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May 27, 2020 at 7:34 pm #115363
znModeratorMinneapolis.
May 26 2020#GeorgeFloyd https://t.co/31Phab6BKr pic.twitter.com/hJHjbuOkmY— YourBestBlackSelf (@LeslieMac) May 27, 2020
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‘A Disgusting Display’: Police Fire Rubber Bullets, Stun Grenades, and Tear Gas at Demonstrators Protesting Killing of George Floyd
“What is happening tonight in our city is shameful,” Rep. Ilhan Omar said of police behavior.People face off with police near the Minneapolis 3rd Police Precinct. People gathered at Chicago Ave. and East 38th Street during a rally in Minneapolis on Tuesday, May 26, 2020. (Photo: Richard Tsong-Taatarii/Star Tribune via Getty Images)
Minneapolis police officers dressed in riot gear fired rubber bullets, tear gas, and stun grenades into crowds of protesters that gathered late Tuesday to demand justice for the killing of George Floyd after video footage showed a cop kneeling on the back of the man’s neck as he cried out, “I cannot breathe!”
Videos and photos posted to social media show people pouring milk into the eyes of demonstrators affected by tear gas as the chemical substance clouds the air, enveloping the thousands of protesters marching in the streets near the site of Floyd’s killing.
“This is a disgusting display,” said Jeremiah Ellison, a city council member representing Minneapolis Ward 5. “I’m here on the southside, helping people as I can with milk, water, and towels. So far, I have been unable to prevent the police from firing indiscriminately into the crowd. Moments ago, I held a towel to a teenage girl’s head as blood poured from it.”
Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) tweeted that “shooting rubber bullets and tear gas at unarmed protesters when there are children present should never be tolerated. Ever.”
“What is happening tonight in our city is shameful,” Omar added. “Police need to exercise restraint, and our community needs space to heal.”
The massive protests erupted in the wake of video footage showing a Minneapolis police officer kneeling on Floyd’s neck as he lay handcuffed and face-first on the asphalt.
Floyd and onlookers repeatedly pleaded with the officer to take his knee off Floyd’s neck, but he refused to do so until an ambulance arrived. By that point, Floyd had been unconscious for minutes. In a statement following the Monday night incident, the Minneapolis Police Department said they were responding to “a report of a forgery in progress” and claimed Floyd’s death was caused by an unspecified “medical incident.”
Shortly after video of the incident emerged and spread rapidly across social media, Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey announced the firing of four officers who were on the scene.
“It is the right decision for our city, the right decision for our community. It is the right decision for the Minneapolis Police Department,” Frey said at a press conference Tuesday. “We’ve stated our values, and ultimately we need to live by them.”
In an appearance on CNN late Tuesday, Floyd’s family members said termination of the officers is not enough.
“Firing them is a good start, but we want to see justice for our family. We want to see them charged. We want to have them arrested,” said Tera Brown, Floyd’s cousin. “What they did was murder.”
As the demonstrations kicked off Tuesday, Democratic members of Congress representing Minnesota sent a letter to U.S. Attorney Erica MacDonald and Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman demanding a thorough investigation into Floyd’s killing and accountability for the officers involved.
“Mr. Floyd’s death appears to be yet another horrifying instance of excessive force leading to the death of African Americans across this country,” wrote Rep. Omar, Rep. Betty McCollum, Sen. Tina Smith, and Sen. Amy Klobuchar. “In addition to the obvious state laws that will govern this case, federal law makes it a crime for a state or local police officer to willfully violate a person’s constitutional rights, which includes the use of excessive force.”
May 27, 2020 at 9:26 pm #115371
JackPMillerParticipantThose officers should be in jail right now.
May 27, 2020 at 9:45 pm #115372znModeratorUniversity of Minnesota just broke a bunch of ties with the Minneapolis Police Department pic.twitter.com/PBEkl9FErZ
— Will Stancil (@whstancil) May 27, 2020
May 27, 2020 at 9:54 pm #115376znModeratorMORE: Video obtained by CBS News shows what appears to be the start of the confrontation between George Floyd & Minneapolis police officers. A restaurant's security footage shows cops taking him into custody, but the restaurant owner says it does not show Floyd resisting arrest. pic.twitter.com/KR8r7B1WPl
— CBS Evening News (@CBSEveningNews) May 26, 2020
May 28, 2020 at 11:02 pm #115392znModeratorDowntown denver. Some girl turned around to run this guy over #GeorgeFloyd #icantbreathe #downtowndenver #denver pic.twitter.com/eirohGGPr5
— Anabel (@bellers03) May 29, 2020
May 29, 2020 at 8:38 am #115398znModerator==
CNN crew released from police custody after they were arrested live on air in Minneapolis
(CNN)A CNN crew was arrested while giving a live television report Friday morning in Minneapolis — and then released about an hour later — as the crew covered ongoing protests over the death in police custody of George Floyd.
