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    Rams QB Jared Goff erased several doubts with his play in 2017

    VINCENT BONSIGNORE

    link: https://www.ocregister.com/2018/01/10/bonsignore-jared-goff-erased-several-doubts-with-his-play-in-2017/

    The Rams weren’t exactly hiding their intentions last January when they hired Sean McVay as their new head coach.

    Yes, they recognized in the youngest head coach in NFL history the type of leader they felt necessary to lift their franchise out of more than two decades of non-winning seasons.

    And while his age (he was 31 when he was hired) might have been a red flag for some teams, the Rams saw it as a benefit. If, as they truly believed, he was the home-run hire they suspected, he’d solidify not just the short term future but the long range one they deem so vital to successfully incorporating themselves back into the crowded L.A. sports market.

    But there were other motives as well.

    Not yet a year removed from investing six draft picks in moving to the top of the 2016 draft to select Cal quarterback Jared Goff, then watching anxiously as Goff got buried underneath the ineptness of former head coach Jeff Fisher’s outdated offense, they knew they needed a vibrant and contemporary offensive mind and teacher to better insure Goff maximized his skill set.

    McVay was tutored under the watchful eye of Jon and Jay Gruden and Mike Shanahan — all offensive leaning head coaches — and was widely lauded for assisting in the impressive ascent of Kirk Cousins from fourth-round afterthought to Pro Bowl quarterback.

    And as he huddled with Rams brass during the interview process, McVay articulated a thorough plan explaining how he’d go about nurturing Goff from the struggling rookie he appeared in 2016 to the very top of his ceiling. Part of it was surrounding Goff with respected and proven offensive coaches and teachers — and a better offensive system to match — and improving the talent infrastructure around him. Specifically along the offensive line and at wide receiver.

    By improving Goff’s support system and putting him in better positions to tap into his particular skill set, McVay believed the second-year quarterback would squash the hasty presumption he was destined for a disappointing career.

    McVay wasn’t just saying that, either. Part of the lure of coaching the Rams, he’d often explain, was working with a young quarterback he was a fan of, even after studying film of him struggling as a rookie. McVay believed in the 23-year-old Goff. Enough to stake his first career head coaching job on Goff’s potential and his own plan to help him reach it.

    Los Angeles Rams head coach Sean McVay, right, with quarterback Jared Goff (16) look on as a play is reviewed in the first half of a Wild Card NFL football playoff game against the Atlanta Falcons at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum on Sunday, Jan. 06, 2018 in Los Angeles. (Photo by Keith Birmingham, Pasadena Star-News/SCNG)
    Rams coach Sean McVay, left, said quarterback Jared Goff showed a firm grasp of the offense and built a solid foundation for growth in 2017. (Photo by Keith Birmingham, Pasadena Star-News/SCNG)
    All of which made McVay’s first season at the helm largely about one thing, even if it didn’t necessarily correlate to many more wins: The development of young Jared Goff.

    As we now know, the concept of expediting Goff’s development and winning football games were not mutually exclusive. The Rams rose out of nowhere to win their first NFC West title since 2004, and Goff completely altered the “bust” narrative so many would-be experts slapped on him after a rough rookie season.

    As contemporary jargon would put it, that’s a win-win.

    The Rams now know they have a high-end NFL quarterback who, at 23, should only get better. One presently capable of leading a football team to the playoffs and, presumably, beyond.

    “He has to keep studying and keep it going. But it’s only going to get him better,” said wide receiver Robert Woods. “For him to start off like that, with McVay and this new offense, and deliver as he did, I think it’s just a great start for his future.”

    Said linebacker Alec Ogletree: “He’s a tremendous competitor, and you grow each year. The more you play, the better you’re going to get at something. The more you practice, all that stuff. There’s room for everybody on this team to grow, and he’s doing his part being a great quarterback for us.”

    Right or wrong, hasty or not, Goff very much faced a prove-it season this year. And after the Rams did everything in their power to help insure he measured up to it, from the hiring of McVay and his staff, and the addition of talented teammates in Woods, Sammy Watkins, Cooper Kupp and Andrew Whitworth, let’s just say he did so decisively.

    “That he can do it, that he can lead this football team,” Rams guard Jamon Brown said Goff proved this year. “I think he’s gotten the confidence of everybody in this locker room. Everybody feels confident in him and the growth that he’s made and the direction that he’s headed. So he’s definitely been a leader, and that was a big step for him.”

    Goff’s final stat line only tells part of the story, although it’s impossible not to be impressed with the 3,804 yards he threw for, or the 62.7 completion percentage, or the 28 touchdowns against just seven interceptions, or the 8.0 yards per completion average.

    All of which blew away the numbers he posted during the seven starts he made in 2016.

    Goff also proved to be durable — starting 15 straight games and only missing the final game of the regular season as a precaution against injury ahead of the postseason — and coachable and astute in immediately grasping McVay’s system to the point of mastering it. By the second half of the season, Goff was becoming more and more comfortable managing situations at the line of scrimmage and, unlike many young quarterbacks, displaying an advanced level in read progression, play calling and game planning.

