, coming out on top of the Raiders by a score of 13-6.
St. Louis Rams vs San Diego Chargers Betting Odds Trends
The total has gone UNDER in 10 of St. Louis’s last 15 games
St. Louis is 2-6 ATS in its last 8 games on the road
St. Louis is 2-6 SU in its last 8 games on the road
The total has gone UNDER in 6 of St. Louis’s last 8 games on the road
San Diego is 0-5 ATS in its last 5 games
San Diego is 11-5 SU in its last 16 games
The total has gone UNDER in 4 of San Diego’s last 6 games
San Diego is 7-1 SU in its last 8 games at homeNext Betting Matchups
St. Louis home to Oakland, Sunday, November 30th
San Diego at Baltimore, Sunday, November 30thNovember 17, 2014 at 3:11 pm #12058wvParticipantChargers favored by SIX
http://www.footballlocks.com/nfl_point_spreads.shtmlSeattle favored by 6.5 over Cardinals.
SF is 8.5 over Washingtonw
vNovember 17, 2014 at 3:18 pm #12059wvParticipantChargers Blog
http://espn.go.com/blog/san-diego-chargers“… Philip Rivers downplayed any injury he suffered in Sunday’s win over the Oakland Raiders.
However, teammate Antonio Gates told a group of reporters in the locker room afterward that included Marty Caswell of The Mighty 1090 AM radio that Rivers has been playing with a rib injury this season. You can watch the video here.
“He’s been taking shots all year,” Gates said. “For those who don’t know, he’s been dealing with a rib injury, a very severe rib injury. But he’s been toughing it out these last three, four weeks.”
Rivers was sacked twice and hit four other times against Oakland. He had his knee rolled up on and also got the wind knocked out of him on the second sack of the day by rookie Khalil Mack.
“I’ll be fine,” Rivers said, when asked about any injuries he suffered during the game….”
————————–…“He showed that he felt comfortable out there, right from the start — even after missing all of that time,” Rinehart said. “Just the amount of carries he got last year, and we’re still running similar things. So he’s able to jump right back in. It was awesome having him back.”
Most importantly, the return of Mathews and the running game helped San Diego create some balance on offense, something that has been missing for most of this season. The Chargers ran the ball 32 times — including 10 times in the fourth quarter — and threw 34 times.
San Diego’s ability to run helped the Chargers control the tempo of the game and keep Oakland’s offense off of the field…
“He’s physical, fast and a tough back,” Chargers safety Eric Weddle said. “We have been missing that, obviously a lot, the past three weeks. So it was good to get him back in there and see that smile on his face as he punishes the defensive backs and linebackers. It’s an element that we have been missing.” …=======================
November 17, 2014 at 3:35 pm #12062wvParticipanthttp://www.pe.com/articles/disaster-754387-san-ugly.html
Jim Alexander…San Diego defeated Oakland Sunday, 13-6, scoring what turned out to be the winning points on the third play of the game when Philip Rivers hit Malcom Floyd with a 22-yard touchdown pass following a Raiders’ turnover. The teams then turned the heavy lifting over to the defenses and the punters, and if the Chargers’ Mike Scifres (four of his nine punts inside the Oakland 10) didn’t get a game ball, he should have.
But amid the malaise, there were a couple of hold-your-breath moments for the Chargers and their fans, who fully understand that the moment Rivers goes down, this team is done.
Early in the third quarter, just as Rivers completed a 26-yard pass to Floyd that was
negated by a holding penalty, someone rolled into his left knee. He stayed in, completed another third down pass that was short of a first down, then went to the bench where the trainers and doctors were anxiously waiting.
“That is not a good feeling, especially for a left tackle, to see him limping off,” said left tackle King Dunlap, who couldn’t be blamed for this one (he was holding his guy, thus the penalty).
“But he’s one of the toughest guys on the team. As long as he gets up, we know he’ll be fine.”
In the fourth quarter, again, Rivers got sacked and stayed down a while, but got up and stayed in. Afterward, he sat gingerly on his locker room stool, a bright red gash on one knee.
But Rivers’ toughness is legendary. Remember, this is a guy who played an AFC Championship game at New England on a torn ACL in January, 2008. If it’s possible, he’ll play through it.
Apparently, he already has been.
“He’s been taking shots all year,” Antonio Gates said. “For those who don’t know, he’s been dealing with a rib injury, a very severe rib injury, so he’s been toughing it out these last three or four weeks.”