State police detained CNN correspondent Omar Jimenez, his producer and his cameraman shortly after 5 a.m. CT (6 a.m. ET) as Jimenez was reporting live from a street south of downtown, near where a police precinct was earlier set ablaze.
Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz told CNN Worldwide President Jeff Zucker that he deeply apologizes for what happened and would work to have the crew released.
Jimenez and the others — producer Bill Kirkos and photojournalist Leonel Mendez — were taken to the city’s downtown public safety building, but were released after 6 a.m. CT.
Jimenez, after his release, then reported live outside from downtown, and said he’d been treated cordially after he’d been led away.
“We’re doing OK, now. There were a few uneasy moments there,” Jimenez said.
The arrest
The crew were handcuffed and detained as Jimenez gave a live report on a Minneapolis street. A line of state troopers had just recently arrived in the area, which city police seemed to have abandoned for hours overnight after the police precinct building was set on fire.
Police told the crew they were being detained because they were told to move, and didn’t, one member of the CNN crew relayed to the network.
“A CNN reporter and his production team were arrested this morning in Minneapolis for doing their jobs, despite identifying themselves — a clear violation of their First Amendment rights. The authorities in Minnesota, including the Governor, must release the three CNN employees immediately,” CNN said in a statement shortly after their arrest.
Officers approached the crew as they moved in to arrest a protester behind them.
Jimenez could be seen holding his CNN badge while reporting, identifying himself as a reporter, and telling the officers the crew would move wherever officers needed them to. An officer gripped his arm as Jimenez talked, then put him in handcuffs.
“We can move back to where you like. We are live on the air here. … Put us back where you want us. We are getting out of your way — wherever you want us (we’ll) get out of your way,” Jimenez said before he was led away.
“We were just getting out of your way when you were advancing through the intersection,” Jimenez said.
After the CNN photographer was arrested, his camera was set on the ground and continued to transmit live images.
Jimenez and the crew had been reporting from the site, near a city police department precinct that protesters had burned and officers had abandoned overnight. About a block away, a fire was burning at a different, four-story building that had contained restaurants.
Over 100 state police officers in body armor and riot gear had arrived shortly before 5 a.m. CT and lined up near the area where the CNN crew was, near the precinct building on East Lake Street.
For a portion of time overnight — from sometime after city police abandoned the precinct building that was set ablaze — police weren’t in the area until the troopers arrived Friday morning, Jimenez had reported. The four-story event and restaurant building was burning unabated, and people were throwing things into the flames, Jimenez said.
A separate CNN reporter there was not arrested and ‘treated much differently’
CNN’s Josh Campell, who also was in the area but not standing with the on-air crew, said he, too, was approached by police, but was allowed to remain.
“I identified myself … they said, ‘OK, you’re permitted to be in the area,'” recounted Campbell, who is white. “I was treated much differently than (Jimenez) was.”
Jimenez is black and Latino.
Former Philadelphia police commissioner Charles Ramsey, a CNN law enforcement analyst, said the arrest made no sense.
“State police are going to have a lot to answer for this arrest here,” Ramsey said. “(Jimenez is) standing there … you can see his credential. Just move him where you want to be.”
“They should have a designated (media) area, and just tell them to move to that area.”May 29, 2020 at 12:37 pm #115411
snowmanParticipantThis is happening where I live and work. Happening just over one mile from where my daughter lives. It was incredible to watch CNN broadcast the fires and looting last night and see buildings and street names that I recognize, knowing that store is gutted, that block is burned out, a police precinct building abandoned and burned.
There are two groups of people involved in the mayhem here, peaceful protesters and professional looters/rioters. They are not distinct, or separate from each other. There is some overlap, I don’t know how much and nobody does or ever will know. Just like the RNC that was held in Saint Paul in 2008, there are a lot of people here from out of state who came just to set fires, smash windows and rob local stores.
