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June 16, 2015 at 7:44 pm #26410znModerator
Rams Head Coach Jeff Fisher – June 16, 2015
(On if he accomplished everything he set out to accomplish thus far into OTAs)
“Yeah. We’ve got tomorrow. We’re going to get some work done and then we’ve got Thursday. I feel like from an installation standpoint, we’ve introduced a lot of situations to them. We’re happy to say we’ve got the rookies caught up. They’ve yet to lift with the vets, but they’re caught up on the field. I think the rookie class is doing an outstanding job mentally. We’re very fortunate right now that we haven’t had any setbacks on the practice field. Haven’t had a single soft tissue issue or anything. Had a couple guys that we’re resting, that we’re still kind of rehabbing and bringing along – day-on day-off type of thing, but I think we’re in pretty good shape.”(On his early impressions on how Frank Cignetti is handling the offensive coordinator job)
“Oh, it’s coming. It’s all coming, I think the players will tell you that. We shortened the play calls from a terminology standpoint. We have some flexibility to do some things, I think, that match-up better with our personnel, we’re just going to continue to work with it. Nick has done a good job. A good mark of where you are offensively is when someone like Sean Mannion comes in and he’s been here for a month and he has a good feel for it. So, it kind of gives you a sense that what they’re teaching is easily absorbed and translated to the field.”(On if he’s comfortable saying that he wants QB Nick Foles around long-term or if he is still letting it play out)
“We’ve had some discussions. It was noted here, I guess, yesterday. But yeah, I think what Nick has done early in his career, he’s proven he can get the job done on the field. With the numbers that he put up at the end with Andy (Reid) and then his first year there it was very impressive. He’s carried things on here and so we’re going to continue to talk and see if we can get something that’s good for both sides.”(On if he’s confident that he can re-sign the players whose contracts expire at the end of the season)
“There’s some discussions. We’ve already started discussions. I feel good about it, yeah. I know they want to come back, so I feel good about it.”(On if feels good about going into the season with his current group of offensive linemen assuming that Greg Robinson and Rodger Saffold are ready to go)
“They’re going to be ready to go so that’s not going to be an issue. We don’t have a lot of experience at the center position, but you gain experience by playing. We’ll make that decision at some point. Like I said, I’m pleased with the flexibility. I’m pleased with where ‘JB’ (Jamon Brown) is right now at the guard spot. Rob (Havenstein) has been solid at right tackle. They’re not making mistakes. Again, it’s so early because you don’t have the pads on. I think they will probably improve significantly when the pads go on because it stalemates a little bit with the defense. Defense wins right now. That’s just how OTAs are. Defense is going to win.”(On if he still looks outside for veteran offensive linemen)
“Well, we’re keeping a lookout. We’ll see what happens.”(On training in Oxnard, Calif. during training camp and what he hopes to get out of it)
“Yeah, we visited with the Cowboys months ago. I visited with (Cowboys Head Coach) Jason (Garrett) and it’s going to work. Once the preseason schedule came out, it made sense for us to just kind of shoot down after the Friday night game at Oakland down to LA and then we move out to the Thousand Oaks area. We’ll practice with them at training camp for a couple of days and then we’re also going to use their facility on Wednesday and then come back. It kind of shortens camp up a little bit, but it’s the first time that this group has been through that experience and to have an opportunity to practice against another team, a good football team, I think we would benefit from it.”(On why the team opted to practice against the Cowboys during training camp when considering fans’ concerns of the team moving to Los Angeles)
“The two are not related. The Cowboys have practiced against somebody just about every year. Their facility is as such that it welcomes another team. We talked to a number of teams besides the Cowboys about working together with them, and the Cowboys were really the only one that worked out.”(On getting off to a fast start and if practicing against the Cowboys will help the team do that when the regular season begins)
“Hopefully, big picture I think it will help us. We wouldn’t do it if we didn’t think it would be beneficial. What it does for you, depending on the play time for the starters in the first preseason game, this creates another opportunity for them to compete and get better aside from preseason games when you’re in a full-padded practice against another opponent.”(On LB Akeem Ayers, what he likes about him and what he can add to the defense)
