Sam Rogers

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  • #68067
    zn
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    #68068
    JackPMiller
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    Wasted pick. We desperately need to draft a Center, and we drafted a Full Back instead? If Sullivan goes down, we are screwed.

    #68069
    zn
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    #68070
    zn
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    #68071
    Hram
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    Lot of worse things you can do with a 6th round pick than select the best full back in the draft.

    Heck, I’d do it every 6-8 years just because. Particularly if they are special teams demons and have a great heart with incredible work ethic.

    #68077
    zn
    Moderator

    Round 6, Pick 22 (206) (From Dolphins) Sam Rogers FB 5’10” 231 Virginia Tech 5.1

    Pick Analysis: Sean McVay should have some fun with all-purpose fullback Sam Rogers. His versatility should be valuable to a team in desperate need of playmakers and offensive weapons to surround Jared Goff with. –Mark Dulgerian

    OVERVIEW
    All you need to know about Rogers is that in his junior year of high school, he dislocated his elbow. Instead of sitting on the sideline for the rest of the season, he moved to linebacker and tight end for the rest of the year. He was a walk-on for Tech in 2013, but he ended up playing in every game and starting two (5-9 rush, 12-78 receiving). Rogers again played in every game, starting six and contributing on offense (32-140 rushing; 20-230, one TD receiving) and special teams (11 tackles). His offensive contributions increased in 2015 (61-260, two TDs rushing; 16-193, two TDs receiving), and rose again in his senior year (67-284, two TDs rushing; 24-301, four TDs receiving) as the Hokies grew to rely on his playmaking skills.

    ANALYSIS

    STRENGTHS A little ball of aggression. Able to play on all three downs. Has experience as ball carrier, pass catcher, pass protector and lead blocker. Can block from multiple sets and formations. Consistently productive for three consecutive years. Low center of gravity provides additional power as a runner. Carries good acceleration and knee bend to his target. Viable play-action pass catching fullback. Gives good effort as a blocker. Able to stuff and seal on down blocks from wingback spot.

    WEAKNESSES Gets over-amped in space as a blocker. Needs to play with less wasted motion and more body control. Second level blocking approach lacks patience at times. Squatty with short arms and struggles to sustain blocks against players with length.
    DRAFT PROJECTION Round 7-PFA

    SOURCES TELL US “He’s not going to measure out very well but he’s just a good football player. He’ll probably be a demon on special teams and I like how versatile he is.” — AFC East regional scout

    BOTTOM LINE NFL size and length is absent from the package, but good luck finding teams who won’t admire his versatility and competitiveness. Rogers is a move-blocking fullback with pass-catching ability who can also give you carries in a pinch. His roster flexibility greatly increases his opportunities to have a sustained career.

    -Lance Zierlein

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/sam-rogers?id=2558196

    #68087
    zn
    Moderator

    http://www.roanoke.com/sports/virginia_tech/a-fan-favorite-virginia-tech-running-back-sam-rogers-will/article_a392f49e-8fa5-56fd-b9a0-46206c26d0b7.html

    BLACKSBURG — As if Sam Rogers hadn’t already achieved folk hero status at Virginia Tech, someone whose legend has grown over time, Hokies defensive coordinator Bud Foster delivered a quote for the ages this week about the senior running back.

    “On the field he’s just a nonstop ball of butcher knives,” Foster said. “I’m telling you he just goes 100 miles per hour, and if you’re in his way, you’re going to pay the price”

    There have rarely been players come through Blacksburg as universally praised as Rogers, a legitimate walk-on success story who forged his way by sheer will.

    Right guard Augie Conte joked that Rogers works so hard that he makes everybody look bad. Quarterback Jerod Evans said he’d never met anybody as intense about football until he met the running back.

    Quarterback Brenden Motley remembered his thoughts when Rogers first got to campus in 2013, an infectious ball of energy ready to take Virginia Tech by storm.

    “I was like, ‘How did this guy get here? What are we doing? … What is he going to play? How is he going to help us?’ ” Motley said, laughing at the absurdity of those thoughts in hindsight. “Obviously, he has helped us in a tremendous fashion.”