    “Really just kind of understanding the intent of the play calls – where he can almost kind of predict some of the calls that are coming in based on the situation that he’s got so much ownership on,” McVay said. “Here’s our priority third down calls in this area, red zone, some of our priority first and second down calls.

    “In a lot of instances, he’d probably be able to tell you guys that before the play has come in, he’s able to kind of predict that because we are so much on the same page, and I think that’s only going to continue to grow as we get more experienced together with our coaches and with Jared.”

    Just as important, in talking to teammates, he was confident and assertive as a leader and never seemed intimidated by whatever moment was at hand.

    For a young quarterback facing so many critical questions just a few months ago, the season could not have gone much better for Goff.

    And it creates a strong foundation from which to keep moving forward.

    “I think it allows him to go into the offseason program with a lot of confidence,” McVay said. “ A lot of things that we’ll be able to pick out specifically what we feel like are going to be key focal points and points of emphasis for him, but in terms of leading, just playing the position, the command overall … very pleased with Jared and I thought he had a good year.”

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    #80148
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    Goff on Donald attacking the pocket: “I’ve never seen anything like it.”

    #80149
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    Blue and Gold wrote:

    Goff’s going to be fine, more than fine. Rams didn’t lose to Atlanta because of him.

    For one, there were not open guys like there have been. Falcons played the route concepts well, and Goff threw some really good balls, several of them. But McVay, right now, has only the one offense. He liked 11 personnel and likes 3 by 1 and likes the bunch to be tight. He does some other things, but the word was they do the same things over and over but from different looks, ATL saw this and adjusted so they didn’t see a new formation or motion and expect a different route concept and they had our guys covered. Credit to the defense.

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    Rams expecting another step forward for Jared Goff

    Alden Gonzalez

    http://www.espn.com/blog/los-angeles-rams/post/_/id/37409/rams-expecting-another-step-forward-for-jared-goff

    THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. — Jared Goff surprised many in his second season, going from one of the worst rookie quarterbacks in recent memory to an eventual Pro Bowler in a stacked conference.

    Did he surprise himself?

    “No,” Goff said. “I always knew what I could do.”

    From 2016 to 2017, Goff, the Los Angeles Rams’ 2016 No. 1 overall pick, made significant strides in completion percentage (54.6 to 62.1), yards per attempt (5.3 to 8.0), touchdown-to-interception ratio (0.71 to 4.00) and passer rating (63.6 to 100.5). He finished 296-of-477, throwing for 3,804 yards, 28 touchdowns and seven interceptions in the regular season, before being eliminated by the Atlanta Falcons in the wild-card round this past Saturday night.

    Robert Woods, a preferred target, expects Goff to get “a lot” better heading into his third year.

    “He’s 23,” Woods noted. “This was really like his first year playing, first year getting experience.”

    “It’s only his second year, so, yeah, there’s definitely a lot of [room for] improvement,” running back Todd Gurley said. “We have to get better around him to help him improve, as well.”

    Goff’s year-to-year improvement had a lot to do with those around him.

    He operated behind a better offensive line, bolstered by the additions of left tackle Andrew Whitworth and center John Sullivan, which helped Goff go from 26 sacks in seven games as a rookie to 25 sacks in 15 games as a second-year player. He threw to a more dynamic group of receivers, including Woods, Sammy Watkins and Cooper Kupp, a trio that combined to haul in 65.4 percent of its targets for 2,243 yards and 18 touchdowns. Most importantly, he ran a more nuanced, quarterback-friendly scheme that was overseen by first-year head coach Sean McVay and helped the Rams become the first team in the Super Bowl era to go from last to first in scoring.

    But Goff himself also showed his teammates something.

    “That he can do it; that he can lead this football team,” right guard Jamon Brown said. “I think he’s gotten the confidence of everybody in this locker room. Everybody feels confident in him and the growth that he’s made and the direction that he’s headed.”

    Woods was most impressed with Goff’s “mental toughness, how he stands in the pocket.”

    “That was one thing I saw before coming here,” Woods said. “He took some shots early, but he always stood in the pocket and trusted his receivers to get open.”

    Goff completed 71.9 percent of his passes when he operated within a clean pocket, sixth-highest among the 32 quarterbacks who took enough snaps to qualify. But he completed only 34.4 percent of his passes while under duress, which ranked 29th. Operating under pressure stands out as a major target for improvement. So does ball security, with Goff fumbling eight times this past season.

    Speaking Sunday, Goff said there are “a lot of different things” he will look to shore up. But it was too early in his offseason to narrow the list down.

    “I feel like I made some good steps,” Goff said, “but a lot of work to do.”

    He’ll remain in Los Angeles throughout the year, just like he did last year, and will once again spend some of his time before organized team activities working out at the acclaimed quarterback training facility 3DQB. McVay believes playing a full season will be a major benefit for Goff, just like having a full offseason benefited him last year.

