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October 31, 2015 at 9:12 am #33251znModerator
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/10/30/mia-ne-grades-tom-brady-with-masterful-display/
– The Patriots entered this game with an ailing offensive line against a revved up defensive front, and their quarterback put on a masterful display of quick release football to blunt the Miami pass rush. While his offensive tackles, in particular, struggled to contain the rush, Tom Brady (+7.6) was quickly finding open receivers and using quick play action plays to exploit the Dolphins’ linebackers, collecting a passer rating of 149.7 on passes released in 2.5 seconds or less—155.8 on his nine pass attempts off of play action. If the Dolphins could have forced Brady to hold the ball a beat longer, they would have had him in trouble, but you could probably count the number of times they managed to do that on one hand.
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===Patriots film review: When Brady sped things up, Dolphins D lost its edge
http://www.providencejournal.com/article/20151030/SPORTS/151039909/17686/SPORTS
After the Patriots game-opening drive on Thursday, the Patriots offense began to slow down.
The next four drives led to four punts. Tom Brady was just 3-for-8 on the Patriots’ third, fourth and fifth drives of the game.
After that, things drastically improved. Brady completed eight straight passes and finished 26-of-38 for 356 yards and four touchdowns. After punting four times in a row, Ryan Allen was only used twice more in the last two and half quarters.
So what changed?
For the Patriots, it was all about Brady’s lightning-quick release.
By the time Allen punted for the fourth time, Brady had already thrown 19 passes, completing 12 of those. He held the ball for three seconds or longer seven times. Over his next 19 passes, he only held the ball for three seconds or longer twice.In the end, Brady averaged 2.35 seconds from snap to throw.
When he held the ball for three seconds or longer, Brady went 3-of-9 for 32 yards. When he got rid of the ball in less than two seconds, he went 15-of-17 for 167 yards and two touchdowns. When he threw the ball between 2 and 2.9 seconds, he went 8-of-12 for 157 yards and two touchdowns.
Brady kept the Dolphins’ defense on its heels by utilizing short passes – thrown under 15 yards in the air.
He went 23-for-32 for 280 yards and four touchdowns when throwing short. Brady did most of his work on the short left side of the field, going 13-for-17 for 132 yards and a touchdown. On short middle passes, he was 7-of-11 for 124 yards and three touchdowns.
By comparison, he finished 3-of-6 for 76 yards when throwing deep.
As you would expect, there was a correlation between pass protection and completions.In eight of Brady’s 12 incomplete passes, he was pressured or hit.
Brady only had one poor throw of his 38 attempts – a pass that was too high for Scott Chandler. The other incompletions were result from a Rob Gronkowski drop, a pass interference by Jamar Taylor that the officials missed, and great pass coverage by the Dolphins.October 31, 2015 at 9:25 am #33252InvaderRamModeratori’m curious to know how this rams defense would fare against that pats offense.
November 1, 2015 at 12:34 am #33262NERamParticipanti’m curious to know how this rams defense would fare against that pats offense.
I’ve been wondering the same thing.
Would rather see it when Ogletree is healthy again. Not intended as a slam against Barron at all… I think he’s done a pretty good job out there.
DL would probably make it uncomfortable for Brady, but 2 seconds is pretty quick. I was watching the game the other night, and yes, that ball was out of his hand right around the 2 second mark.
Would be pretty cool to see Barron and TJ repeat that sandwich hit, this time on Edelman, maybe slow him down a little.
Gronks another story, though.
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November 6, 2015 at 8:33 am #33639znModeratorMore on this.
The Patz OL is in heavy replacement mode. Rookies, injuries. Yet the Patz offense keeps on clicking.
Well as the material already provided shows, it ain’t cause of the OL, it’s Brady compensating for the OL. The trick is throw quick.
There are qbs in the league who can hold the ball for more than 2.6 seconds and do well. The Patz can’t.
In fact in terms of numbers of dropbacks where the ball is held 2.6 seconds or more, Brady is 29th out of 34.
QBs who do it a LOT more and do well with it include Rodgers, Ryan, and Palmer.
74.6% of Brady’s dropbacks are under 2.6 seconds, and that’s the highest in the league.
QBs who (1) have a much lower dropback percentage on plays where the ball is held less than 2.6 seconds, and (2) who also do well, include Roethlisberger, Brees, Palmer, and Rodgers.
Brady is also sacked a lot on the slower plays, meaning the sack percentage is high. (16.4%, which is just abysmal).
So it;s not that the Patz OL is holding up. It’;s that they can take advantage of Brady’s artistry with the quick pass and thrive doing that.
I have seen people say that the Patz situation proves you don’t need an intact or solid OL to win. Well, no…what the Patz situation proves is that you should have drafted Tom Brady.
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November 23, 2015 at 7:28 pm #34618znModeratorBy our count, Brady took an average of 1.86 seconds from snap-to-throw on his 40 pass attempts, which was his second-lowest mark of the season and lowest since Week 1 against the Steelers when he took an average of 1.85 seconds.
It’s worth noting this number could have been even lower if it weren’t for a completion to Brandon LaFell in the first half that took 4.13 seconds from snap-to-release.
“I’d say we learned a lot last week in the second half of the game about kind of where we’re at as an offense and things we’re going to need to continue to improve on,” Brady said Wednesday. “And like I said, you don’t plan for certain scenarios and all of a sudden they happen. You’ve got to figure out what to do when you’re under fire, and that’s part of the challenging thing about football. I’m glad we came out of it ahead.”
Of Brady’s 40 pass attempts, 24 of them (60 percent) took less than two seconds from snap-to-throw. On those plays, Brady was 17-for-24. Furthermore, on 12 plays Brady took less than 1.5 seconds from snap-to-throw — an insane number.
A major reason for this was the increased number of quick screens to receivers. This could have been because of two reasons: the loss of running back Dion Lewis and the depleted offensive line.
With the offensive line still battling injuries heading into Sunday’s matchup against the Giants, Brady’s quick release will likely be key to the offensive once again.
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http://suffolkvoice.net/2015/11/19/new-england-dealing-with-injuries/
The common reaction from the Patriots fan, when asked about the state of the offensive line is, “Well Brady gets rid of the ball so quickly, it won’t effect them.”
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Of late that has changed.
Of course they are scoring quite often, it just is not coming as easily and it is a direct result of the injuries. Against the Redskins the offense was rolling until both Dion Lewis and Sebastian Vollmer went down. After that the playbook was essentially thrown out and they just wanted to get out of that game in one piece.
In this past Sunday’s thrilling victory over the Giants, the Patriots offense looked awkward and desperate at times. Forcing big plays down field to Brandon LaFell and Aaron Dobson. Again a direct result of the offensive line injuries and Julian Edelman going down.
December 4, 2015 at 1:37 am #35089znModeratorWith the offensive line still battling injuries … Brady’s quick release will likely be key to the offense once again.
According to PFF Brady throws quick a higher percentage of the time than any other qb.
He is sacked 1.7% of the time on quick throws, and completes 70% of his quick passes.
In contrast, when they take longer to throw, he is sacked 14.9% of the time…which is just freaking bad…and completes 50% of his passes
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