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Three & Out: An Early Look at the 2016 NFL Draft’s Quarterbacks
http://draftbreakdown.com/three-out-an-early-look-at-the-2016-nfl-drafts-quarterbacks/2/
Written by Bryan Perez on November 12, 2015
GOFF, Jared | Cal | #16
-Still the top quarterback on my Board despite some problematic turnovers and less than stellar play over the last few weeks. If Goff decides to turn pro, then I’ll dig much deeper into the film that he’s compiled over the last two seasons…especially over the last few weeks. That said, the film that I have evaluated so far suggests that Goff is the most talented passer in this class whose arm is plenty strong enough to start and succeed in the pros. He’s being over-scouted right now, which is actually a good sign for him; it means he’s performed well enough to draw the attention of just about every NFL Draft analyst in the country. Player stock goes through peaks and valleys throughout the draft process, and right now Goff is experiencing one of those valleys (much like Mariota endured around this time last year). He’s a very good quarterback. Period.
COOK, Connor | Michigan State | #18
-Arguably the highest floor, lowest ceiling quarterback in the class. He doesn’t wow you with any one particularly great trait, but he also doesn’t have any overwhelming, glaring flaw. He’s an experienced player with better than average production and a NFL-worthy arm. My biggest concern is his lacking completion percentage. No, I’m not a box score scout, but when a player is consistently under the 60% completion mark, it’s reason to be concerned. All that said, I do believe that he has enough positives in his game to feel comfortable in the assessment that he’ll challenge for a starting job in his rookie season.
Day Two:
LYNCH, Paxton | Memphis | #12
-Lynch has been the hot name in the NFL Draft community over the last month or so, and for good reason. He’s having a fantastic statistical season and is putting a good year of tape together from a developmental standpoint. That said, I’m not quite as sold on Lynch as the masses appear to be. Yes, he’s an impressive measureables guy who also has the kind of athletic attributes that, when combined with his physical makeup, is really appealing. But in my exposure to Lynch, I’ve noted too many unimpressive throws to feel comfortable with placing him in the first-round tier. I have a lot more tape to watch, and I reserve the right to bump Lynch up a bit if the games I haven’t seen are the ones that have propelled him into “Draft Twitter’s” favorites.
BRISSETT, Jacoby | NC State | #12
-Brissett was one of the more impressive quarterbacks that I evaluated over the summer, and it’s no surprise to me that he is having a productive 2015 season (64% completion percentage, 14:2 TD/Int ratio). He’s big, he’s mobile and he has the arm talent required to start in the NFL. One of his best attributes is his ability to escape the pocket; he’s very “Big Ben-like” in that defenders have a hard time wrangling him to the ground. He’s powerful and agile enough to keep plays alive by breaking tackles in the pocket and firing the ball downfield. Sometimes, however, the ball placement just isn’t good enough, and as a result, I’m not sure he’s going to be ready to start in the NFL right away. I do think he’ll get a starting gig at some point, likely three years or so into his career.
Day Three:
DOUGHTY, Brandon | Western Kentucky | #12
-Doughty is having an incredibly productive 6th season on campus. He’s already thrown for 3,583 yards and 34 TDs, a year removed from a 2014 season when he compiled 4,830 yards and an astounding 49 TDs. He has some serious medical red flags and doesn’t necessarily present with starter’s tools, but every time I watch him I come away impressed with his pocket presence and overall demeanor on the field; he’s always calm and composed. Guys like Doughty — not the most physically gifted but who are confident and mentally tough — tend to stick around for quite a while. I think he can become an important backup/spot starter in the NFL. He could conceivably go undrafted because of his injury history, but at this point in the process, I’m a fan.
HACKENBERG, Christian | Penn State | #14
-I started the 2015 season with the mindset that I would forget everything that I thought I knew about Hackenberg. I wanted to give him a fair chance to make a new impression on me regarding his NFL grade. And while Hackenberg has had some positive moments this year, he’s just too wildly inconsistent from a mechanics and results standpoint to put much trust in him as a future starter in the pros. I get the fact that Hackenberg might be a “square peg in a round hole” with the offense in place at Penn State, but at some point natural talent has to take over. Hackenberg has one-hopped and skipped way too many passes in the short game and has fluttered too many dying ducks in the long game to suggest he’s the star he once looked like a few years ago. That said, the talent he flashed as a freshman should get him drafted somewhere toward the end of day three.
BOYKIN, Trevone | TCU | #2
-One of college football’s most exciting players, Boykin started the year with a lot to prove from a passing standpoint. It’s become what seems like a yearly tradition for some of the most productive college quarterbacks to end their collegiate careers with questions about whether they can play the position in the NFL. We’ve seen players like Tim Tebow get drafted high and fail, while others like Tyrod Taylor nearly slip through the NFL Draft cracks only to evolve into a very sound starter in the pros. Boykin has certainly shown development as a pocket passer in 2015, but I haven’t seen enough to justify moving him into the day two tier. I’m not going to grade him as a talent that requires a position change; he’s a quarterback and needs to be given a shot on the next level to continue his maturation as a passer. At worst, you’re adding a useful offensive weapon by bringing Boykin into the fold.