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    from Final NFL QB Rankings by PFF Player Grades, 2017

    PFF

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/final-nfl-qb-rankings-by-pff-player-grades-2017?utm_content=bufferd01c7&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=nfl

    18. JARED GOFF, LOS ANGELES RAMS – 79.8 OVERALL GRADE

    Excerpt from the PFF QB Annual: There is no hiding the giant leap forward taken by Jared Goff in his sophomore campaign under new head coach Sean McVay. Goff’s overall PFF grade improved from a disastrous 45.6 as a rookie to 79.8 this season, an increase of more than 30.0 points. His best games this season were excellent, and he manned the helm of one of the league’s best offenses, but there were still poor outings that he will hope to eradicate in 2018 and beyond.

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    PFF ranks Goff below 17 other QBs, i see. Below Winston, Mariotta, Bortles, Prescott, etc.

    I wonder how they’d rank McV’s scheme.

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    PFF ranks Goff below 17 other QBs, i see. Below Winston, Mariotta, Bortles, Prescott, etc.

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    from LMU93

    Ranking QB play the way sites like PFF do will always still be somewhat subjective. None of these are gospel. But if you look around at others you can get a general sense of what a QB really is. FootballOutsiders rated him 6th overall in 2017: [www.footballoutsiders.com: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb ]. ESPN’s QBR system rates him 16th: [www.espn.com: http://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr ]. Average these three out and he’s about….13th.. That sounds about right to me.

    Purely statistically Goff was top-10 across the board: QB Rating (5th), yards/attempt (3rd), yards/completion (1st), TD% (4th), INT% (7th), completion% (17th), yards/game (10th).

    But is Goff a solidly top 10 NFL QB right now? Probably not…yet. But the way he has ascended under McVay and LaFleuer (and Olson) was so impressive and he’s clearly not a finished product. You watch guys like Brady and Rodgers who are SO established in and masters of their systems go to their 2nd and then 3rd reads in nanoseconds. Goff does not do that yet. He holds the ball too long on occasion because he is still relatively new to the offense. But he already is better at going to his 2nd read than Bradford ever was. And to me he also learned to throw the ball away better as the season progressed.

    Goff goes into 2018 able to focus on the nuances of his mechanics and his offense- not learning the basics of them. That’s a big difference for him. Under McVay Kirk Cousins improved his QB rating by 15 points in his 2nd season as a starter. Now I highly doubt Goff is going to go from 100.5 to 115.5 next year. But clearly he’s on the right path and assuming they keep the talent around him and keep protecting him well I love where he’s heading.

    He’s clearly better than QBs PFF ranks above him like Taylor, Bortles, Mariota, etc. And by the way I don’t think Garropolo qualifies since he only had 4 “real” starts. His 5th was a preseason game (and he threw two INTs in it anyway). No one can tell me JG is a top-10 NFL QB right now…

    #80302
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    “He has to keep studying and keep it going. But it’s only going to get him better,” said wide receiver Robert Woods. “For him to start off like that, with McVay and this new offense, and deliver as he did, I think it’s just a great start for his future.”

    “Really just kind of understanding the intent of the play calls – where he can almost kind of predict some of the calls that are coming in based on the situation that he’s got so much ownership on,” McVay said. “Here’s our priority third down calls in this area, red zone, some of our priority first and second down calls.

    “In a lot of instances, he’d probably be able to tell you guys that before the play has come in, he’s able to kind of predict that because we are so much on the same page, and I think that’s only going to continue to grow as we get more experienced together with our coaches and with Jared.”

    He does some other things, but the word was they do the same things over and over but from different looks, ATL saw this and adjusted so they didn’t see a new formation or motion and expect a different route concept and they had our guys covered. Credit to the defense.

    Goff goes into 2018 able to focus on the nuances of his mechanics and his offense- not learning the basics of them. That’s a big difference for him.

    goff needs to keep pushing himself. mcvay will keep pushing him and he’ll expand the offense.

    should be interesting to watch.

    • This reply was modified 4 days, 8 hours ago by InvaderRam InvaderRam.
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    Top 5 Jared Goff Plays in 2017

    Check out Los Angeles Rams QB Jared Goff’s best plays from the 2017 season.

    http://www.therams.com/videos/videos/Top-5-Jared-Goff-Plays-in-2017/63e41bb4-851e-490c-ab35-ff67e4cc99e8

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    link: http://www.profootballwriters.org/2018/01/19/chargers-allen-pfwa-comeback-player-year-rams-goff-improved-player-year/

    Los Angeles Rams quarterback Jared Goff, who threw for 28 touchdowns, was selected as the 2017 NFL Most Improved Player of the Year

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    link: http://www.profootballwriters.org/2018/01/19/chargers-allen-pfwa-comeback-player-year-rams-goff-improved-player-year/

    Los Angeles Rams quarterback Jared Goff, who threw for 28 touchdowns, was selected as the 2017 NFL Most Improved Player of the Year

    some damn good players on that list.

    2004 – drew brees
    2007 – frank gore
    2014 – le’veon bell

    there’s others. but those three really stand out.

    #80344
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    also. if you look at brees’ stats after that year, he actually took a couple steps back before becoming a truly elite qb.

    i wouldn’t be surprised to see goff take a couple steps back before he truly establishes himself. especially as mcvay puts more responsibility on him going forward.

    we’ll see.

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