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July 24, 2020 at 2:24 am #118334waterfieldParticipant
I’m more interested in the last one because that’s the one I’m most afraid of. Young people and minorities will answer polls but will they go out and vote?
July 24, 2020 at 10:17 am #118337wvParticipantBiden is not Hillary. Thats his best political-attribute.
Older voters like him. (His dementia is endearing, not a flaw to them. Kinda like Bush/Reagan’s stupidity was endearing to many Reps.)
But yeah, the question is will young people, minorities, progressives turn out, and vote for Biden.
And Covid is the X factor.
And Rep-Vote-Supression tactics are the Y factor.
And will Trump start a war with Iran. Or Portland.
And will Trump’s “Law And Order” card play well with the middle-class. It has played well all through history, in many countries. The bourgeoisie loves stability and order.
I dunno.
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vJuly 24, 2020 at 11:35 am #118340JackPMillerParticipantHe is already starting wars with other cities, that have Democratic Governors. Portland is just a testing ground.
July 24, 2020 at 2:01 pm #118352ZooeyModeratorI saw that article yesterday, and I don’t think much of Romney’s argument. It’s really so flimsy, I wonder what he is up to in publishing it.
July 24, 2020 at 2:48 pm #118354ZooeyModeratorBiden is not Hillary. Thats his best political-attribute.
Older voters like him. (His dementia is endearing, not a flaw to them. Kinda like Bush/Reagan’s stupidity was endearing to many Reps.)
But yeah, the question is will young people, minorities, progressives turn out, and vote for Biden.
And Covid is the X factor.
And Rep-Vote-Supression tactics are the Y factor.
And will Trump start a war with Iran. Or Portland.
And will Trump’s “Law And Order” card play well with the middle-class. It has played well all through history, in many countries. The bourgeoisie loves stability and order.
I dunno.
w
vThis is amazing. I mean…Biden could very well win this election without ever really showing up. Why isn’t he LEADING the Democrat coronavirus response? There should be a covid plan with his name on it. I can’t stand the Democrat party. They are just so useless. Just like Biden is supposed to get our vote because “He’s not Trump,” the Democrats are supposed to get all our votes because “We’re not Republicans.”
What are they fucking DOING? There is a pandemic going on without any leadership, and riot police are storm-trooping their way around largely peaceful protests creating most of the violence, and the economy is about to crash and where are the Democrats? Where the hell ARE THEY?
The time is ripe for action. This is what I’m saying. And…like that tweet zn posted the other day…the Democrats plan is to put identification on the federal officers and their vans. That’s their counter proposal. Their big principled stand. Fuck me, man.
And they have completely thrown the country overboard on fighting the virus, and on protecting the American people from the coming economic collapse. Jesus, the GOP is coming for Social Security as we speak. Where the FUCK is Joe Biden? Where are the Democrats?
Anyway. I was going to respond to the content of your post, and I got sidetracked. I agree with everything you said. I think on the Law & Order thing, that’s really all Trump’s got to run on. His handling of the coronavirus has been devastating to him, so he has to run on the Tough Guy crap, but so far, that doesn’t appear to be working. The crowds in Portland have grown larger in response to this, and that strongly suggests support for the protest, and opposition to Trump. You are right that Law & Order has appeal in this country, but that has so far been a two-edged sword for Trump. Not everybody sees him as the right guy to establish L & O, and he is seen, in fact, as partly responsible for the disruption. He’s failing to deliver the Law & Order he stands for.
I think election comes down to voter suppression, and I think there will be significant legal battles. I mean…both sides have drawn up battle plans already. The Democrats are revving up for that, and Trump is going to throw gas on the fire. You know he is. So we’re going to have an exciting few months here, what with the economy about to collapse, corona partying up the place, stormtroopers doing a national tour with each stop bigger and better than the previous one, and the nastiest election fight we will have ever seen.
Good times.
Still waiting for my passport. Not that any country will let me in. Turkey will. I have a friend in Istanbul, but Turkey isn’t much better, is it?
July 24, 2020 at 4:02 pm #118357wvParticipantBiden is not Hillary. Thats his best political-attribute.
Older voters like him. (His dementia is endearing, not a flaw to them. Kinda like Bush/Reagan’s stupidity was endearing to many Reps.)