As Gates spoke those words, Chargers assistant PR director Scott Yoffe, standing nearby, swallowed hard. Given that both men have to deal with a coach in Mike McCoy who detests any mention of an injury’s severity, such transparency obviously will not go unchallenged.
Unsurprisingly, Rivers provided little confirmation. Asked in the locker room, he said: “Couldn’t feel better.” In the interview room, he elaborated only slightly: “I just got rolled up on the one (hit) and just kind of landed … got my wind (knocked out of him) on the other. I’ll be fine.”
November 20, 2014 at 12:29 am #12200znModerator
Rams look to close tough stretch on high noteBy Nick Wagoner
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EARTH CITY, Mo. — If the St. Louis Rams can find a way to beat the San Diego Chargers on Sunday, they will be 4-4 in their past eight games.
That .500 record over that span would be the very definition of mediocrity, but for those paying attention, it would represent a pleasant surprise because of the teams they did it against.
When the schedule came out in the spring, many pointed to this eight-game stretch as one of the most difficult slates of games facing any team in the league. It included nothing but 2013 playoff teams and the Arizona Cardinals, who went 10-6 last season. Considering that, a 4-4 record would have likely had most Rams fans giddy at what the rest of the season might hold.
But the Rams’ inability to take advantage of a lighter schedule in the first three weeks combined with their consistent inconsistency would leave them shy of a .500 record for the season even if they do beat the Chargers.
On the heels of last week’s surprising 22-7 win against the Denver Broncos, the Rams find themselves searching for some sort of consistency. Even two wins in a row would be a sign of progress.
“That’s the thing and the guys were talking about that last night in the locker room is that we had a big win now can we go ahead and put another one together,” coach Jeff Fisher said. “Because it’s going win-loss, win-loss, win-loss and it needs to go win-win. That’s our focus.”
The Rams are 4-6 with six to play and though they are almost through the toughest part of their schedule, that guarantees nothing in terms of the rest of the season. However, the fact that they have been as competitive as they have through the past seven weeks would lead to a reasonable conclusion that they could make some hay if only they can prove capable of stringing a couple of wins together.
Fisher is pleased with how his team has performed during the past seven weeks.
“With the exception of the second half in Kansas City we’ve been in it,” Fisher said. “We just have to find ways to win games consistently, but this team has played hard and played physical against some really good teams. Big-picture wise I think we’re building it right. We’re building to contend and compete in the division. I think young teams need to learn how to match-up against those unfamiliar opponents, which we did yesterday. Now we have to do that again.”
If they can do it against San Diego, they go into a stretch that includes games against teams like Oakland, Washington and the New York Giants. While it’s almost certainly too little too late to make a run at the postseason, the Rams would seem poised to at least make a run at .500 or even their first winning season since 2003.
But before dreams of a strong finish can even begin, they must first win two in a row by finishing the eight-game stretch with a win in San Diego.
November 20, 2014 at 10:05 am #12220znModeratorhttp://cinesport.stltoday.com/saint-louis-sports/thomas-fisher-keeping-rams-fresh/
CineSport’s Brian Clark asks the Post-Dispatch’s Jim Thomas how the Rams are staying fresh ahead of Sunday’s game against the Chargers, and what to expect in San Diego.
November 20, 2014 at 9:15 pm #12261znModeratorNFL Preview: Rams at Chargers
NFL Films previews the Week 12 matchup between the St. Louis Rams and the San Diego Chargers.
November 20, 2014 at 11:03 pm #12267znModeratorEx-Rams QB Kellen Clemens giving Chargers tips from scout team
November, 20, 2014
SAN DIEGO – Executing an opposing team’s offense in practice can be tedious at times, but the San Diego Chargers have an experienced hand helping them prepare for the St. Louis Rams in second-string quarterback Kellen Clemens, who spent three seasons in St. Louis, finishing 4-8 as a starter for the Rams.
Clemens
Clemens is very familiar with St. Louis offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer’s West Coast-based offense, having played in that scheme with the Rams and the New York Jets. Clemens also intimately knows the Rams’ personnel from his time in St. Louis.“It’s huge for us,” Chargers defensive coordinator John Pagano said. “For him to be able to stand in the huddle and say, ‘This is how this is run,’ or those types of things when he sees a play. He’s got his job to do, and he’s still got to prepare. But when he has the opportunity to look at the plays and talk to guys about certain routes, it’s always huge for that.
“But you can’t put too much into that. Regardless of him, we have to go out and play, and we have to go out and execute. And that’s the most important thing.”
