how fare Brown & Havenstein? …including a detailed look at JB v. Oakland

Herzog wrote:

Am I the only one extremely annoyed by this?

I’m not that worried about it. Guys switch between tackle and guard all the time on teams. Sometimes an injury will force a tackle to become a guard during the season even though he had minimal practice at it before that. It’s just one relatively minor adjustment on a set front 5. Switching 2 guys from the same already set 5 is not like bringing in an entirely new starter. Meanwhile Whitworth, Saffold, and Sullivan–which btw is also the name of my favorite brokerage firm–have played together so much by now RS refers to their communication as “telepathic.”

Brown has to get it together but IMO the Rams have had worse right sides before.

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TexasRam wrote:

I rewatched all 33 snaps Jamon Brown had vs the Raiders. I didn’t review Brown as closely the first game but i know he was overcriticized for that first run block fail. He played a lot more snaps in this game so I wanted to evaluate him in this one to really get a feel for where he is at.

I was really impressed. He had some awesome battles in the trenches with Mack that was great to watch and very promising. He is real smooth at this stage at recognizing and adjusting to the stunts and varied blitz’s.

The only thing that is bothersome is he doesn’t at times lock on long enough. But it seems in pass pro he is giving just enough time. He is not like GRob who just got ran right my at times. Jamon gets an initial lock and mirrors nicely. But he can be eventually beat which may cause issues for longer developing passes if we go to that down the road. The other thing you want to see is how he matches up against top Dlineman. He handled Mack OK but what happens when he faces Pro Bowl DT’s? These dudes he faced were rookies.

Here is my unbiased report.

Jamon Brown vs Raiders

Summary: Jamon showed very quick feet, good power and good assignment awareness knowing who to block and where to go on each play. He stood up well on several occasions vs defensive plays of the year Khalil Mack. He also went up against rookies 94 Eddie Vanderdoes (3rd rounder) and 90 Trayvon Hester (7th round) and won almost every battle. Jamon needs work on locking on to defenders to sustain his blocks longer and staying balanced in pass pro more consistently. He showed impressive reaction and awareness vs stunts in this game.

Total plays: 33

Rating totals vs Raiders:

Very good – 6
Better than normal plays of Pro Bowl caliber.

Good – 23
Serviceable plays where you did your job.

Bad – 4
Plays where you hurt the team or need work

Very bad – 0
Plays where you got owned.

All 33 plays: (These are my rough chicken scratch notes i jotted down when I reviewed each snap. Please excuse the punctuation, grammar, spelling etc.)

1 run -loses engage man makes tackle or is close. Bad.

2 pass -good sustained protection. Good.

3 run – pulls to left side to help open a hole for Gurley on 3rd and 1. Moves guy back with power. Very good.

4 pass- play action. He slides to left to help sell the play action which results in first down pass to Woods. Good.

5 run – this is the play where Oline moves pile for 9 yards. Brown stonewalls his man on the right side on a nice seal block. Good.

6 run – shoots out to take out #57 right inside linebacker moving him back 8 yards to open hole for Gurley for 9 yards. Very good.

7 pass – play action. This was the big gainer to Everett. Brown shoots out to take out ILB #57, initial push but then quickly disengaged by 57 who then covers up Gurley on the pass. Need to sustain block better with hands. Bad.

8 pass – play action TD to Kupp. Slides left to sell play action. Good.

9 run – blocks NT #94 to left on a Gurley outside zone run to right. Almost lost hand engage but didn’t. Sustained seal block for duration of run. Good.

10 pass – the Mack sack splitting the TE’s. Brown with initial team chip block on 94 with Havenstein. Then keeps head up but no one else to block really. Good.

11 pass – the dump to Gurley play. Initial chip block on 94 with sully then quick slide to pickup and double Mack with sully as 94 stunts to outside. Super job blocking Mack! Very good.

12 run – Gurley run to left. Brown chips 94 and then try’s to shoot out to block LBers but they are already too far away. Looks like either he shouldn’t have chipped or shouldn’t have shooter out. Not sure. Neutral play but let’s go good. Good.

13 pass -slides to block 94 on a Kupp first down pass to right. Nice feet and nice mirroring to his right. No pressure. Good.