“Akeem, in Tennessee played behind the ball and he rushed and he did everything. Then at New England he primarily was a rusher. Did some dropping, but was primarily a rusher. He’s got the ability and as you know in our defense, our linebackers are blitzers and they rush. He’s got the ability to do both. He’s a big man and he runs well. He’s a smart kid and he’s strong and so I think he fits.”(On if Ayers’ experience winning a Super Bowl adds value to a young locker room)
“I think in time, but I don’t think he’s going to stand up and say anything now about it. But we’re all happy for anyone that comes in the building that’s had that experience. I think in time it would be beneficial, but we’ll let him choose that time.”(On the competition for the backup quarterback job)
“It’s going to be good. We’ve got to get Nick the reps, but we’re going to try to balance the reps out and just see what happens. Sean’s (Mannion) new. Austin (Davis) and Case (Keenum) have both won games in the league, so I think it will be a good battle.”(On his message to players when they get ready to break before training camp)
“Well, it starts with wave runners then it moves over to four wheelers then it goes to family picnics and all that stuff, water skiing and all that. Then it goes into the off-the-field stuff and be smart. Those messages are being sent as we speak.”(On if he worries about the players during the break between OTAs and training camp)
“We basically throw the stats up. We have statistics by position groups. I have statistics based on months and years of experience in the league. I’ll just say (Defensive Coordinator) Coach (Gregg) Williams has his hands full.”(On the social media training the team will undertake)
“Throughout camp, we have a number of presentations for the players. We’ll have a media presentation, we’ll have a security presentation. We don’t broadcast them, but it’s part of what we do. We decided, we feel like social media is becoming a little separate than the media presentation and that it requires its own focus. We’ve got a good group in here to talk to them about what would be the appropriate and inappropriate things that take place while you’re using social media. We’re monitoring it. We just don’t want to have to make that midnight phone call where you have to say, ‘Take it down.’”(On if someone on staff monitors the players’ social media)
“Yes.”(On if that person has ever reported something to him that he didn’t like)
“We’ve had some discussions. We’ve had some stuff. Yeah, one or two.”(On if he thinks RB Todd Gurley will be ready for the start of camp)
“It’s hard to say right now. I can’t predict that. I know he’s doing well. He had a day off today because he’s doing so well. He’ll be around. He’ll rehab with us during the break. We’re also going to give him his time off because he’s entitled to his time off to go home for a few days. We’re just going to see how he progresses. We have options, which are the PUP things and we just have to see where he is. If he’s not PUP-ed then I think you could probably assume that he’s going to play sooner than you think.”(On TE/FB Corey Harkey re-signing with the team this offseason)
“It’s great to have ‘Hark’ back. He really took on a leadership role in the special teams room and really all over, for that matter. It’s just great to have him back. He’s one of those guys you trust. He’s out every day. He’s tough. He makes plays. It’s good that we got at least another year.”Rams Offensive Coordinator Frank Cignetti – June 16, 2015
(On what he’s seen out of the offense through OTAs)
“We’ve had a great offseason. When you look at phase 1, phase 2 and now the OTAs, the coaches and players have done a great job learning in the classroom, bringing it from the classroom out to the field. Every day we step out here, we see continual growth. It’s a process. We’ll take the OTAs right into training camp. Right now we’re very pleased with the effort and what the players have been giving us. It’s been outstanding.”(On how anxious he was to get the players on the field prior to OTAs)
“As you all know, time goes fast. We needed the time as an offensive staff to prepare for the players. So for us the time was great. As the time goes on, you can’t wait for the players to get here and teach the game and take it from the classroom to the field. It’s been outstanding.”(On QB Nick Foles)
“I tell you, Nick Foles first off is an unbelievable person – high character, great leadership. He does a great job in the classroom, great job in the locker room. He’s able to take the teaching from the classroom to the field. Every day you’ve seen that Nick has gotten better. (QB Coach) Chris Weinke has done a great job with him, has the whole group of quarterbacks working together. I love Nick Foles.”(On the expectations for the offensive line)