SUDFELD, Nate | Indiana | #7
-A big, deceptively athletic quarterback with a strong arm. Sudfeld is a player who will pick up steam as the draft process unfolds. He’s flying under the radar a little bit and if he can find himself in a post-season all star game, his big arm and good looking frame will make his stock bubble up.
WENTZ, Carson | North Dakota State | #11
-An impressive athlete who proved to be a dangerous dual threat in 2014 and was on his way for similar success this year before a wrist injury ended his season. Wentz has already been invited to the Senior Bowl; he’s the kind of player who can dictate where he ends up getting picked if he has a strong showing during the week of practices in Mobile. He only has about 1.5 years of starter’s tape, so scouts will naturally be hesitant to give him a higher than day-three grade. He’s displayed plenty of arm strength and accuracy between last year and the start of ’15, but he’s an incomplete evaluation for me until the all star circuit gets going. I rarely let those events overwhelm my final grade, but in the case of Wentz, it will be critically important for him.
KESSLER, Cody | USC | #6
-The Trojans’ starter is worthy of a draft pick if you’re looking for a guy who can be a solid backup quarterback on a team with an established veteran starter. Kessler has played at a high level on a big stage for his whole career, so he appears ready from a pressure standpoint to handle all that comes with playing in the NFL. I’m just not sold on his arm. Plain and simple. Spot starter, fill in for an injured veteran? Ok. Draft him with the intent that he’ll be your long-term answer at the position? No. At least, not on my Board.
PRESCOTT, Dak | Mississippi State | #15
-If you’re looking for a quarterback who is the best candidate to change positions in the NFL, it’s Dak Prescott. Similar to Logan Thomas from a few drafts ago, Prescott offers his most value when he’s tucking and running downfield. He’s a powerful guy who can break arm tackles much like a running back in the open field. With the NFL trending toward big, strong and fast athletes playing the tight end position, Prescott could be a perfect fit. He’s already been invited to the Senior Bowl, so it’ll be fun to get an up close and personal look at him. Maybe he impresses as a passer and keeps his dream of playing quarterback alive. I just wouldn’t bet on it.
DRISKEL, Jeff | LA Tech | #6
-What a difference a change of scenery can make for a player. Driskell was all but dead as a NFL prospect during his forgettable tenure at Florida. Then came 2015. He’s having his best season — by far — as a quarterback and has resurfaced as a potentially draftable talent.
Agamemnon
He didn’t even mention Kevin Hogan. He is a link to some videos of the QBs. http://draftbreakdown.com/video/?position=QB
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1851143/kevin-hogan
Kevin Hogan, QB
School: Stanford | Conference: PAC12
College Experience: Senior | Hometown: McLean, VA
Height/Weight: 6-4 / 218 lbs.Strengths Weaknesses
STRENGTHS: Hogan passes the eye test with a broad-shouldered, well-built frame for the position. Instincts, accuracy and velocity are enough to overcome the quirky delivery.Hogan has good (but not great) accuracy to all levels with especially impressive touch on deep passes when he has the room to step into his throw. While accuracy is a concern, arm strength is not. Hogan has a rifle.
Hogan has been well protected by the elite talent blocking in front of him but when pressure does force him off his spot, he is willing to step up in the pocket, exhibiting poise, toughness and quick decision-making to either throw or run. Hogan shows impressive accuracy when rolling to his right. Like Andrew Luck before him, Hogan is faster (and stronger) than he looks, making him a formidable threat on the run.
Stanford’s scheme calls for lots of play-action, boots and throwing on the move and deep shots – staples of a pro-style offense that suit Hogan’s athleticism and strong arm well.
WEAKNESSES: Elongated delivery. Struggles with accuracy on deep passes. Lacks great mobility that is increasingly valued in the NFL.
Hogan can hit the open man consistently but too often his passes force receivers to adjust their routes slightly, limiting run-after-the-catch opportunities and occasionally leaving pass-catchers vulnerable to big hits. Worse, Hogan will simply air-mail a pass now and then, missing his receiver by a few yards.
IN OUR VIEW: Stanford’s run-heavy offense doesn’t cater to gaudy statistics and Hogan has struggled with consistency, at times, but he possesses many of the traits scouts are looking for and promises to be among the most scrutinized quarterbacks in the country this fall.
Inconsistent or not, quarterbacks with Hogan’s combination of traits and experience in a pro-style offense typically don’t last long on draft day. If Hogan can put it all together in 2015, he could “surprise” and give Michigan State ‘s Connor Cook a run as the top senior quarterback prospect in the country.
COMPARES TO: Philip Rivers, Chargers – Elongated wind-up that will earn plenty of criticism in the pre-draft process but like Rivers, Hogan’s instincts, accuracy and velocity are enough to overcome the quirky delivery.