The peaceful protesters need to be heard by the police departments, the mayors and the governor. There needs to be real change within the Minneapolis Police Department and probably the Mayor’s office too. There has to be fair and just treatment of suspects by the police of this will just happen again. The rioters and looters need to be arrested and jailed. They are destroying minority owned businesses in the Midway area of Saint Paul and the lake Street area of Minneapolis. The small business owners will probably not rebuild, not after being closed due to the pandemic and not some asshole breaks their store window, steals their merchandise and sets fire to the place. I am convinced that many of these rioters (not protesters, rioters) don’t give a damn about George Floyd, racial equity or anything else. They just want to act like savages under cover of night and do as much damage as possible, then go back to wherever they came from. It’s a double blow to the neighborhood, the Twin Cities and the whole state’s image.
I am in my office right now, in downtown Saint Paul, at Union Depot. My window faces the Green Line LRT platform where over a dozen black men are hanging out. There are no police around so I am watchful in case I need to leave the building quickly. Then I see several of the crowd run down Sibley Street to the side of the depot. I’m worried until i see what’s going on; two white women with a grocery bag are handing out ice cream to the men at the platform. I can see the men talking with the women. They accept the ice cream and walk back up tot he platform. It’s all good for now.
May 29, 2020 at 2:17 pm #115407
ZooeyModeratorNot sure what just happened. Do links to FB just go up in flames?
Found it on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UJR_FJcg1c
May 29, 2020 at 2:23 pm #115418znModeratorNot sure what just happened. Do links to FB just go up in flames?
We have an extra twitchy spam protector that sometimes just paranoiacally overreacts to certain links and marks them as “pending,” which means they have to be approved. (So far I haven’t seen a pattern in its overreactions, it just happens.) The alternative is to be bombarded with spam (which has happened). I apologize for the inconvenience and can only say that I check several times a day to see if any posts need to be “approved.”
And I had seen that story about the umbrella guy and his violence. It’s still not quite definitive enough as a story for me yet, but I am far from automatically doubting it.
May 29, 2020 at 4:21 pm #115421ZooeyModeratorAnd I had seen that story about the umbrella guy and his violence. It’s still not quite definitive enough as a story for me yet, but I am far from automatically doubting it.
Yeah, at this point, the only thing I can really say about it is that it wouldn’t surprise me. But it is not definitive. Not that it matters to me, really. Either way, it will just be used by one side to change the subject.
May 29, 2020 at 4:37 pm #115423znModeratorAnd I had seen that story about the umbrella guy and his violence. It’s still not quite definitive enough as a story for me yet, but I am far from automatically doubting it.
Yeah, at this point, the only thing I can really say about it is that it wouldn’t surprise me. But it is not definitive. Not that it matters to me, really. Either way, it will just be used by one side to change the subject.
May 29, 2020 at 7:07 pm #115438ZooeyModeratorThis is the first cheerful news I have read in a while.
Minneapolis Bus Drivers Refuse to Transport George Floyd Protesters to Jail
Organized labor throughout the city is banding together in solidarity against police violence in the aftermath of Floyd’s death.
By Lauren Kaori Gurley
May 29 2020, 8:57amThe murder of George Floyd at the hands of the Minneapolis police has sparked several days of protests, including the burning of a police precinct on Thursday night.
In solidarity with protestors, union bus drivers in Minneapolis signed a petition and refused to transport police officers and arrested protestors to jail on Thursday, PayDay Report first reported and independently confirmed by Motherboard. At one bus garage in downtown Minneapolis on Thursday evening, some workers refused to drive buses that were being dispatched to transport police officers.
“We are willing to do what we can to ensure our labor is not used to help the Minneapolis Police Department shut down calls for justice,” the petition reads. “For example, I am a bus driver with ATU 1005, and I urged people to call MetroTransit and the Governor the second I heard our buses and members were being organized to make mass arrests hours before the protests escalated.”
On Thursday, the city of Minneapolis shut down its light rail and bus services out of concern for employee and rider safety.
More than 400 union workers, including Minneapolis postal workers, nurses, teachers, and hotel workers have signed the petition posted on the Facebook group Union Members for #JusticeForGeorgeFloyd pledging not to aid the policing of the protests with their labor, according to Adam Birch, a Minneapolis bus driver who wrote the petition.
“I was on my route on Wednesday evening and there was a message that came over transit control asking for a bus to transport police officers,” Birch told Motherboard. “I interpreted this as Minneapolis police department preparing for mass arrests so when I had a moment on a layover, I created a post on Facebook saying that I’m a metro transit bus driver, and I don’t feel comfortable assisting the Minneapolis police department to make arrests. It got a lot of reaction, which was surprising so I created a petition.”