“The expectation is you’re competing for jobs out here. Sure it’s a transition from college football to the National Football League, but once again, that’s why you have the different phases, the OTAs. They’ll be a step ahead for training camp. (Offensive Line) Coach (Paul) Boudreau and (Assistant Offensive Line) Coach (Andy) Dickerson have done a great job training them. They’re doing a great job in the classroom. That’s where it starts. Then once again, you see them bringing it out here to the practice field, making improvements every day.”(On not having T Greg Robinson and G Rodger Saffold for the team periods in OTAs)
“I don’t think it’s a setback. You know what? First off, you’ve got to be healthy to play the game. So, they’re on schedule. It’s a great plan for them to be successful when they step on the field for training camp and it give the other guys an opportunity to get better.”(On G Jamon Brown and T Rob Havenstein)
“Once again, you’re talking about great kids, really good players. Once again, it’s a process. Every day you want to see these young men come out here and continue to get better, which is what we’ve seen.”(On if his transition to offensive coordinator has been made easier by the fact that he’s been on the Rams’ staff for three previous years)
“It’s helps tremendously because it starts with the staff. We have a tremendous offensive staff. We’ve added Chris Weinke and Jeff Garcia to the staff. Barrett Trotter is joining us, so the existing staff and myself, we knew each other. We’re very comfortable with each other. We knew the players. The players knew us. So, the transition was very smooth for all of us. It’s been exciting. The bottom line is, it’s a group effort. We all want to put each other in a position to make each other successful. We come out here every day and we prepare our players to be successful.”(On if all of the playbook is all in at this point)
“I don’t know if the playbook’s ever fully in. But sure, most of the concepts in the running game, in the protection phase and the passing game have been installed.”(On how much different the offense will look this year)
“It’s like this: (Former Offensive Coordinator) Coach (Brian) Schottenheimer put a tremendous foundation in place here. It’s like buying a house. The foundation is there. You guys buy a house, what do you do? Let’s remodel a couple rooms. Really, that’s what we’ve done. The foundation of the system hasn’t changed. All we’ve done is put our personal touches in different areas and frankly, if Coach Schottenheimer was here, that’s what you do as a staff every year. You look at it and you continually look for ways to improve.”(On getting WR Tavon Austin more involved)
“Tavon Austin’s had a great offseason. Tremendous. It starts in the classroom. He’s learning, he’s paying attention. He’s bringing it to the practice field. You can just see it from his route running. What a difference. His effort, his attention to details. Every day out here, the guy’s made plays. Tavon’s had a great offseason and he’ll continue that into training camp.”(On how Austin fits into the offense considering the expectation that the Rams want to be a power running team)
“Tavon Austin’s a wide receiver. I wouldn’t say he’s a change of pace guy. He’s a guy you can put out there every down and the defense has to recognize, ‘Hey, Tavon’s on the field.’ So, whether it’s running down-the-field routes, intermediate routes, short routes or manipulating him touches, the defense always has to be aware of where’s Tavon Austin.”(On the makeup of the quarterback group)
“You know what? It’s a great room. You’re talking about four tremendous, not only quarterbacks, but people. Austin Davis, fourth year with us, knows the system. Runs the offense, very competitive. Case (Keenum) is the same way. Case spent a lot of time with us last year. Then he went back to the Texans and won some games. Case knows what we expect. He’s able to come out here, perform every day and run the offense, and Sean (Mannion) is learning it. Sean was very well coached in college. (Former Oregon State Head Coach) Mike Riley and the crew did a great job with Sean, so he had a pro background, which makes his transition a little easier with what we’re doing. Once again, every day Sean’s learning in the classroom and bringing it out here to the field. So, when you look at all four, it’s a really strong group.”(On what it’s been like being an NFL offensive coordinator)
“Well I love it. I always have. I love just leading the group. I love trying to put people in a position to be successful. I love the schematics of the game, the organization of being a coordinator. The ability to come out here and try to motivate the group. It’s just something I’ve always enjoyed doing. Make no mistake, it’s a team effort. Like I said, we’ve got a tremendous offensive staff here. We’ve worked together for a fourth year. This is our offense and my hat goes off to the work that the staff has done.”(On not having RB Todd Gurley available for OTAs)