    There will be a small but loyal group recognized Saturday on Senior Day at Lane Stadium, although it’s a safe bet the loudest ovation will be reserved for a 5-foot-11, 230-pound running back who didn’t even garner a Football Bowl Subdivision offer coming out of Hanover High four years ago.

    But that’s what makes it so special now that Rogers has become a fan favorite and consummate team leader; the kind of player every coach feels fortunate to have had.

    “We all have guys that we get to coach along the way that we know are special,” Hokies head coach Justin Fuente said. “But there’s another category for guys that are elite in everything that they do. And those guys don’t come along very often. …

    “There are just not too many people like Sam. Guys that you know that whatever they end up doing, they’re going to be incredibly successful at. Guys that truly are willing to do whatever it takes to help the team be successful and focused and hardworking.”

    And to think, Fuente’s only known Rogers for less than a year. Rogers has that kind of effect, even if he’s sheepish about the attention.

    “Honestly, it just feels weird because there’s other guys on the team that work really, really hard,” Rogers said. “You have the Chuck Clarks of the world. He’s up here all the time. You have other guys that are just doing so much, so part of me feels uncomfortable because I feel like these guys deserve just as much credit.”

    That’s not false modesty, which is part of what makes Rogers so well-liked. And the humble, put-your-head-down approach isn’t some newfound act. It’s been a part of him for a while.

    Rogers remembered wanting desperately to follow in his older brother’s footsteps and be a rare sixth-grader to play middle school football. While still in fifth grade, he asked his dad what he could do to accomplish that goal.

    “He was like, just start off with 60 push-ups a night,” Rogers said. “So I started off with 60 push-ups a night. Then it’d increase to 100 push-ups a night, 200 push-ups a night and just keep going. And I got obsessive over that, because I’m kind of like an obsessive personality I guess when I start doing stuff.”

    A host of people helped shape him along the way, from family members to coaches of all sports, so much support that Rogers thought: “If I don’t work, what am I doing?”

    Soon, Division I football became his goal. As has been famously detailed before, Rogers was under recruited in high school, despite being an all-everything at Hanover High. When he received a player of the year award at a Richmond event, Tech coach Frank Beamer, who was in attendance, asked his son, Shane, why the Hokies weren’t recruiting him. Shane’s response was that he was, but he, like others on Tech’s staff, wondered what position Rogers would play.

    Rogers wasn’t deterred. And he had some extra motivation. His dad, Todd, had flirted with interest from bigger schools but chose to play linebacker at Randolph-Macon. His brother, Ben, followed the same route, ending up at Hampden-Sydney, where he was a four-year all-conference pick and All-American center by the time he was a senior.

    “Part of me was like, that’s been done,” Sam said of going to a small school. “I don’t know if this sounds weird, but for me and them, I wanted to show them that, ‘Hey, we could have done this. We have the ability to do this.’ And I’m not saying they regret anything. They had an awesome time and they did great where they were, but I just kind of wanted to do something different.”

    Rogers rebuffed FCS offers from Bucknell and St. Francis, picking a preferred walk-on role at Virginia Tech over a similar offer from Virginia.

    The Hokies faithful sure are glad he did. Rogers has become part of the fabric in Blacksburg since then, snagging a starting role as a true freshman and doing whatever needed to be done on the field, whether that was running or blocking, playing on special teams or throwing a pass.

    His work habits became legendary, whether it was sticking around after practice to catch balls on the JUGS machine with the receivers, running wind sprints at 6 a.m. on an empty practice field or sitting in on quarterback meetings, just because.

    “I remember freshman year when he got here, he had class across the Drillfield and he had an hour off,” Conte said. “He would come back across the Drillfield, go run routes with one of the quarterbacks for like 35 minutes, then go walk back across the Drillfield to go back to class. … There’s never a time when Sam is not doing anything with football.”

    “He’s as real as you can get,” Todd Rogers said. “There’s no fake in him. The person you see is exactly who he is.”

    Though statistics are sometimes hard to quantify for a fullback — Rogers has run for 573 yards, caught 65 passes for 723 yards and scored eight touchdowns in his career, with a touchdown pass for good measure — he’ll likely go down in school history as one of the top players at his position, up there with Jarrett Ferguson.