Clemens also downplayed his role in getting San Diego’s defense prepared for Sunday.
“I think I can give them as good of a look as I can, up until this point,” Clemens said. “I know the offense. I know how they’re going to read it. I know how they’re going to try to attack it, and the adjustments they’re going to make.
“There’s little things that I can see while running the scout team in terms of how they’re going to run things. But a significant difference? I wish I could claim that, but I don’t think I can.”
Clemens a two-year, $3 million contract with San Diego as a free agent, and said he holds no bad blood toward his former team. Clemens said he looks forward to seeing old teammates and friends made while in St. Louis on the field before the game starts.
“I’ll be out a couple minutes early probably to get my warmup in,” Clemens said, smiling.
November 21, 2014 at 2:34 pm #12306znModeratorPFF Preview: Rams @ Chargers, Week 12
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/11/21/pff-preview-rams-chargers-week-12/
The St. Louis Rams (4-6) are coming off a victory that might have been the biggest upset of Week 11 against the Denver Broncos. They will travel to San Diego to take on the Chargers (6-4) who ended their three-game losing streak with a win over the Oakland Raiders last week.
The Rams’ defense held Peyton Manning and the Broncos’ offense a mere seven points last week and will hope to contain the Chargers’ offense just as well. St. Louis’ defensive line has been a strong point of their season, and it appears defensive end Robert Quinn has hit his stride accumulating a +11.7 grade over the last four games. Against the Broncos he was able to create pressure six times and register two batted passes on his way to his best game of the year in rushing the passer (+4.0).
Getting pressure on Philip Rivers without blitzing may be the key to beating the Chargers. Over the last three games, Rivers’ best rating when teams did not blitz was an even 0.0. His worst rating when the opposition did not blitz came against the Dolphins in Week 9 where he threw three interceptions and posted a -4.2. The Dolphins blitzed on nine of Rivers’ 27 drop-backs, and when they did Rivers had a +1.1 rating. Even though the Chargers came away with a victory against the Raiders, Rivers had a -1.6 when the Raiders did not blitz compared to his -0.4 when they did. Rivers completed all nine of his passes against the blitz, but was 13 of 25 on plays the Raiders did not blitz.
If the Rams are able to get pressure on Rivers with Quinn and the rest of their front-four it appears they will have the advantage, but if they are forced to blitz Rivers to get pressure on him, the tables may be turned. Here are some other players to watch in this game.
St. Louis Rams
Aaron Donald – A front-runner for Rookie of the Year, Donald has been the second-best defensive tackle in the league overall (+21.6), and third-best against the run (+13.4).
E.J. Gaines – Inconsistency has been an issue, but Gaines is currently one of just two rookie cornerbacks with green grades in both coverage and run defense (along with San Diego’s Jason Verrett).
Kenny Britt – Britt was the primary deep threat in Week 11 when three of his seven targets were more than 20 yards downfield. Britt accumulated 96 receiving yards on deep passes.
San Diego Chargers
Brandon Flowers – When only including the weeks that Flowers has played this year he ranks second in the league overall +13.1, which shows how effective he can be when healthy.
Melvin Ingram – Ingram returned to the Chargers’ starting line-up after overcoming a Week 2 injury and made an impact rushing the quarterback. He finished with three pressures on 25 pass rush attempts.
Malcolm Floyd – Although Floyd hasn’t been flashy, he has been consistent catching fewer than three passes in only one game and less than 50 yards in two.
November 21, 2014 at 2:52 pm #12311znModeratorStalking the King of Pain
Bernie MiklaszGood afternoon …
1. If you enjoy watching tough quarterbacks trying to stand their ground against a swarming and ferocious pass rush, then you’re likely to be entertained by Sunday’s matchup between the Rams and Chargers.
I don’t know if San Diego QB Philip Rivers is in fact the NFL’s toughest QB, but as Tony La Russa would say, he’s tied for first.
Rivers has absorbed considerable punishment this season. According to Pro Football Focus Rivers has been pressured on 36.6 percent of his dropbacks this season, the league’s ninth-highest total among quarterbacks.
Rivers is banged up as he prepares to face the Rams. The Chargers and their QB don’t elaborate on what’s aching him, but teammate Antonio Gates described it as a “severe rib injury,” only to later claim he was misquoted or misunderstood or something like that.
Translation: the coaches got mad at Gates for describing the injury and identifying a specific target for defenses. The Chargers this week listed Rivers with a “chest” injury on the official report.