“I don’t think it’s a setback because I think it’s the same thing when you look at Greg (Robinson) and Rodger (Saffold). The most important thing for a player is to be healthy. First things first, let’s get Todd healthy. Let’s get him acclimated. Then he’ll be ready to be successful.”(On if he’s changed his coaching style since his promotion)
“No, I think if you ask the players, I haven’t changed. Every day is a blessing. I come to work trying to have fun, trying to do the best job I can teaching. I come out on the field and enjoy the game of football. I’ve been around it my whole life. I’m a coach’s kid. I’ve been on this field since I was five, six years old. I’m comfortable on the field, in the locker room. I can’t get enough of it.”Rams QB Nick Foles – Tuesday, June 16
(On where he is at as far as learning the playbook)
“I feel really comfortable with this offense. There’s always going to be new things you’re going to learn. Whether it’s studying the defense with our certain players, like what we want to run against. Each play based on front and coverage, it can change. So, it’s just continuing to learn and continuing to grow to where it’s just second nature. To where I feel extremely comfortable just seeing everything, but it’s getting there.”(On Offensive Coordinator Frank Cignetti saying that he has been getting better every day)
“Yes, definitely. I think I’ve gotten a little bit better every day. I just need to continue to do that. We have a phase two day tomorrow and then another OTA to just continue to progress. Then every day on, continue to get better, continue to gain knowledge and continue to work on fundamentals and get the timing down with everything.”(On what he will do during the break)
“During the break, I continue to study the playbook. Study the installs, watch the film of the practices… We’re going to be going against our defense a little bit during camp, so studying them, studying a little bit of Seattle and getting ready for preseason, so there’s always going to be stuff to work on. Then, of course, workout and do the fundamentals, drops, throwing and all of that.”(On if he plans to get together formally with any receivers during the break)
“We’re going to see what happens during that break, see if any guys are near. But at the same time, I use that break to spend time with family because once training camp gets here it’s football every day until the end of the season. We’ll see what happens. If there’s a couple guys in the same city, I’m sure we’ll get together to throw. If not, we’ll stay in touch and continue to talk and continue the relationship building.”(On where his permanent residence is)
“I don’t have a permanent residence. I have not purchased a home or anything. I have family in Texas, California, Oregon. Just wherever family is, I train. I would say my main home right now is here. This is the only place we have.”(On if he has a home in St. Louis)
“I have a place. I’ve never purchased anything, I’ve always rented. My wife and I always have. We have a great place here that we found thanks to her.”(On Coach Fisher saying that he already feels comfortable with him that would like to keep him around long term and if this team is a place he would like to stay)
“Yes, I felt like this was home from when I got here and got to meet the guys and talk to the coaches. That’s nothing against Philly. I had a great time in Philly and I built strong relationships. But, just how the team was when they brought me in here and how they treated me, and how my teammates have helped me grow and just the relationships that I’ve built – I want to be here. This is where I want to play. As a player, you want to be somewhere and you want to play there the rest of your career. This is where I want to be, but that’s why we have agents. My most important thing right now is just to continue to work with my teammates and continue to be the best player and person I can be, so we’ll see what happens. I want to be here. I love Coach Fisher and the staff and everybody in this building, so I’m very fortunate to be here.”(On if because he’s coming off a year where he dealt with an injury, if he looks at this year as an opportunity to bet on himself in order to get the best contract next season)
“No. Whatever happens with that, happens. I’m going to be the same person no matter what it is. The number sign is not going to change the way I play the game. I’m going to play with all my heart. It’s about my teammates and building those relationships and just being a player that helps people grow. The money sign won’t change that. I want to be here and that’s the most important thing.”(On if his agent keeps him up-to-date with what’s going on or if he tells him to let him know when he needs to know something)
“Yes, that’s what we hire agents to do. They really do that for us because right now my focus is learning this offense and coming out here and progressing and executing these plays. It’s not that part, that’s why we have the agents that we do and they do a great job of it. I count on them to do that and they count on me to come out here and just be me.”(On working with the young offensive linemen)