2016 doesn’t seem as strong as 2015 was for QBs. imo
Agamemnon
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2016/QB
Who knows. 😉
We could draft Jones with Philly’s 2cd rounder. That would be fitting. imo
Agamemnonwell. at least some of the top qbs will be coming into play? or will they be gone by the tenth pick?
Chance that one of the top 3 is there past ten and we take him? 10%
Chance that we take a QB in the 2cd round? 40%
Chance that we take a QB anywhere in the draft? 60%
I couldn’t get Miss Cleo on the phone, but I did get her cat.
WR MICHAEL THOMAS OHIO STATE
QB CARDALE JONES OHIO STATE
DE CARL NASSIB PENN STATE
TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
WR BRAXTON MILLER OHIO STATE
QB KEVIN HOGAN STANFORD
My all Ohio St. draft.
AgamemnonI would hope for Cook in the first round, Wentz in the second, or Hogan in the sixth. Otherwise I am willing to go with the QBs we have and better WRs/TEs from the draft and the OLine we have now.
Agamemnonjrry32 is a good poster. If the Rams decided to draft a QB, I am fine with that. I would not trade up to do it. I might consider trading into the bottom of the first round, cause I would get a guy for 5 years, but I most likely would wait.
Agamemnon
SUDFELD, Nate | Indiana | #7-A big, deceptively athletic quarterback with a strong arm. Sudfeld is a player who will pick up steam as the draft process unfolds. He’s flying under the radar a little bit and if he can find himself in a post-season all star game, his big arm and good looking frame will make his stock bubble up.
WENTZ, Carson | North Dakota State | #11
-An impressive athlete who proved to be a dangerous dual threat in 2014 and was on his way for similar success this year before a wrist injury ended his season. Wentz has already been invited to the Senior Bowl; he’s the kind of player who can dictate where he ends up getting picked if he has a strong showing during the week of practices in Mobile. He only has about 1.5 years of starter’s tape, so scouts will naturally be hesitant to give him a higher than day-three grade. He’s displayed plenty of arm strength and accuracy between last year and the start of ’15, but he’s an incomplete evaluation for me until the all star circuit gets going. I rarely let those events overwhelm my final grade, but in the case of Wentz, it will be critically important for him.
Another QB to look at. Just copied this from a previous post in this thread.
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I would have Hackenburg as my 4th. I understand that people have soured due to his numbers, but I can counter that pretty easily having watched him since his first game.
He committed and went to PSU for O Brien to be tutored by a pro QB coach .. who then abandoned him to the ultra conservative running coach Franklin … that’s when A Robinson bolted for the NFL too. J James bolted too. He won’t stay in school, he’s got Elway level talent and a coach that doesn’t care about QBs.
His issues, his mechanics issues, are on short throws and all based on footwork. It’s an easy fix for any coach that works with QBs at all, which Franklin doesn’t.
The only thing I don’t know about is his attitude. I have no idea how cohesive the team is, or how his coach lets him lead, but that would be my only question about him, and I’d have him no lower than 15. He has the mentality of a starting NFL QB, and the lower he gets drafted, the bigger the chip on his shoulder is going to be.
Of course he could be a jerk, too. Dunno.
I think Lynch and Wentz need a year, and Hackenburg likely too at least a half year.
I have no idea what happens to Foles … odds are it depends on the coaching situation.
But I have
Goff
Cook
Hackenburg
Lynch
Wentzthen Sudfeld a strong 6th.
Goff and Cook will come out ready to play football. Goff has the best pocket presence besides maybe Luck Ive seen in college. Cook is a gamer. Both are pro offense in tough divisions.
Another poster’s take on the QBs.
I like Cook. It is fine if they pick someone else.
I have Mannion, so I am OK no matter what. 😉
AgamemnonI think it is a good year to draft a QB, maybe two. Because, there aren’t any Donalds or Gurleys or Coopers or any prototype position players. There are a lot of good players and I think any position is draftable. It is hard to do a draft and not come up with 5 good players. imo So, let’s get some QB talent and see if one of them is the guy we are looking for. There are enough out there that if figures that a couple will be good. imo
AgamemnonI guess my question would be: Is one of these “potential” guys any better than Mannion?
I would still love the Rams to grab a wide receiver. I’m not sure what they’re going to do with the line. They’re in pretty good shape at running back.
I haven’t followed the college game at all this year so I have no idea about these guys.
I have heard that some teams are wary of Cook because of his attitude? A little cocky maybe?
I’ll have to trust the Rams this year. I can’t help them.
I like Mannion as much as anybody. Drafting another QB gives us another option instead of putting everything on Mannion. I believe we will draft a WR or two and a TE. The draft just is made that way this year. The OL is fine without the injuries. TBay’s OL is an example of that. They are the Rams but less injured. imo
Tbay starts two rookie OL and a off the street center. Agamemnon
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