Since the release of a video earlier this week showing an officer Derek Chauvin kneeling on Floyd’s neck until he died, unions and workers in Minneapolis, a city with a strong organized labor movement, have condemned the killing. Among them, Minneapolis’s teacher union and the Awood Center, which organizes Amazon warehouse workers in the area, have also issued statements condemning the killing as an act of racism.
“If we feel if something is unjust, then workers should have the right not to support the situation or provide their services,” Ryan Timlin, president of Amalgamated Transit Union Local 1005, which represents the bus drivers and 2,500 public transportation workers in the Twin Cities, told Motherboard. “This was not a strike.”
Many members of Amalgamated Transit Union Local 1005, which represents 2,500 public transportation workers in the Twin Cities, live in south Minneapolis, where Floyd lived and was killed and where recent protests have taken place.
“ATU members live with similar fears on a daily basis. ATU members face racism daily. Our members live in and work in neighborhoods where actions like this happen, and where this took place, now watched in horror across the globe,” a press statement from the Amalgamated Transit Union Local 1005, said.
“In ATU, we have a saying: ‘NOT ONE MORE’ when dealing with driver assaults in some cases have led to members being murdered while doing their job,” the union said. “We say ‘NOT ONE MORE’ execution of a black life by the hands of the police. NOT ONE MORE! JUSTICE FOR GEORGE FLOYD.”
The Minneapolis police department, which has a history of misconduct allegations and racist violence, is represented itself by a powerful union. The Minneapolis Police Union has continued to offer “warrior-style training” to any officers that want it, despite the city’s mayor putting a ban on the style of training last year, which was linked to the shooting of Philando Castile in 2016.
When the police shot and killed 32-year-old Castile in Minnesota, the local teacher’s union took action to protest the death of Castile, who was a nutrition services supervisor, and 14-year member of the Teamsters Local 320, which also represents law enforcement officials in the Twin Cities.
Birch says the Facebook group Union Members for #JusticeForGeorgeFloyd is organizing a coalition of union members to attend a protest in Minneapolis on Saturday.
May 29, 2020 at 8:56 pm #115444
waterfieldParticipantFrom what I’m seeing on tv all I can think of is that these riots will do nothing but help Trump remain in office. If the local D.A. does not seek total justice (2d degree murder at a minimum) then the Feds can step in and still prosecute the officer(s). But to see the riots all over the tv screen does not do justice for the Floyd family and it does not in any way help us get rid of Trump.
May 29, 2020 at 11:15 pm #115446znModeratorFrom what I’m seeing on tv all I can think of is that these riots will do nothing but help Trump remain in office. If the local D.A. does not seek total justice (2d degree murder at a minimum) then the Feds can step in and still prosecute the officer(s). But to see the riots all over the tv screen does not do justice for the Floyd family and it does not in any way help us get rid of Trump.
There’s way more to this than the riots and yet if that’s all that’s on tv, that tells you a lot about tv.
May 30, 2020 at 12:57 am #115449waterfieldParticipantI’m not addressing the injustice to blacks. My concern is the impact on the 2020 election. I get the anger and violence that I see on the part of African Americans. But what upsets me is all the white young adults on skateboards, etc that are engaged in destroying property and even attacking some police. It just seems like these are students who are out to have an exciting time much like the protests during Viet Nam. What’s more exciting than participating in a riot. . These kids don’t identify with the plight of African Americans when it comes to police encounters-what they identify with is the need to party and this is one big party. Reminds me of why our youth failed to come out and vote for Bernie. Sure they came out to rallies, etc.-that was fun. But to stand in line isolated alone and wait to vote? Naw that ain’t fun.
We may just be seeing the re-election of Trump tonight.
May 30, 2020 at 1:38 am #115450waterfieldParticipantIf anyone wants to hear a powerful address to the lawlessness in Atlanta please listen to the black female mayor of the city. Keisha Lance Bottoms. Her point is: this is not a protest but utter chaos and violence and pure mob mentality. The opposite of Martin Luther King’s message and his idea of what a protest should be.
May 30, 2020 at 2:17 am #115452znModeratorI’m not addressing the injustice to blacks. My concern is the impact on the 2020 election.
Right now, my concern is the injustice. But I got what you were saying, W, I just think that part of the injustice to blacks is to focus only on the riots.
As it happens there’s a field of history called the history of popular violence. For a long time in european history, people who are lower in the social order by rank and wealth (and are treated as lower even when they have wealth) would riot under very specific conditions–when it was clear that the system was asking too much in terms of accepting injustice. This goes way back.
I know and understand that approach to things, which emphasizes violence against property of that kind as responding to a specific injustice that pushes the point that the system does not work equitably.