    Still, Rogers has had some great individual moments. He had touchdown catches in both of the Ohio State games, his 51-yarder in 2015 bringing the decibel level up in Lane Stadium as high as it has been in recent years. His touchdown catch at UVa last year in the fourth quarter was the start of Tech’s comeback.

    But it’s not those individual moments that stand out to Rogers.

    “It’s about these relationships you build with so many people that I never would have the opportunity to do,” Rogers said. “I mean, it’d get me choked up just talking about it right now. There are so many people that I feel so fortunate to have met, just through this stuff.

    “It’s crazy, because you think at the beginning, it’s just all about your individual goals and you want to just go attain those, and it’s just all about me, me, me, me me. And you get blindsided by all these relationships you make along the way. And that’s so much more important than any goal I could ever achieve.”

    Rogers got an invitation to the Senior Bowl after the season and could be an interesting case in the NFL Draft, given the position he plays. Fullbacks aren’t often selected, although Rogers is versatile enough that his value on a 53-man NFL roster would be tremendous, even if he signs as a free agent.

    “The chances for someone to make it to that level is, as you know, pretty slim,” Todd Rogers said. “But Sam had the same chances going from Hanover High School to Virginia Tech, too. So I wouldn’t count him out at any of those levels.”

    For now, that’s not in Sam’s thoughts. To think about that, he said, would be doing his teammates a disservice. That doesn’t mean that when the time comes, he’s going to go all-out for it.

    “I remember my brother always telling me, his favorite quote was: Dangerous men dream with their eyes open,” Sam said. “And that’s something that I always think about. Dreams are just dreams unless you put them into action.”

    #68093
    nittany ram
    Moderator

    a nonstop ball of butcher knives

    Good enough for me.

    I’m sold.

    My only question is: How can you NOT draft a player described as a “nonstop ball of butcher knives?”

    Did all the teams that passed on him not see that quote?

    #68099
    canadaram
    Participant

    Ourlads

    Three-year starter from Mechanicsville, VA. A Swiss Army knife player who lines up at multiple positions including tight end, wing back, slot and fullback. Also exceeds on special teams’ coverage. Rogers fits the profile of fullback durability, toughness and quickness. Blue collar approach to his job. Drives his feet on contact, cuts and rolls a defender. Good hands to catch seams, swing passes, and check downs. Runs good elementary routes. As a ball carrier he drives his legs after initial contact. Runs with low pad level. Has physical limitations to overcome – short arms, bulk and finish speed. Senior Bowl notes: Performed well in blocking and one-on-one pass coverage drills. Stepped up aggressively blocking inside or outside blitzes. During 7-on-7 leaked through and cut off linebacker flow. Rarely carried the ball, but turned his back going into the line. 2016 stats: 283 yards, 4.2 you, 2 TD, 24 rec, 301 yards, 12.5 ypr, 4 TD. Fifth/sixth round.

    "It's nice to be nice to the nice." ~Frank Burns

    #68101
    canadaram
    Participant

    Brugler

    1. SAM ROGERS | Virginia Tech
    5102|231 lbs|4SR
    Mechanicsville, Va. (Hanover) GRADE 5th Round
    4/12/1995 (age 22) #45 MEASUREABLES Arm: 30 1/4 | Hand: 09 3/4 | Wingspan: 72 3/8

    BACKGROUND: A no-star recruit out of high school, Samuel “Sam” Rogers was a do-everything player at Hanover, playing quarterback, running back, linebacker and returner, but only received attention from FCS-level programs like Bucknell and St. Francis. After he was named the All-Metro player of the year in 2012, Rogers connected with Virginia Tech and was given a walk-on opportunity. Due to injuries, he quickly earned starting reps in the backfield as a true freshman, posting five catches and 12 receptions over two starts in 2013. Rogers started six games in 2014 and posted 20 catches for 230 yards and his first career touchdown. He started five games in 2015 and finished with 260 rushing yards, 193 receiving yards and four total scores. Rogers had his most productive season as a senior (12 starts) with 283 yards rushing and 301 yards receiving with six total touchdowns. He accepted his invitation to the 2017 Senior Bowl.