In the NHL they’d call this an “upper body” injury.
I think we can conclude that Rivers is hurting … but what else is new? He says he’s fine. The Chargers say he’s fine. And that’s what you’d expect from a proud football warrior.
Rivers may be mad-dog nuts, and I offer that as a compliment.
Rivers gets flattened, grimaces, rolls around, shakes it off, gets up, and resumes firing. But you can’t get him out of there. He won’t back down. Sunday against the Rams, Rivers will make his 139th consecutive start, the NFL’s second-longest active streak for regular-season games.
The Rams’ pass rush has gone berserk in recent weeks, rolling up 19 sacks and 104 total quarterback pressures — over the last five games. (The numbers are from Pro Football Focus.) Defensive end Robert Quinn and defensive tackle Aaron Donald will be stalking the King of Pain.
“I feel good,” Rivers told reporters in SD this week. “Shoot, it’s part of playing this position (to) get banged up here and there. I feel as good as I could ask to feel at this point in the season. If we told you every knick and knack we ever had, it’d be a long list and things you wouldn’t care to hear about.”
Rivers may want to wear a flak jacket Sunday.
The Gregg Williams defense will be coming after him. Not with the intent to injure, but to disrupt. Because is what the Rams do. But Rivers isn’t weak of heart, and if has time to make plays, he could inflict a different kind of pain on the Rams.
2. The pain and discomfort may be impacting Rivers’ performance. In his first six games Rivers threw for 15 touchdowns with only two interceptions and had a passer rating of 117.6. In his last four games, Rivers has six TDs, six INTs and a passer rating of 76.0.
3. Former Rams QB Kellen Clemens is backing up Rivers. He’s been busy this week briefing the Chargers on the Rams’ tendencies. I don’t know what that’s worth; Williams wasn’t the defensive coordinator during Clemens’ two seasons in St. Louis. But Clemens does have knowledge of what the Rams try to do on offense.
“He knows where they want to go, what they want to do,” Chargers cornerback Shareece Wright told the San Diego Union Tribune. “It’s an accurate look, so we should be prepared. He knows their system. … It’s good to have him here.”
Then again, the Rams’ offense is fairly predictable. Their tendencies are well established. I don’t think a Rams’ opponent requires an insider to ferret things out.
4. How will the Chargers protect and preserve Rivers? One way to do it is run the football, and offensive coordinator Frank Reich sees an opportunity to overpower the Rams’ defensive front.
“Those pass-rushers have that great speed off the edge,” Reich told the San Diego Union Tribune. “But where we have the advantage is, we’ve got size and strength on them at the tackle position. You can’t run 4.4 and be 350 pounds. We’ve got to wear ’em out physically.”
The theory makes sense. But the Rams’ run defense has allowed only 136 yards rushing on 53 carries (an average of 2.56 yards) over the past three games.
The return of RB Ryan Matthews should help the Chargers. He had 70 yards on 16 carries (4.4) against the Raiders after being out with a knee injury since Sept. 14.
4a. And then there’s this: Rivers is excellent at drawing opponents to jump the line of scrimmage. In last week’s game against Oakland, Rivers’ barking and skill at mixing up the snap counts caused four pre-snap penalties by the Raiders. It’s possible for Rivers to exploit the Rams’ aggressiveness up front.
5. The Chargers averaged 27.3 points per game in racing out to a 5-1 record to start the season. In their last four games they’ve averaged 13.5 points while going 1-3. But the Chargers have some dangerous targets. WR Malcolm Floyd is a legit deep threat. And keep an eye on Gates (the tight end) and WR Eddie Royal. They’ve been highly effective in lining up in the slot, combining for eight TD catches as slot receivers. Rookie Rams’ CB Lamarcus Joyner, who has done an effective job of covering the slot, is listed as doubtful (groin injury) for Sunday’s game.
November 21, 2014 at 3:09 pm #12312znModeratorChargers vs. Rams preview
By Eric D. Williams and Nick Wagoner
http://espn.go.com/blog/san-diego-chargers/post/_/id/8379/chargers-vs-rams-preview
SAN DIEGO — To remain in the AFC playoff conversation, the San Diego Chargers (6-4) have to keep stacking wins.
But the Chargers face a tough test with the St. Louis Rams traveling to San Diego for a Sunday afternoon game.
The Rams (4-6) have a losing record, but manhandled the AFC West-leading Denver Broncos in a 22-7 victory last week. St. Louis plays with relentless effort, led by one of the most aggressive defensive fronts in the NFL.