I don’t though accept it as a defense of the present in the USA. I am against popular violence of all kinds. I get where it comes from–but I can never condone it. I also understand the argument that as a person of some basic privilege, I don’t know what it’s like to put up with constant injustice and that I am in no position to tell others who are under constant injustice how to respond to it. Okay…but, I still can’t condone and defend it.
(My point in the post, though, is if tv is fixated on the riots and not on widespread injustices regularly inflicted on people of color, then, tv is just buying into mainstream white fright. Which wouldn’t be the first time. Though I personally don’t believe it will influence the election, because things that happen in late May I don’t think have the power to do that.)
Anyway on Atlanta. In a lot of ways I share that view W.
If anyone wants to hear a powerful address to the lawlessness in Atlanta please listen to the black female mayor of the city. Keisha Lance Bottoms.
The is Atlanta right now. Worth a million words.#GeorgeFloydprotest pic.twitter.com/O8S5X0nvAD
— Joshua Potash (@JoshuaPotash) May 29, 2020
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One of the best, smartest, impromptu speeches I have ever heard. Amazing leadership. pic.twitter.com/SHiPBdVDvC
— Ahmed Fareed (@FareedNBCS) May 30, 2020
May 30, 2020 at 2:22 am #115453znModeratorThis just happened on live tv. Wow, what a douche bag. pic.twitter.com/dQKheEcCvb
— Christopher Bishop (@ChrisBishopL1C4) May 30, 2020
May 30, 2020 at 2:53 am #115454znModeratorMany of us know about Matt Waldman. Football guy, draft analyst.
Here in a series of tweets, he feels compelled to address the big issues we’re seeing right now. It’s worth a read IMO. He talks about being the husband of a black woman and father of a black child in today’s USA.
Matt Waldman@MattWaldman
Seeing some of my colleagues talk about what it’s like being black in America–
@DianteLee_ comes to mind prominently this afternoon, I’d like to offer a different perspective.Being white, growing up in the north and south, and becoming part of a black family. What you learn.
The first thing you learn is that no matter how open-minded, loving, and book-educated you are, you are not ready for what you’ll experience once you become emotionally invested in the lives of people who are black.
Seeing, experiencing, and feeling it on a visceral level.
You will at first do what black people do as they’re growing up and first experiencing it: Wondering if what you experienced happened as you perceived it and trying to rationalize the motivations as not racist. Revisiting multiple times to make sure you’re not crazy.
Black people revisit, replay, and analyze things that happen–even after experiencing events like it for decades.
You learn there’s a constant state of questioning, analyzing, explaining (while angry). It’s stressful and wears you out.
You learn why a lifetime of having to be on guard for the potential of significant danger to well-being physically, financially, and emotionally is a drain on mental, physical, and financial health–and considering how doctors have been mistrained (even recently)…
about the pain tolerance, dosages, and overall untrue differences with black patients, it’s not surprising there’s a distrust of U.S. healthcare.
BTW-I learned with one of my roommates in 1990 in Miami that if I didn’t barge past the ER front desk in an empty waiting room,
my roommate, who waited 30 minutes with a medical emergency (I rushed him there) and was hyperventilating and sweating bullets was about two minutes from a stroke if I didn’t grab an annoyed doctor (once he saw my roommate–five folks were working on him immediately)
Even w/that story, at 20 yrs old, having influential teachers talk to me about their life in America, reading Malcolm X, learning history beyond my high school curriculum, I still wanted to rationalize what my roommate went through.
The truth: Being dangerously ill while black
I learned how to have “the talks” with my kids about retail stores, police, school, and the parents of their white friends. Things I never had to consider growing up. Sometimes those talks happened after the fact with incidents that came earlier than I hoped to God would.
Teacher putting my talkative kid in a desk and putting a tape perimeter around her to tell other kids not to interact with her and wanted her tested for a learning disability–when all she did was finish her assignments early (and correctly and consistently) and was bored.
Cashier being rude to my girlfriend because the clerk shorted $20 at the grocery. The manager being ruder when summoned. Neither manager nor cashier offering the slightest apology after counting drawer and it being exactly $20 over.
Countless times followed by retail clerks or front store security behaving brusquely until they realized I was with them and then behaving 180 degrees different. Cops thinking the way to behave with my executive wife whose family all earned college degrees was to speak ebonics
Wife pulled over for alleged “rolling stops”, going through yellow lights, or going 5mph over the speed limit & questioned about the veracity of her ownership of the car because of the cognitive dissonance of her dark skin & German last name that’s on her license and insurance.