    STRENGTHS: Compact muscle with strapping build…balanced runner with loose movements for his body type…sneaky moves as a ballcarrier to shake defenders in the open field and create chunk plays…focused ball skills to snatch and secure without breaking stride…uses tempo and hesitation as a route runner to slip in between coverage zones…runs and blocks physical, always looking to finish forward…low center and maintains his pad level…versatile skill-set to line up all over the formation…experienced on special team coverages with 14 career tackles…completed three of four career passes in college with one passing touchdown…highly driven individual and competes with a winning mentality…refuses to be out-worked and that rubs off to his teammates.

    WEAKNESSES: Ordinary athlete with below average straight-line speed…forced to gear down in his movements and NFL defenders will contain him…overeager as a blocker, leaning and falling off balance…head-ducker and pass pro technique requires refinement…relies more on leverage and leg drive than explosive punch, allowing defenders to counter…short arms, which shows as a blocker, tackler and receiver with his limited catch radius…three career fumbles – not an alarming number, but ball security can be improved…looks maxed out and is slightly undersized for what some teams look for at the position.

    SUMMARY: A three-year starter at Virginia Tech, Rogers filled several roles over his career in Blacksburg, lining up all over the offensive formation and also playing on special team coverages. A former walk-on, he earned a scholarship after one week of practice his freshman season as his infectious intensity was the heartbeat of the Hokies’ program the past four seasons. Although he wasn’t a high volume ballcarrier in college, he was a reliable rusher and receiver when called upon, earning his playing time as a blocker. At the next level, Rogers projects as more of a H-back than true lead fullback, utilizing his motion blocking and receiving skills, but his energy and contributions on special teams are the keys to him sticking on a NFL roster.

    "It's nice to be nice to the nice." ~Frank Burns

    #68102
    canadaram
    Participant

    My big take away from the Rogers pick is that is a place in this world called Mechanicsville. Next time my car breaks down, I hope I’m driving through Mechanicsville.

    "It's nice to be nice to the nice." ~Frank Burns

    #68106
    zn
    Moderator

    My big take away from the Rogers pick is that is a place in this world called Mechanicsville. Next time my car breaks down, I hope I’m driving through Mechanicsville.

    Thanks for all the posts, Canada. Valuable info.

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    #68112
    canadaram
    Participant

    Thanks for all the posts, Canada. Valuable info.

    I enjoy it. One of the few fun times of the year for us Rams fans. 🙂

    "It's nice to be nice to the nice." ~Frank Burns

    #68167
    InvaderRam
    Moderator

    a nonstop ball of butcher knives

    Good enough for me.

    I’m sold.

    My only question is: How can you NOT draft a player described as a “nonstop ball of butcher knives?”

    Did all the teams that passed on him not see that quote?

    ummm… he’s fast becoming my favorite player on this team.

    #68183
    InvaderRam
    Moderator

    my guess is this is a kromer pick. and the plan is to take elements of the buffalo running game and fold that into the mcvay offense.

    should be interesting. mcvay has never had a running back like gurley (if gurley can regain his form). so bringing in that traditional fullback makes sense. they need to maximize the personnel they do have. and they figure that gurley does better with that lead blocker. but also the kromer system needs a fullback. the bills had the third highest paid fullback in the nfl last year. but then to marry that with the mcvay offense, rogers is supposed to be a very accomplished pass catcher as well. and not only that. but his pass blocking is also very efficient. is this the guy who is able to effectively blend these two systems? i don’t know. just thinking out loud.

    but also. everett is supposed to be a willing blocker. he’s lined up in the backfield as an h-back. more physical than engram.

    so my hope is that this offense takes on a more physical personality compared to mcvay’s washington offense. still matchup based but with more punch.

    #68184
    Agamemnon
    Moderator

    I am sure the udfras are coaches picks(somehow those guys have a way of making the team. 😉 ), maybe a scout’s favorite. When they start talking about paying a bonus to them, then I think Snead would have to have some say in that.