In addition to defeating Denver, the Rams have wins over the defending Super Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks, and the San Francisco 49ers this season.
A point of emphasis for San Diego will be doing a better job of protecting quarterback Philip Rivers, who is dealing with a chest injury. The Chargers know they have to play their best in order to get a win over the Rams.
“They have the characteristics of a typical Jeff Fisher team,” Rivers said, referring to the Rams coach. “They’re just tough, hard-nosed and relentless.”
ESPN NFL Nation Rams reporter Nick Wagoner and Chargers reporter Eric D. Williams preview the game:
Williams: Nick, Austin Davis completed 63 percent of his passes and had an 85.1 passer rating as a starter. Why did Fisher make the switch back to Shaun Hill? And what’s the difference between the two signal-callers?
Wagoner: The simple answer is turnovers. More specifically, the kind of costly turnovers that killed the Rams in close games. Davis threw four pick-sixes, with all of those coming in the fourth quarter. He also coughed up a couple of fumbles that were returned for touchdowns. That’s six touchdowns Davis was responsible for. When you’re a team built to win with defense, it’s hard to do that when you give up points without the defense on the field. Hill is more of a steady hand and has a stronger arm to go with his vast experience. The Rams’ defense is starting to come into its own. And with that group rolling, the Rams need a quarterback who can manage the game. As I like to put it, the Rams’ defense is playing well enough to win. They need a quarterback leading the offense, so it plays well enough not to lose.
Since we’re on the topic of quarterbacks, much is being made of Philip Rivers and this flap with Antonio Gates, and Rivers’ health. What’s your take on Rivers’ status? And if he’s not hurt, then what is the reason he went from an MVP candidate to someone who has struggled in recent weeks?
Williams: Rivers clarified his injury status this week, saying he suffered a chest injury falling onto the ball during the fourth quarter of Sunday’s game on a sack by Khalil Mack. Rivers said he’s been dealing with general soreness, like all players, this time of year, and clarified that Gates’ comments were an attempt to protect his quarterback from criticism for his uneven play the past four weeks. Inconsistent pass protection and a lack of a running game have been more of a contributing factor to Rivers’ struggling performance of late. Since starting the season 5-1, Rivers has completed 63 percent of his passes for 788 yards, with 6 touchdowns and 6 interceptions. He’s been sacked nine times, posting a 76.0 passer rating. The Chargers are 1-3 during that stretch.
Nick, what did St. Louis do defensively to limit Peyton Manning and the Broncos to just seven points last week?
Wagoner: It was a combination of things, including some schematics from defensive coordinator Gregg Williams that tricked Manning into a couple of mistakes. And let’s be honest, it didn’t hurt that tight end Julius Thomas and receiver Emmanuel Sanders missed big chunks of the game. But the biggest thing here is this defense is finally playing as well as expected. We all underestimated (myself included) that it would take this group a little while to adapt to the many wrinkles in a Williams defense. For the first part of the season, the Rams played much slower defensively than anticipated. Now, it seems everyone is settled in and playing fast and aggressive. Leading the way is a front four that has been as dominant as people would expect. End Robert Quinn and tackle Aaron Donald are legitimate difference-makers, and they have solid depth beyond them. But they also have a linebacker in Alec Ogletree and safety T.J. McDonald who are legitimately playing at a Pro Bowl level over the past three weeks. That’s not hyperbole, and I can’t believe I’m saying it, but it’s true. The Rams’ defense was expected to be a top-five group this year. It’s finally playing like one.
Eric, in perusing the stats and the film, it appears the Chargers’ defense has had its struggles both on third down and in the red zone. Is there anything you can put your finger on with their issues in those two key areas, and what should the Rams expect from the San Diego defense right now?
Williams: You’re correct. The Chargers are No. 29 in third down efficiency (45.4 percent) defensively, and tied for No. 28 in red zone efficiency (66.7 percent). San Diego’s issues in those areas have been a result of poor tackling and a lack of a consistent pass rush. But with the return of edge rushers Melvin Ingram and Jeremiah Attaochu, along with inside linebacker Manti Te’o, the Chargers were much better against Oakland, holding the Raiders to 3-of-15 on third down and keeping them out of the end zone. Along with the improved athleticism, the Chargers have to play assignment-correct football in those two critical areas for the team’s success on defense to continue.
Nick, I know you follow the stadium situation closely in St. Louis as well, something we’re also dealing with here in San Diego. What’s the latest in terms of St. Louis working to keep the team there, and do you believe there’s a realistic chance the Rams could be playing in Los Angeles next season?