Cops questioning that she owns the car even after they see the name match with the IDs. Cops following her home after everything checks out but they want to make sure that nice car is hers–the “don’t-fuck-with-me,” car that I would never have to drive for people at work to see
that she’s not some charity case they hired but a star employee. Not to mention that her dad, sister, and brother were Baltimore PD. And they know police training has been cut well short of optimal in the past 15-20 years.
My wife having to deal with “Cooper-like” women (not new) using tears as a weapon when they become threatened about my wife’s positive work relationships w/males at the job. And those males taking the bait because they don’t expect white women to be mature one but need rescuing.
Ex-girlfriend and I once applied for same job. She had more desirable industry experience, called her first, talked salary, & scheduled interview. She arrived in a stunning Chanel suit–very interview appropriate. Hiring manager took one look at her, said job was filled, offered
entry-level gig. Then manager called me, I went through three interviews–one was clearly a “does the owner give the stamp of approval that I’m a white male,” interview and was offered the job (I graphically told them what they could do with the offer).
The dread I felt when my wife decided to take a drive in her new car and forgot to tell me she was doing so after she ran an errand at night and I thought she’d be home in 20 minutes. Me driving around the county looking for her because I hoped she wasn’t pulled over.
My wife panicking and wanting to leave a concert when my daughter, a Marine, got pulled over for a traffic stop at night in a county that 15 years ago had signs that essentially told black people to leave at night.
I notice how some people who are uncomfortable around blacks get tense and shaky and I have to be 1-2 steps ahead and wonder if this is the day I’m going to jail for my wife. I have learned how to take the temperature of a room in a way I never had to before.
I notice black people taking the temperature of my behavior. Am I at ease and self-aware or am I going to be that guy trying to act black? Am I that guy who will treat my wife as some fetishized trophy? Am I the well-meaning but ignorant liberal social justice warrior 24/7?
All of this is done out of protection and understandably so. Some have seen and experienced too much to even want to try with me. And I get that. Hate it’s that way, but I get it and know I can’t change that in one interaction–and in some cases, ever.
What did I learn?
Being outwardly and vocally hateful was wrong and made your family look bad but being exclusionary for ignorant reasons, telling jokes, reinforcing racism behind the scenes was intentionally and unintentionally encouraged.
It’s the source of gaslighting.
That racism was often tolerated by younger adults not to upset their older parents or authority figures in society with the purse strings.
That it was ok to be friendly but not close to black people.
That black entertainers were exceptional and not the norm. Ring a bell?
That the norm was more like what I saw on the news. What did I see on the news? Murders, robbers, rioters in Miami reacting to police murder/brutality.
I knew this wasn’t true. Didn’t change the emotional reactions I had from these being internalized. Sound familiar?
Like many, these lessons created an ingrained fear. Fear of saying the wrong thing. Fear of being labeled a racist more than tacitly supporting racism. Fear of where to even begin with gaining real knowledge. It’s why so many never even begin.
Fact is, 5 yrs ago the reactions to this behavior was met with a lot more resistance. Progress is sadly slow but it’s there. Feeling that helplessness is a part of honest recognition.
Mostly, I’ve learned that I had to unlearn subtle and unintentional behaviors that I was taught that perpetuated systemic racism. Things family and authority taught. That it took time, effort, humility, and painful self-reflection. I’m still learning. We’re all still learning.
And, it’s exhausting to explain as often as it needs to be explained to give someone uninitiated a clear picture. A clear picture you may not see immediately or in its totality. I’m not telling you how to be, just sharing how I’ve been. Hope it helps.
May 30, 2020 at 3:07 am #115456znModeratorWe were out here protesting peacefully and a stupid ass trump supporter comes and hits us with their car. They hit two innocents and sent them to the hospital. The police did not one thing to that car. Share the video for awareness!!!! #protest #blacklivesmatter pic.twitter.com/WnNAzZbVO9
— FITBOY MIKEYY (@FITBOY_MIKEYY) May 30, 2020
May 30, 2020 at 8:36 am #115459
wvParticipantThis is the first cheerful news I have read in a while…
Minneapolis Bus Drivers Refuse to Transport George Floyd Protesters to Jail
Organized labor throughout the city is banding together in solidarity against police violence in the aftermath of Floyd’s death.
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Ok now ‘this’ is intriguing. Everything else about the Minny incident weve seen before. THIS could actually lead to something different than the usual standard operating procedure, shit.
When humans organize they can change things. Otherwise…ya know.