    It is also a bit of to Snead to sell the coaches on some picks. imo The coaches say maybe this is the type of player I want. It is up to Snead to see they don’t pass up talent to satisfy the coaches. Fit is a legitimate concept. So is working the draft. But number one should be talent. The ultimate goal has to be to maximize the talent you acquire in the draft. imo

    Agamemnon

    #68185
    InvaderRam
    Moderator

    well i don’t doubt that snead has a lot of say. i just find it interesting that they draft a fullback. that screams kromer to me. and while he may not have specifically singled out rogers as a pick, he might have told snead and mcvay that he needed a fullback for his running game. with snead’s job to try and find one that could satisfy both kromer and mcvay’s specifications.

    #68350
    Agamemnon
    Moderator

    Agamemnon

    #68351
    wv
    Participant

    Rogers is one of my favorite picks. If he stays healthy i think
    he’ll stick.

    The Rams couldnt run last year. Part of that was the hideous run-blocking.
    If nothing else this guy can run-block.

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    #68352
    sanbagger
    Participant

    a nonstop ball of butcher knives

    Good enough for me.

    I’m sold.

    My only question is: How can you NOT draft a player described as a “nonstop ball of butcher knives?”

    Did all the teams that passed on him not see that quote?

    lol…that was my feeling as well.

    That quote has shot up my list as all time favorites from the draft.

    Edit to add…I guess we can now call him ‘Sam the butcher’….for all you old timers (like me) what show did that come from…it’s an easy one.

    • This reply was modified 6 years, 11 months ago by sanbagger.
    #68357
    Zooey
    Participant

    Madison. Hedgecock.

    #68366
    wv
    Participant

    a nonstop ball of butcher knives

    Good enough for me.

    I’m sold.

    My only question is: How can you NOT draft a player described as a “nonstop ball of butcher knives?”

    Did all the teams that passed on him not see that quote?

    lol…that was my feeling as well.

    That quote has shot up my list as all time favorites from the draft.

    Edit to add…I guess we can now call him ‘Sam the butcher’….for all you old timers (like me) what show did that come from…it’s an easy one.

    #68370
    sanbagger
    Participant

    I knew I wasn’t the only one that knew that…WV wins the prize.

    #68372
    Agamemnon
    Moderator

    Agamemnon

    #68373
    zn
    Moderator

    a nonstop ball of butcher knives

    Good enough for me.

    I’m sold.

    My only question is: How can you NOT draft a player described as a “nonstop ball of butcher knives?”

    Did all the teams that passed on him not see that quote?

    lol…that was my feeling as well.

    That quote has shot up my list as all time favorites from the draft.

    Edit to add…I guess we can now call him ‘Sam the butcher’….for all you old timers (like me) what show did that come from…it’s an easy one.

    The (almost) historian in me is compelled to say, I have heard that phrase before.

    In Year Whatever, Rick Venturi, in an ESPN 101 segment, described I Forget Which Player as a “rolling ball of butcher knives.”

    So methinks it’s a thing coaches say.

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    #68381
    wv
    Participant

    #68382
    zn
    Moderator

    #71780
    zn
    Moderator

    Fullback Sam Rogers making a first impression as a Rams rookie

    Joe Curley

    http://www.vcstar.com/story/sports/nfl/rams/2017/08/02/fullback-sam-rogers-making-first-impression-rams-rookie/533245001/

    IRVINE – Sam Rogers waited until pick No. 206 to hear his name called in April’s NFL Draft.

    Now that training camp has arrived, he is less willing to bide his time.

    The Los Angeles Rams rookie fullback has noticeably been the first player on the 90-man roster to take the practice field for the first five practices of camp at UC Irvine.

    “I try to work as hard as I possibly can,” Rogers said. “Right now, you’re just trying to get a spot on the team, earning respect every day.

    “It’s not a publicity stunt. It’s just who I am. I try to get out here and get warmed up, get my mind right. It’s just how I get ready.”

    The Rams have been gathering a group of fans to build a “spirit tunnel” for players to run through before every practice.

    Rogers has been taking the field so early, about 45 minutes before the 3 p.m. start of practice, that there isn’t much to welcome him to the grass besides special teams coach John Fassell and the Juggs machine.