14 pass – play action to left. Another play where the whole line student body’s left on the fake to Gurley and Goff rolls right. He did his job selling it though Mack rushed fast to force Goff throw away. Good.

15 pass – 1st down pass to Higbee. Good initial punch and block by Brown on 94. Then Mack comes hard to Brown’s right on a switch. Brown picks up Mack and 94 curls around Havenstein for a hard pressure. Goff gets it off in time. Brown might have got called for hooking Mack here, but it was a bang bang play and looked like good veteran technique because the hook was gone quickly. Mack is powerful and Brown stood slowed him for at least a second before Mack got loose. Good.

16 run – very nice seal block on #90 while Gurley runs for 8 to the right. Good.

17 pass – Kupp to the 2 yard line. Raiders come with safety blitz to Havenstein with Brown drawing Mack one on one and Sully with #90. Brown fighting intensely to hold off Mack. Everyone needs to Behold this. Mack comes in like a bull ramming Brown two yards back off the spot as Brown is in his pass pro pocket drop. Mack then Rams Brown a 2nd time another yard back while Brown finally finds his footing and locks onto Mack to WWF Mack off balance to the ground. Brown gives up a lot of ground on this play to push the pocket more than ideal but ultimately stops Mack. Because of the fact of who Brown was battling here one on one, he gets a very good. Very Good.

18 run – gurely TD. Brown stands up # 90 and gets about a 1 yard push on him. Gurley runs behind Brown for TD. Good.

19 pass – quick pass – brown slides to right to help double 94. Shows quick feet and recognition. Good.

20 pass – underneath to Malcom Brown. Jamon draws 94 one on one. Holds pocket for sufficient time before 94 finally shakes lose. Pass already thrown. This would have been a pressure or sack if Goff needed extended time but because Jamon held defender for reasonable time he gets positive grade. This play is Another example of how Brown doesn’t sustain blocks long like the other lineman which is a concern. But his quick feet, understanding of assignment and initial engagement with defender provides serviceable pass protection. Good.

21 pass – underneath pass to Kupp for 18. Brown doubles DE 91 with Havenstein. Nice assign ment awareness. Which I’ll henceforth abbreviate as AA. Brown shows a lot of AA. Good

22 run – up the middle. Brown helps center push NT back 3 yards for nice 3 yard gain. Good.

23 run – to right side. Brown shoots out to find a LB to push. Doesn’t really locate anyone. Pushes pile around in a nice 5 yard gain by Malcom. Good.

24 pass – first down to Sammy. Short pass. Brown Mirrors 90 nicely in pass protection. Again provided nice pass protection for adequate pocket time but right at the end his guy sort of starts shaking free compared to how our other lineman stonewall guys a Bit longer. Good.

25 run – chip blocks 90 then shoots out to get second level block can’t find a man then safety # 27 runs right past him. #90 gets half tackle because brown didn’t chip him long enough. This seems to be a timing thing and coachable. I’ll
Give him bad here just because his guy made the play and it’s something he will need to work on to be a complete blocker. Bad

26 pass – WR screen to Sammy for not much. Brown shoots out quickly but doesn’t get there in time to get a block.
Good AA of where he is supposed to be. Maybe needs to work on finding someone to block a little better. Good.

27 pass – quick pass to Kupp to the left for 1st down. Brown initial good setup to block 94 then gets off balance and loses his man. Would have been sack or pressure if it wasn’t a quick pass. Need to work on staying balanced and locking on with hands. Bad.

28 pass – play action pass to Everett to the right. Another student body left for the Oline. Brown sells it fine. Good.

29 pass – Sammy TD drop. Brown fighting hard with 94. Mirrors good but gets pushed off balance. A little shaky but does the job of giving Goff just enough time. Good.

30 pass – underneath to Malcom. Initial block on 94 Who stunts with #47, Brown seamlessly switched picking up 47 perfectly and stonewalls 47 backwards for perfect team pass pro. Very good.

31 run – shoots out and power blocks #57 out of the play. Moves 57 completely out of play with power and hand usage. Very good.

32 pass – Brown blocks 94 into Havenstein on handoff then picks up 97 perfectly. Good.

33 pass – quick pass to Kupp bringing on Fg unit. Brown fires out to try to pickup a block for Kupp on the WR screen. Nothing to block. Nice AA. Good.

End of first half. Brown done for the night.