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vMay 30, 2020 at 8:39 am #115460wvParticipantFrom what I’m seeing on tv all I can think of is that these riots will do nothing but help Trump remain in office. If the local D.A. does not seek total justice (2d degree murder at a minimum) then the Feds can step in and still prosecute the officer(s). But to see the riots all over the tv screen does not do justice for the Floyd family and it does not in any way help us get rid of Trump.
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I have had those same thoughts. Because that seems to be the history of these things. People voted for Nixon, because he was the ‘law and order’ guy…and on and on and on.
Then again, Biden vs Trump is not McGovern vs Nixon. Its gonna be close. Very very close.
w
vMay 30, 2020 at 11:02 am #115465znModerator"It is a lynching at the highest level. No one can deny that," Dr. @CornelWest tells @andersoncooper of the death of George Floyd. "I thank God that we have people in the streets."
"Could you imagine this kind of lynching taking place and people were indifferent?" he asks. pic.twitter.com/r8iSUjJ3db
— Anderson Cooper 360° (@AC360) May 30, 2020
May 30, 2020 at 11:09 am #115466znModeratorKeeanga-Yamahtta T.@KeeangaYamahtta
If you don’t care about MLK’s democratic socialist politics, his anti-imperialist politics or his condemnation of US hypocrisy then no one gives a damn about your thoughts concerning his philosophy on nonviolence.May 30, 2020 at 11:34 am #115467wvParticipant<cornell west vid..
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Ooh. Cornell goes after Black Politicians who ‘accommodate themselves’ to the system.
I’m sure he noticed all those black politicians who picked Biden over Bernie.
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vMay 30, 2020 at 1:07 pm #115469znModeratorMy heart hurts watching this. I don't know what their motive is or who organized these white people to come out, but they don't care about us. That one woman is about to burst into tears and they won't even look at her… pic.twitter.com/35Hz5ldAaC
— 🇯🇲Black🇭🇹Aziz🇳🇬aNANsi🇹🇹 (@Freeyourmindkid) May 30, 2020
May 30, 2020 at 2:08 pm #115472znModerator===
Every Person Arrested In Saint Paul Last Night Was From Out Of State, Mayor Says
TOPLINE Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, along with mayors Jacob Frey and Melvin Carter, on Saturday condemned violent protests in the state, blaming organized outside groups for promoting unrest, while also announcing that they will fully mobilize the Minnesota national guard.
“The situation in Minneapolis is no longer in any way about the murder of George Floyd,” Gov. Walz … [+]
“Lets be very clear, the situation in Minneapolis is no longer in any way about the murder of George Floyd,” Walz said in a press conference. The violent unrest has now turned into attacks on civil society, “instilling fear and disrupting our great city.”“I want to be very, very clear: The people that are doing this are not Minneapolis residents,” Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey added. “They are coming in largely from outside of the city, from outside of the region, to prey on everything we have built over the last several decades.”
According to Saint Paul Mayor Melvin Carter, every person arrested in the city last night was from out of state: “We don’t know these folks,” he reiterated.
Department of Public Safety Commissioner John Harrington confirmed evidence of white supremacist groups trying to incite violence; Many posted messages online that encouraged people to go loot in Minneapolis and cause mayhem.
Walz, who also announced that he would fully mobilize the Minnesota national guard for the first time in 164 years, called the unrest “an organized attempt to destabilize civil society with no regard for civil life or property.”
“Our great cities of Minneapolis and Saint Paul are under assault by people who do not share our values, who do not value life and the work that went into this, and certainly who are not here to honor George Floyd,” Walz said. “So if you are on the streets tonight, it is very clear: You are not with us.”
“This is no longer about protesting… This is about violence and we need to make sure that it stops,” Frey said. “We’re in the middle of a pandemic right now.” The protection of citizens and property is the top priority, Walz and Frey confirmed on Saturday. “That situation can be expected to deteriorate further with these people,” Walz said, adding that violent protestors are being fed professional tactics in urban warfare by outside groups.
May 30, 2020 at 3:18 pm #115474
InvaderRamModeratorright now i sit here thinking to myself.
i want killer mike for president.
May 30, 2020 at 5:26 pm #115477waterfieldParticipantEvery Person Arrested In Saint Paul Last Night Was From Out Of State, Mayor Says
TOPLINE Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, along with mayors Jacob Frey and Melvin Carter, on Saturday condemned violent protests in the state, blaming organized outside groups for promoting unrest, while also announcing that they will fully mobilize the Minnesota national guard.