Wagoner: It’s the billion dollar question right now, isn’t it? We’ve reached the point where there’s a new rumor every day. It can be difficult to parse through what’s real and what’s not. I try to talk to as many people as I can about this, and to be honest, I really think every option is on the table. I wouldn’t be surprised if they moved, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they stayed. But it’s going to be awfully difficult for them to move in 2015. I’m not convinced the league would allow it, especially with the local leaders in St. Louis working on a resolution. Former Anheuser-Busch president Dave Peacock is working diligently on trying to offer a solution, and he’s not to be taken lightly. He’s well respected in league circles, and the time for negotiations at the kiddie table have long since passed. The big boys will be having the discussions this time around. One other thing that’s not being discussed enough is where the Rams would play if they did go to Los Angeles next year, and I don’t mean a stadium on Sundays. I mean the day-to-day operations and practices. There’s no obvious solution out there, and the longer things play out, the less likely one could be in place before then anyway. I wouldn’t be surprised by either outcome long term, and I would be mildly surprised if the outcome turned into a move in 2015.
Sticking to that topic, the Chargers seem to be in a unique spot here because of their proximity to Los Angeles and the amount of business they get from that area. What’s the latest from your end, and how likely is it they make the move? Barring that, do you believe they have the support from other owners to try to block a move by another team to protect their interests?
Williams: The Chargers are in discussions with San Diego mayor Kevin Faulconer to put a proposal together that voters countywide could weigh in on as early as February 2016. But talks remain preliminary, and several of the stakeholders still need to have a say in order to build consensus for the project. Chargers president Dean Spanos remains committed to keeping the team in San Diego, but the family also is keeping its options open, which include possibly relocating to Los Angeles if the team is unable to get a stadium deal done in San Diego. The Chargers are on a year-to-year lease and could opt out of the agreement in February. The Spanos family is keeping a watchful eye on what happens in Los Angeles, with 30 percent of its business originating from the Orange County area. It’s tough to say how much sway Dean Spanos could have in blocking a team from relocating to Los Angeles, particularly with the NFL pushing the move. The bottom line is the Chargers want to remain in San Diego but any stadium proposal has to make sense financially, and relocating to a more lucrative market in Los Angeles remains a possibility.
========Rams at Chargers: Stats of the Week
2.57: Yards per carry the Rams’ run defense has allowed over the past three weeks, a vast improvement from a group that gave up 4.68 (26th in the league) in the first seven games.
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Number of passing yards Philip Rivers needs to reach 35,000. He enters Sunday’s contest with 34,913 career passing yards.
November 21, 2014 at 5:02 pm #12315znModeratorNFL.com’s “Playbook” likes the Rams
November 21, 2014 at 10:29 pm #12325znModerator5 Keys to beating the Rams
After defeating the division rival Raiders in a game that was far too close for comfort, the Chargers now face the St. Louis Rams in what is pretty much another must-win game. Despite an early season five-game winning streak, the fact that the Bolts lost three in a row prior to beating Oakland makes this another game that must end with a victory.
Although the Rams come to San Diego with a 4-6 record, they have beaten some of the toughest teams in the NFL in San Francisco, Seattle and Denver. St. Louis held the Denver offense to its lowest score since the days of Tim Tebow.
That was not a typo.
There are so many factors that go into walking away from an NFL game with a much-needed win. I’ll highlight my five keys to achieving victory for your Chargers listed below.
1. Protect Philip Rivers
I find it hard to believe that Antonio Gates’ comments about Philip’s supposed rib injury were “taken out of context.” That being said, El Capitan is fine and he will not be missing any time. He may be the toughest player in the entire league. Yup, I said it. Keeping Rivers clean and upright is crucial to the success of the Chargers. Lose Rivers and you can certainly kiss the season goodbye. The Rams defensive front-seven is stout when rushing the passer. They have pass rushers that will prove to be a handful and they must be accounted for at all times. If Philip walks away from this game without grass stains all over his jersey, there’s a very good chance that San Diego will be celebrating a win.
2. Get pressure on Shaun Hill
Shaun Hill recently took over for Austin Davis as the starting quarterback in St. Louis. Now playing with his fourth team in 13 NFL seasons, he is a seasoned-vet that knows the ins and outs of the league. He will never be confused for being mobile, but he is a bit savvy when it comes to maneuvering in the pocket. But make no bones about it, he can be rattled. Pressure from multiple areas, and a concerted effort to keep him guessing on where the rush is coming from, is paramount in disrupting his rhythm and making him nervous after coming out from under center. The Chargers must force Hill to make mistakes. The best way to do that is to continuously breathe down his neck and make him throw while on the move.
