Is anyone watching the Iron Fist?

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  • #66535
    Billy_T
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    I don’t know why I’m still hanging in there with this particular Netflix series, but I’ve watched seven episodes so far, and will probably continue and hope for the best. But my first impressions? It’s not good. In some critical ways, it’s actually bad, and it falls waaay short of previous Marvel shows like Luke Cage, Daredevil or Jessica Jones — my favorite of that bunch being Daredevil.

    Never read the comic version as a kid, so I don’t know how closely it hews to the original, or what its comic fans think. But I can say that the fight scenes are generally unconvincing, sometimes outright silly, even when we suspend disbelief in the usual way for martial arts films with “mystical” trappings. This is primarily the fault, IMO, of the lead actor, Finn Jones (Loras, from GoT), who really just doesn’t have the physicality to pull any of this off. If I’m the director, I hire an actual martial arts expert for the role, and teach him how to act, instead of the other way around.

    There is one exception, though, when it comes to the fighting: Jessica Henwick, who plays Colleen Wing, actually looks like she knows how to fight and has the requisite physicality.

    Another major problem is the pacing. It’s too damn slow. And while this can work, if the acting, writing and direction are strong enough, that’s just not the case here. Finn Jones is a problem there, too, as he has all the charisma and fire of a sleepy Keanu Reeves. A kinda “surfer dude” vibe, with zero connection to that culture. And this is problematic especially when he talks in mystical accents, attempting to rise above the sleepiness. Most of the time it comes across as unintentionally funny, at least to me.

    A shame. I like the possibilities of the story: Hero returns to New York after fifteen-year absence, thought long dead. Grows up in Himalayan monastery, where he masters Kung Fu. Mystical elements of “the chosen one,” in a fight against the evil Hand, etc. It really could have been pretty kewl escapist fare. Oh, well.

    #66536
    PA Ram
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    I heard it’s bad.

    Actually the only one I really liked was “Daredevil”.

    I didn’t finish “Jessica Jones” and I didn’t finish “Luke Cage” (although that was the second best one). I have no interest in “Iron Fist”. I may finish “Luke Cage” at some point.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #66546
    TSRF
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    Hmm. this got me thinking, “What the hell ever happened to the new Star Trek series that was supposed to start in January?”

    Here’s the latest:

    https://mic.com/articles/168868/star-trek-discovery-premiere-date-cast-and-everything-we-know-about-the-cbs-all-access-series#.YOdm0L10o

    Seems like it needs to overcome some inertia…

    I hope it is good. Always was Star Trek vs. Star Wars.

    Looking forward to Capaldi’s last season as Dr. Who (not like I was looking forward to Matt Smith’s: I was hoping Matt would go. Going to miss Capaldi..).

    #66573
    Agamemnon
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    I watched all 13 episodes. I doubt that it will be renewed. It is in the vast category of shows, that I would watch once, but never watch twice.

    Agamemnon

    #66575
    Billy_T
    Participant

    I watched all 13 episodes. I doubt that it will be renewed. It is in the vast category of shows, that I would watch once, but never watch twice.

    Any agreement with my take, regarding fight-scenes, pacing, the lack of physical presence for Danny Rand’s character, etc.?

    Isn’t he a bit too bland for the role? Or, is that how the comic books portray him? Haven’t read them, as mentioned.

    Also. Not a big deal. But on another site, I saw a photo from the comics. Looks like Rand is supposed to have two iron fists. The show makes it seem he can only manage one at a time. Again, not a big deal, from a martial arts fantasy point of view. But in a way, just having one makes him a lesser Luke Cage. I think if I’m in trouble, and have to face the Hand, I’d rather have Cage in my corner.

    ;>)

    #66599
    Agamemnon
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    I watched all 13 episodes. I doubt that it will be renewed. It is in the vast category of shows, that I would watch once, but never watch twice.

    Any agreement with my take, regarding fight-scenes, pacing, the lack of physical presence for Danny Rand’s character, etc.?

    Isn’t he a bit too bland for the role? Or, is that how the comic books portray him? Haven’t read them, as mentioned.

    Also. Not a big deal. But on another site, I saw a photo from the comics. Looks like Rand is supposed to have two iron fists. The show makes it seem he can only manage one at a time. Again, not a big deal, from a martial arts fantasy point of view. But in a way, just having one makes him a lesser Luke Cage. I think if I’m in trouble, and have to face the Hand, I’d rather have Cage in my corner.

    ;>)

    It wasn’t the actors or fights so much as it was the story telling. It could be an interesting story, but it isn’t, for me anyway. It is like it is written by people who shouldn’t be writing.

    Watch some episodes of Billions. I like how that is written. They have most of them on youtube.

    Agamemnon

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