“The situation in Minneapolis is no longer in any way about the murder of George Floyd,” Gov. Walz … [+]
“Lets be very clear, the situation in Minneapolis is no longer in any way about the murder of George Floyd,” Walz said in a press conference. The violent unrest has now turned into attacks on civil society, “instilling fear and disrupting our great city.”“I want to be very, very clear: The people that are doing this are not Minneapolis residents,” Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey added. “They are coming in largely from outside of the city, from outside of the region, to prey on everything we have built over the last several decades.”
According to Saint Paul Mayor Melvin Carter, every person arrested in the city last night was from out of state: “We don’t know these folks,” he reiterated.
Department of Public Safety Commissioner John Harrington confirmed evidence of white supremacist groups trying to incite violence; Many posted messages online that encouraged people to go loot in Minneapolis and cause mayhem.
Walz, who also announced that he would fully mobilize the Minnesota national guard for the first time in 164 years, called the unrest “an organized attempt to destabilize civil society with no regard for civil life or property.”
“Our great cities of Minneapolis and Saint Paul are under assault by people who do not share our values, who do not value life and the work that went into this, and certainly who are not here to honor George Floyd,” Walz said. “So if you are on the streets tonight, it is very clear: You are not with us.”
“This is no longer about protesting… This is about violence and we need to make sure that it stops,” Frey said. “We’re in the middle of a pandemic right now.” The protection of citizens and property is the top priority, Walz and Frey confirmed on Saturday. “That situation can be expected to deteriorate further with these people,” Walz said, adding that violent protestors are being fed professional tactics in urban warfare by outside groups.
What is sad is that the tragedy of Floyd’s homicide is now being used as a vehicle for unrest and civil disobedience which of course will lessen the significance of this tragedy by focusing on the criminal behavior of those in the streets of our nation. Maybe that is the plan of those “outsiders”. How do we separate those who really do CARE about what happened to Floyd from those who are using this to either incite or just to be there for the excitement ? Those we see on TV who are burning cars, breaking into commercial buildings, looting, etc be they black or white do not care about what happened to Floyd-this is a time to riot and have fun !
May 30, 2020 at 6:37 pm #115479waterfieldParticipant===
Every Person Arrested In Saint Paul Last Night Was From Out Of State, Mayor Says
TOPLINE Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, along with mayors Jacob Frey and Melvin Carter, on Saturday condemned violent protests in the state, blaming organized outside groups for promoting unrest, while also announcing that they will fully mobilize the Minnesota national guard.
“The situation in Minneapolis is no longer in any way about the murder of George Floyd,” Gov. Walz … [+]
“Lets be very clear, the situation in Minneapolis is no longer in any way about the murder of George Floyd,” Walz said in a press conference. The violent unrest has now turned into attacks on civil society, “instilling fear and disrupting our great city.”“I want to be very, very clear: The people that are doing this are not Minneapolis residents,” Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey added. “They are coming in largely from outside of the city, from outside of the region, to prey on everything we have built over the last several decades.”
According to Saint Paul Mayor Melvin Carter, every person arrested in the city last night was from out of state: “We don’t know these folks,” he reiterated.
Department of Public Safety Commissioner John Harrington confirmed evidence of white supremacist groups trying to incite violence; Many posted messages online that encouraged people to go loot in Minneapolis and cause mayhem.
Walz, who also announced that he would fully mobilize the Minnesota national guard for the first time in 164 years, called the unrest “an organized attempt to destabilize civil society with no regard for civil life or property.”
“Our great cities of Minneapolis and Saint Paul are under assault by people who do not share our values, who do not value life and the work that went into this, and certainly who are not here to honor George Floyd,” Walz said. “So if you are on the streets tonight, it is very clear: You are not with us.”
“This is no longer about protesting… This is about violence and we need to make sure that it stops,” Frey said. “We’re in the middle of a pandemic right now.” The protection of citizens and property is the top priority, Walz and Frey confirmed on Saturday. “That situation can be expected to deteriorate further with these people,” Walz said, adding that violent protestors are being fed professional tactics in urban warfare by outside groups.
What is truly shameful is that those we saw in open defiance of the police, throwing bottles at anything resembling authority, setting fires, breaking and entering buildings to loot them, have no genuine CARE for the Floyd family or even the significance of this entire matter on the criminal justice system. To them, black or white, it was simply a time to get out and have some fun and excitement, by pretending to be anarchist and cause a whole lot of disruption. The ones who CARE about what happened to Floyd are the ones who peacefully protest. Those kids, again black or white, who we say looting Starbucks, and other stores and breaking the glass entrance to CNN headquarters were not angry-they were just having fun.
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