3. Establish the running game on offense
The return of Ryan Mathews was big for the Charger offense and the running game last week. His ability to wear out the Oakland defense legitimized the importance of his return late in the game even when Ryan was not on the field. Having the threat of Mathews in the game changes what the Bolts can do on offense. The offensive line is not only responsible for keeping Philip Rivers safe, they must also open holes and provide the San Diego backs with room to run. Establishing the run game only helps the passing game and the offense as a whole. Frank Reich, along with Mike McCoy, must devise a plan that incorporates the running game and accentuates the strengths of the big dogs upfront. I am interested to see how that plays out.
4. John Pagano must be aggressive in defensive playcalling
At this point in the season, this is not the time to revert to the soft-shell cover 2 or soft-shell cover 3 pass coverage — where the secondary is playing 8-12 yards off of the line of scrimmage — that we have seen at times under Pagano. With the linebacking corps returning to health, let’s see them pin their ears back and frustrate the opposing team’s quarterbacks. I want stunts via the defensive line. I want to see a corner blitz from either the nickel or outside spots. Get exotic and confuse Hill on Sunday, and going forward. Just because he has been in the league for a long time does not mean that he can handle an immense amount of disguised pressure and blitz combinations. Pagano was masterful last week, and we’d all like to see that happen again in week 12.
5. Wrap up and take good angles on defense when tackling
This boils down to the basic fundamentals of defensive football. See the play, get to the corresponding spot in where there is help or someone coming up in support, wrap up and drive through the ball carrier. At times when watching the NFL, it gets frustrating when watching the game. These are the best athletes in all of the world, in my opinion. But when it comes to fundamentals of the game of football, it seems as though a lot of that was never taught to them in their younger years during Pop Warner ball. It is no secret that tackling, or the lack thereof, has been a major challenge for the San Diego defense. There are many athletic defenders on this team. It is up to them and the coaching staff to fix this problem heading down this ever so important stretch of games.
November 22, 2014 at 10:12 am #12342znModeratorRams OT Joe Barksdale on the challenge the team faces on the road vs the San Diego Chargers, and how the upset over the Broncos helps the team’s mentality
November 22, 2014 at 12:54 pm #12348znModeratorRams-Chargers: Matchup breakdown
By Nick Wagoner
http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/13928/rams-chargers-matchup-breakdown
EARTH CITY, Mo. — A look at three individual matchups to keep an eye on when the St. Louis Rams and San Diego Chargers meet at 4:04 p.m. ET Sunday.
Rams defensive end Robert Quinn vs. Chargers left tackle King Dunlap
Quinn got a week off from appearing here last week because there were more pressing matchups and because I promised to put him in this space every week. But Quinn’s presence here is certainly relevant this time around. Dunlap is probably the best of a questionable lot on San Diego’s offensive line but with so many other spots along the line struggling, it could force San Diego into leaving Quinn and Dunlap matched up one-on-one on the outside.
Quinn didn’t have any sacks last week, ending a small surge he had in the weeks before it. He still might have been as disruptive as he’s been all year against Denver. The Broncos decided to let Ryan Clady take on Quinn on an island and Quinn beat him repeatedly. Only a number of penalties that weren’t called allowed Clady to keep Peyton Manning upright. Dunlap isn’t a bad player but he’s not in Clady’s class and if the Chargers can’t provide help for him, it could be a long day for a hurting Philip Rivers.
Rams safety T.J. McDonald vs. Chargers tight end Antonio Gates
The Rams have used McDonald in coverage much more over the past three weeks and he’s been better than expected as he continues to grow in his second season. Yes, McDonald is still at his best attacking near the line of scrimmage but in the past three games, he’s been targeted 12 times and allowed eight completions for just 38 yards with two passes defended. McDonald might give up a completion here or there but he’s often right there to deliver a hit soon after the catch is made.
McDonald won’t cover Gates exclusively as the Rams can also turn to linebacker Alec Ogletree and various other looks to help keep Gates in check but he’ll get his chances. Having covered Vernon Davis and Julius Thomas in recent weeks, though, McDonald is more prepared now to handle another difficult challenge than he might have been before. Make no mistake, Gates is still productive and a dynamic red zone threat with nine touchdowns catches on the season. With Rivers struggling, it’s likely he’ll lean on his most reliable target to get the offense going.
