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  • #75859
    zn
    zn
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    Worst rule in football robs Rams of touchdown, possession

    https://sports.yahoo.com/worst-rule-football-robs-rams-touchdown-possession-204029382.html

    The Los Angeles Rams are challenging the Seattle Seahawks in what’s suddenly a matchup for supremacy in the NFC West. And while the Rams held the edge early, they were victimized by the absolute worst rule in football: the fumble that becomes a touchback.

    The story: The Rams’ Todd Gurley II was rumbling toward the end zone when Seattle’s Earl Thomas executed a perfect chop on the ball. Gurley lost control, fumbling as he stumbled out of bounds. The ball shot forward, tipping the pylon as it went.

    The result: touchback, Seattle’s ball.

    It’s a bizarre, absurdly punitive rule, one that substitutes geometric chance (the height of the pylon over the field) for logistical sanity. Under rational circumstances, the ball would belong to Los Angeles on the goal line, and would be an eventual near-certain touchdown for the Rams. Nowhere else on the field is the ball turned over to the other team without that team seizing control of it.

    Instead, we’ve got this wonky, badly applied appendix of a rule that warps the entire complexion of the game. What is this, golf?

    The play had significant repercussions for the Rams, who ended up losing 16-10. It’s an unfortunate bad break that the NFL really ought to address.

    #75869
    InvaderRam
    InvaderRam
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    it is a bad rule. they need to change it.

    #75875
    Zooey
    Zooey
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    It used to still belong to the fumbling team at the one, I think. I believe that is one of the rules they changed sometime ago, along with the no forward fumbling rule that came about due to the famous Stabler fumble.

    #75890
    wv
    wv
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    I dunno. I am not sure what i think about it. One the one hand, the rule makes it very dangerous for the ball-carrier to carry the ball recklessly down by the goal-line. Maybe it adds a little excitement.

    Its an odd rule, but i dunno that its a bad one.

    I’d like to see a new rule, whereby, endzone celebrations count as lost fumbles.

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    #75891
    zn
    zn
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    I dunno. I am not sure what i think about it. One the one hand, the rule makes it very dangerous for the ball-carrier to carry the ball recklessly down by the goal-line. Maybe it adds a little excitement.

    Its an odd rule, but i dunno that its a bad one.

    I’d like to see a new rule, whereby, endzone celebrations count as lost fumbles.

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    What is the point of the rule? What does it accomplish? Honest question.

    #75892
    JackPMiller
    JackPMiller
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    I watched it on NFL network, and the guys said Gurley stepped out of bounds before the ball came out, and the ball should have been placed at the one. Not sure what you think? But if someone could, it would be nice if some one could post that Gurley out of bounds play here, and from different angles if possible.

    #75904
    joemad
    joemad
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    i remember replying to a thread on a Rams message board on a rule change that you would recommend to change…… I picked that rule, fumbling out of bounds in the endzone.. i fucking hate that rule…

    in addition, red flags are fucking killing me this season against the Rams….

    You had 2 red flags dropped by SF that went against the Rams, i think both were the Pierre Gacon catches… to me, the evidence was inconclusive to overturn those incompletions to catches….. yet they were both overturned…. to top it off one of the “catches” tacked on 15 yards for a very questionable late hit on Hoyer by AD…….

    Then, we had the red flag on the Woods TD catch that was ruled incomplete vs Dallas, that clearly was a catch but not overturned (turned out OK, because the Rams scored on the next play).

    Then we had this bull shit call against Gurley last Sunday against Seattle….. to me that was not conclusive enough to show anyone that Gurley lost possession of the ball…..

    I’m all for replay, but the video has to show conclusive evidence!!!

    Mike Perriera, do your job!!!!

    • This reply was modified 1 week ago by joemad joemad.
    #75906
    zn
    zn
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    i remember replying to a thread on a Rams message board on a rule change that you would recommend to change…… I picked that rule, fumbling out of bounds in the endzone.. i fucking hate that rule…

    Do you happen to know the point of the rule?

    Is it all just a reaction to the Oakland holy roller play?

    #75907
    joemad
    joemad
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    i don’t believe that the root of that fumble rule in the endzone was based on the holy roller play.

    The holy roller rule states that the fumbling team cannot advance the ball in the final 2 min of a half.. (Like Casper did when Stabler purposely fumbled the ball in San Diego)

    It’s a stupid rule because if it happens in the field of play (outside the endzone) the team must have possession of the ball prior to the ball going out of bounds… awarding it to the defense without possession because it went out of bounds in the endzone is not fair….it’s dumb….

    when that play was being reviewed, I was thinking to myself, ifa Gurley doesn’t get the score, we’ll celebrate a play later because it’s highly probable that the Rams will score……… then the ref awards the ball to Seattle, we were shocked, we didn’t even see the ball loose on the play.

    it’s not Holy Roller, it’s HOLY COW, the RAMS got screwed again on a bad replay call this season!!!!!

    • This reply was modified 1 week ago by joemad joemad.
    #75910
    Herzog
    Herzog
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    IT is just stupid. I hate that rule and I will never understand it.

    #75915
    wv
    wv
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    I dunno. I am not sure what i think about it. One the one hand, the rule makes it very dangerous for the ball-carrier to carry the ball recklessly down by the goal-line. Maybe it adds a little excitement.

    Its an odd rule, but i dunno that its a bad one.

    I’d like to see a new rule, whereby, endzone celebrations count as lost fumbles.

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    What is the point of the rule? What does it accomplish? Honest question.

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    I think it rewards awesome defensive plays like the one Earl Thomas made, and it punishes loose ballhandling at the goal-line.

    It kinda gives the defense a desperate shot at turning things around.

    Looks like the Seahawks D is well-schooled on the rule, too.

    Like i said, its an ‘odd’ rule, but I am conflicted about whether its a ‘bad’ rule.

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    #75919
    zn
    zn
    Moderator

    I am conflicted about whether its a ‘bad’ rule.

    Well then, in what sense could it be considered a good rule. What does it do that might be considered good.

    #75926
    Zooey
    Zooey
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    I am conflicted about whether its a ‘bad’ rule.

    Well then, in what sense could it be considered a good rule. What does it do that might be considered good.

    It punishes fumblers.

    You should know by now how the WV feels about players who spill the ball on the carpet.

    #75927
    zn
    zn
    Moderator

    I am conflicted about whether its a ‘bad’ rule.

    Well then, in what sense could it be considered a good rule. What does it do that might be considered good.

    It punishes fumblers.

    You should know by now how the WV feels about players who spill the ball on the carpet.

    I was thinking more along the lines of…WHY did the NFL institute this rule, what exactly does it accomplish or prevent.

    For example, rules against offensive holding prevent players from holding each other in offensive ways, which admittedly would make for bad television (for most people anyway).

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