    “Always got to be ready,” Rogers said. “I’m always working, trying to be as versatile as possible. … We have 90 guys right now, just working to try to get on the 53 to really be a part of something special and contribute right now. That’s what we’re trying to do.”

    The second-team All-American was a versatile player at Virginia Tech, catching touchdown passes and even throwing a touchdown pass. His blocking skills were lauded by Pro Football Focus at the Senior Bowl.

    “You can’t be a one-trick pony,” Rogers said. “That’s the way the NFL is turning towards now. You have to have some guys who can play multiple roles.

    “That’s why we have some really good tight ends who can block and run routes, and some fullbacks who can do the same and running backs who can split out. It makes you more dynamic when you have guys who can do different things, so I’m trying to fit that mold.”

    Rogers is competing with Zach Laskey, who is in his second season out of Georgia Tech, to be the team’s starting fullback. He’s also hoping to earn a role on as many of Fassell’s special teams units as possible.

    “You’re working to play on all four. That’s the goal. You want to play on all four and have a role on offense. That’s what I’m working towards and that’s what everyone is competing for right now,” Rogers said.

    #71801
    PA Ram
    Participant

    Alice loved to get her meat from Sam.

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    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #72119
    zn
    Moderator

    Sam Rogers, the Rams’ ‘nonstop ball of butcher knives,’ is putting in long hours at training camp

    RICH HAMMOND

    link: http://www.ocregister.com/2017/08/08/sam-rogers-the-rams-nonstop-ball-of-butcher-knives-is-putting-in-long-hours-at-training-camp/

    IRVINE — If the Rams locked their practice field, rookie fullback Sam Rogers would need a key. What’s the football version of a gym rat? A gridiron gopher?

    The Rams raised some eyebrows in April when they drafted Rogers in the sixth round out of Virginia Tech. A fullback? In a modern NFL offense? Rogers seems to have set out, through the quality and quantity of his work, to prove during this training camp that he can have a role with the Rams in 2017.

    Rogers typically is the first Rams player on the field for practice – 45 minutes early – and also one of the last. A mention of that fact this week, though, drew a purposeful look from Rogers’ intense blue eyes.

    “It’s not like a publicity stunt or anything like that,” Rogers said after a recent practice. “I just try to get out here and work on some things. It’s just my way of getting ready.”

    It seems to be working. There’s still a month to go before the start of the regular season, but as of now, Rogers seems to be headed toward a spot on the 53-man roster. Rogers’ combination of special-teams intensity, blocking and ability to catch the ball out of the backfield makes him an intriguing option.

    There’s also a certain intangible about Rogers. A former college coach once referred to him as “a nonstop ball of butcher knives,” which is a bizarre but oddly accurate way to describe Rogers’ style of play.

    Listed at 5-foot-10, 235 pounds, Rogers is neither the strongest nor fastest player on the field, but his straight-ahead, run-you-over intensity might make a defender think twice about standing in front of him.

    It’s unlikely that the Rams will use Rogers as a lead blocker for Todd Gurley, but it’s possible that Rogers could emulate some of the roles filled by Benny Cunningham last year. Cunningham had only 21 carries last season but caught 16 passes.

    In his four-year career at Virginia Tech, Rogers totaled 802 receiving yards (and seven touchdowns) compared to 692 rushing yards (and four touchdowns).

    “I’ll do whatever they ask me to do,” Rogers said. “I’m here to help the team in any way I can, whether that’s special teams or blocking or catching or running. The goal for me is just to be as versatile as possible, so that they can use me in any way they see fit. So I try to be ready to do whatever.”

    If there’s any question about Rogers’ spot on the roster at the end of the preseason schedule, special teams could tilt things in his favor. Coach Sean McVay retained assistant John Fassel, who since 2012 has overseen one of the NFL’s most aggressive and successful special-teams units.

    Rogers is a natural at special teams. It’s inherent and not necessarily something he needs to improve in practice. But there is Rogers, on the field early every day, working on his ball skills.

    “During camp,” Rogers said, “there’s not as many hours and not as much time where you can feel like you’re getting ahead, because everything is so scheduled. Any time I can feel like I’m getting ahead in any way, I try to do that. If I can come out here 45 minutes early and work on a few things.”

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