Rams tight end Jared Cook vs. Chargers safety Eric Weddle
Weddle is one of the best safeties in football and probably one of its most underrated players regardless of position. The Chargers use him in a variety of ways but teams generally avoid throwing his way. According to Pro Football Focus, teams have targeted Weddle just 23 times in 10 games. The results include 15 completions for 124 yards with no touchdowns, an interception and three pass breakups. That calculates to a passer rating of 60.8.
Cook battled a back injury in practice during the week but he’s a valuable cog in what the Rams want to do. After Kenny Britt’s big week last week, don’t be surprised to see him get more attention from San Diego. That should theoretically open up opportunities for others, including Cook. But the Chargers will likely lean on Weddle to keep the middle of the field quiet.
November 23, 2014 at 2:25 am #12365znModerator7 to watch: Rams at Chargers
By Jim Thomas
RIVERS BATTLES RIB AILMENT
If you’re San Diego QB Philip Rivers, this probably isn’t the best time to be facing a Rams pass rush that has been breathing fire recently. After the Chargers’ 13-6 victory last weekend over Oakland, TE Antonio Gates said Rivers had been dealing with a “very severe” rib injury for the last three or four weeks. Rivers was in visible pain after taking hits during that game, and on more than one occasion was checked out by the Chargers’ medical staff on the sidelines. For the first time since the 2007 AFC title game, Rivers showed up on the San Diego injury report this week with a “chest” injury. He had full participation in practice all week, but as a formality was listed as probable on Friday. But this is one tough QB. He has made 138 consecutive starts, second only to Eli Manning of the New York Giants among active NFL passers. Manning’s streak is at 161.
IN A RUT
Maybe it’s related to those sore ribs, and the absence of injured RB Ryan Mathews didn’t help either. But the Chargers’ offense has been stuck in neutral for the past month. Mentioned as an MVP candidate during San Diego’s 5-1 start, Rivers’ passer rating has been only 76.0 over the past four contests — according to the San Diego Union-Tribune. Three of those games were losses. The Chargers have averaged only 13.5 points and 259 yards per game in that span.
GATES STILL OPEN
Although his statistics (38 catches, 477 yards) are down a bit from last year, at age 34 Gates hasn’t forgotten how to reach the end zone. He has nine touchdown catches this season, already his high total since 2010. He’s four TDs away from becoming the ninth player in NFL history with 100 TDs. “Antonio’s really good at feeling zone defenses in the red zone,” Rams coach Jeff Fisher said. “He can get to seams and to holes. He’s got really strong hands if the ball’s there.”
THE OTHER GUYS
Rivers has lots of options in the passing game. Second-year pro Keenan Allen, who paid a pre-draft visit to the Rams in 2013, is averaging only 9.8 yards per catch this season — down 5 yards from his 14.7 average as a rookie. But he’s a good route runner who gets in and out of breaks quickly on a long frame (6 feet 2, 211 pounds). Nine-year pro Malcom Floyd never has had 1,000 yards or more than 56 catches in a season, but this big target (6-5, 225) is a big-play threat.
RYAN’S RETURN
After missing seven games because of a right knee injury, Mathews brought some much-needed spark to the Chargers’ running game with 70 yards in 16 carries last week against Oakland. After gaining no more than 69 yards rushing as a team in any of their three previous games, the Chargers piled up 120 vs. the Raiders. Mathews (6-0, 220) combines inside power with outside speed in a running attack that shows a lot of draw plays and zone runs on film.
INTERIOR OPPORTUNITIES?
Center Rich Ohrnberger hasn’t been able to finish the Chargers’ past two games because of injuries, and he began the week in a protective boot because of an ankle injury. After not practicing all week he’s listed as questionable. If Ohrnberger can’t go, the Chargers could be starting their fourth center of the season in rookie Chris Watt, a guard by trade. Aaron Donald, that’s your cue. Donald has 13 tackles for loss this season, along with four sacks.
PRESSURE DEFENSE
The San Diego defense doesn’t have a ton of sacks (17) and no one on the squad has more than 2½. Slowed by a knee issue earlier in the season, former Indy star Dwight Freeney has only two sacks and hasn’t been much of a factor lately. But under defensive coordinator John Pagano, the Chargers do bring a lot of blitzes and present them in a lot of different packages. “There’s some similarities with what Arizona does,” Rams offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer said.
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