Melvin Gordon is raising the old "do you give an RB a big 2nd contract" issue

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    Fernando Ramirez@RealFRamirez
    #Chargers RB Melvin Gordon continues by explaining that it is hard to replace a great back. That you can’t just plug someone else there. He also said “besides QB, RB is the second hardest position to learn and we should get paid as such.”

    Kurt Warner@kurt13warner
    Looking @ it like an owner/GM – the reason they are in those positions is bc they are pounded on more than any other skill guy… u ride them to make other things go, but then they get beat up so don’t pay them! In normal business do u pay guys that carry load?? #AskingForAFriend

    Warren Sharp@SharpFootball
    It’s a poor strategy for owners/GMs in a capped market to pay top dollar to a position so easily replaced.

    Luckily for top RBs, there are enough old school owners/GMs that don’t understand how the game/position has changed & are willing to dish out lucrative 2nd/3rd contracts.

    Andrew Brandt@AndrewBrandt
    Teams know true value of RBs is in early years, under fixed and undervalued rookie contracts. System titled against this position in particular.

    Warren Sharp@SharpFootball
    “We’re devalued” – Melvin Gordon on the state of RBs.

    NFL’s most expensive RBs

    1. Gurley: replaced by CJ Anderson after injury
    2. Johnson: missed 15 of last 32 games w injury
    3. Freeman: missed 16 of last 32 games w injury
    4. McCoy: avg’d 3.7 YPC last 2 years

    …but go pay RBs

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    Peter King, from https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/07/15/peyton-manning-espn-nfl-show-fmia-peter-king/

    I think Melvin Gordon should study his football history. He’s in the aforementioned contract dispute with the Chargers, saying he won’t play this year for the $5.6 million he is due. On Saturday, he said: “You can’t just replace a great back. People think you can do that, and you can’t … Outside of [quarterbacks], running back’s the next-hardest position on the field and we should get paid as such.”

    There are so many flaws in that argument; it’s hard to know where to start with it. Start with C.J. Anderson rising from his couch after being out of football for six weeks last December to rush for 167, 132 and 123 yards in his first three games as a Ram. Regardless of how hard a position is to play or learn, football history has seen scores of no-name running backs walk onto a team and take star turns. Paying huge money to backs is one of the riskiest ventures in the game. Very rarely is it worth it—especially when you consider the story of a James Conner; he played for 6 percent of what Le’Veon Bell was to have made last year, and he produced just fine.

    I think this Melvin Gordon-Chargers impasse could get ugly. The Chargers running back, entering his fifth season, could hold out from training camp into the season if he doesn’t get either a new contract or a significant raise from his $5.6-million salary in 2019. There’s a few reasons the holdout could last a while, starting with the fact that Chargers GM Tom Telesco, who grew up in the Bill Polian front office of the Colts, is not afraid to take a hard line. But mostly, it’s about what happens in recent years when teams have either paid runners or drawn a hard line with them. Examples:

    • Le’Veon Bell balked at the Steelers’ offer of $14.5 million on the franchise tag last year. James Conner wasn’t quite as productive as vintage Bell—270 touches, 1,470 yards, 13 touchdowns—but he was close. And Conner, who made $754,572 last year, cost 1/19th of what Bell would have commended. No one in Pittsburgh is bemoaning the loss of Bell, though he’s a great player.

    • Todd Gurley is a great back too, and the Rams paid a guaranteed $45 million last year. They’ll say they aren’t regretting what they paid Gurley, but an odd and persistent knee problem last year limited him to 88 carries in the Rams’ last nine games—including a 35-yard rushing performance in the Super Bowl. The Rams picked up C.J. Anderson off the street in December, and in five games, he rushed for 488 yards.

    • David Johnson of the Cardinals responded to his new $13-million-a-year deal on the eve of the 2018 season by rushing for 940 yards (3.6 yards per carry).

    • Devonta Freeman signed with Atlanta for $22 million guaranteed in 2017. He’s missed 16 of the Falcons’ last 32 regular-season games and averaged 58 yards per game in the 16 he’s played.

    • In 30 games over his two NFL seasons, Charger understudy Austin Ekeler has proven elusive and reliable, averaging 5.3 yards per rush and 10.3 yards per catch, with just two lost fumbles. I don’t think Telesco will be afraid to take the slings and arrows of a holdout. So if you’re drafting your fantasy team very early, I’d give a long look at Ekeler.

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    Bucky Brooks@BuckyBrooks
    The RB narrative is so cloudy because some observers can’t recognize the difference between the elites & others. It’s goes beyond the numbers. It’s how DCs and defenders react to seeing the special ones on the field. Check the +1 fronts & single high coverage. ⭐️ RBs get that

    Bobby Carpenter@Bcarp3
    Dak is a good young QB but his play action passing is 30% better when Zeke is on the field. It’s why @EzekielElliott needs to be on the field for Dallas this season and if he holds out they have to pay him @GetUpEspn

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