But yeah, the question is will young people, minorities, progressives turn out, and vote for Biden.
And Covid is the X factor.
And Rep-Vote-Supression tactics are the Y factor.
And will Trump start a war with Iran. Or Portland.
And will Trump’s “Law And Order” card play well with the middle-class. It has played well all through history, in many countries. The bourgeoisie loves stability and order.
I dunno.
w
vThis is amazing. I mean…Biden could very well win this election without ever really showing up. Why isn’t he LEADING the Democrat coronavirus response? There should be a covid plan with his name on it. I can’t stand the Democrat party. They are just so useless. Just like Biden is supposed to get our vote because “He’s not Trump,” the Democrats are supposed to get all our votes because “We’re not Republicans.”
What are they fucking DOING? There is a pandemic going on without any leadership, and riot police are storm-trooping their way around largely peaceful protests creating most of the violence, and the economy is about to crash and where are the Democrats? Where the hell ARE THEY?
The time is ripe for action. This is what I’m saying. And…like that tweet zn posted the other day…the Democrats plan is to put identification on the federal officers and their vans. That’s their counter proposal. Their big principled stand. Fuck me, man.
And they have completely thrown the country overboard on fighting the virus, and on protecting the American people from the coming economic collapse. Jesus, the GOP is coming for Social Security as we speak. Where the FUCK is Joe Biden? Where are the Democrats?
Anyway. I was going to respond to the content of your post, and I got sidetracked. I agree with everything you said. I think on the Law & Order thing, that’s really all Trump’s got to run on. His handling of the coronavirus has been devastating to him, so he has to run on the Tough Guy crap, but so far, that doesn’t appear to be working. The crowds in Portland have grown larger in response to this, and that strongly suggests support for the protest, and opposition to Trump. You are right that Law & Order has appeal in this country, but that has so far been a two-edged sword for Trump. Not everybody sees him as the right guy to establish L & O, and he is seen, in fact, as partly responsible for the disruption. He’s failing to deliver the Law & Order he stands for.
I think election comes down to voter suppression, and I think there will be significant legal battles. I mean…both sides have drawn up battle plans already. The Democrats are revving up for that, and Trump is going to throw gas on the fire. You know he is. So we’re going to have an exciting few months here, what with the economy about to collapse, corona partying up the place, stormtroopers doing a national tour with each stop bigger and better than the previous one, and the nastiest election fight we will have ever seen.
Good times.
Still waiting for my passport. Not that any country will let me in. Turkey will. I have a friend in Istanbul, but Turkey isn’t much better, is it?
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Well, i got nuthin. As per usual. I will say this though — Once Biden became annointed, the Dems were stuck with his pluses and minuses. And given his limitations, i think perhaps its best if he does not try to do to much. Ya know what i mean. Just sit in the basement, talk as little as possible and dont lose the game. Prevent-Defense, in other words. The Dem-numbers-weasels have crunched the numbers and think he has it won, as long as he doesnt make a big mistake.
Run the ball. Dont fumble it. Run out the clock. Say nothing.And then govern like Obama/Clinton and fuck the country in that Same Ole Sorry Ass Dem Way.
…btw, on the ‘law and order’ thing. Its funny, i just finished ‘Love and Capital’ about the Karl Marx and F.Engels families. And the time period of the book is from about 1825 to 1910 or so, basically. Anyway, all during the mid 1800’s there were all these little revolutions and uprisings and strikes and upheavals in France/Austria/Prussia/Spain/Russia. Long story short, the upper-middle-classes ALWAYS fucked over the ‘progressives’ in every country, LoL. They would lean toward mild reform or medium reform, but in the end they ALWAYS supported the ‘law and order’ repressive forces. Over and over and over, in every nation in Europe. It was hilarious reading about it, and reading Marx reaction to it.
‘Law and Order’ — a powerful aphrodisiac for the comfortable upper-middle-class weasels, among others.
We shall see if its enough to save Trump. I think it will take more than that. Voter Supression and Covid AND law-and-order might do it.
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vJuly 24, 2020 at 10:41 pm #118391TSRFParticipantYou all have to stop with the negative waves. Universe brings you what you ask for.
Ask for Trump’s defeat. Period. Full stop. Nothing but. Oh, and that he gets physically removed from the White House after he refuses to leave.
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