“I think every day they continue to grow. All of the young guys, it doesn’t matter whether it’s O-line, receivers, Sean (Mannion) at the quarterback position, you can just see that every day they get more and more comfortable. The thing that I tell them is, when I was there a few years ago, I know what it feels like. I know that if a bad play happens, how you feel . And it’s just learning each day and just trying to get a little bit better each and every day. And they have done that. The pocket’s looking good. They’re going against a great defense right now and they’re doing a really good job. They’ve gotten better each day and they’ll just have to continue to do every day, here on out.”(On if the D-line is starting to have less success against the O-line in comparison to the start of OTAs)
“Yes, the O-line is really getting the hang of it. They’re getting more comfortable. We don’t have pads on right now, so it gets difficult on those guys to pick up those D-linemen because those guys are coming, they’re pushing hard and they’re making them work hard. But the O-line is really excelling, so I’m proud of them.”(On if he was wondering what was going on with the O-line the first week of OTAs)
“No, I know it’s a process. That’s why it’s just on to the next play. I try to work through the pocket, move around a little bit because it’s going to happen like that in games at times where the pocket is not going to be as clean as you like, so it’s good for me to work on moving around being able to keep my eyes down the field and making the throw.”(On if he has had a chance to get out around St. Louis)
“I’ve been here (Rams Park) a lot. I probably go home and here and that’s about it. I’m really trying to get this playbook down and get the work in.”(On what he says to people that say he’s a product of the system in Philadelphia)
“I don’t really worry about that. People are going to say what they’re going to say. They always have throughout my entire career. Each and every player deals with it. The way I do is I’m just going to play. I know who I am. I know what kind of player I am and my job is to help my team win games. There’s always going to be that…excel to get better, but it’s not from people saying stuff. I could care less. I want to be the best player for my team and that’s all I need. I can see it in my teammates’ eyes and I want to be that player that helps them, so that’s all I need.”(On if he got the feeling that defenses figured something out about him last year, which dropped his numbers)
“I think people look at numbers so much that you forget that we were at the top of the NFC East at the time. I definitely turned over the ball a few times, but it was facing the adversity that you continue to fight through it. We were able to come back, and I think four of those games we were down by double digits and the team was able to rally back and win those games. I look at that as, although those stats weren’t as good it’s about the team. It’s about rallying through. If we turn it over, the defense has our back and we have to go down there and put points on the board when we get the ball back. It’s just facing adversity and what are you going to do when something bad happens. I’ve never been a stat guy. I could care less about stats. I care about the wins and it doesn’t matter how you do it. Of course, you don’t want to throw interceptions or do that, but if you throw a couple and you get the ‘W’, I’d take that over throwing five touchdowns and losing.”(On what it has been like working with Cignetti)
“He’s always enthusiastic. He’s always full of energy. He’s a guy who gives us a lot of options out there. I’ve really enjoyed the relationship with him and (Quarterbacks Coach) Chris (Weinke). He’s a really intelligent coach. He’s been around a long time and has coached a lot of football. He loves football, so it’s fun for all of us quarterbacks to be around him and gain that knowledge, but the fact that he gives us a lot of leeway in the offense.”(On what the process has been like building relationships with the receivers and how have those improved the last couple weeks)
“I think it’s been great. There’s a great group of receivers that really want to excel each and every day. It’s just getting on the same page. It’s talking about routes. It’s talking about what I want them to do verse different coverages, where to expect the ball and they’ve been awesome. And I want them to talk to me and tell me what they see and, you know, I’m going to listen because I want that relationship to be two ways. They’ve been awesome.”(On his thoughts on social media)
“I have a Twitter account, but that’s the only account I have. It’s verified. I don’t use it much at all. But, I’m not a big fan of social media, to be honest. That’s sort of what it’s come to, especially with marketing and marketing is a big part. That’s one of those things that you really have to be careful because once it’s out there, it’s out there. You can’t erase it. It’s going to be screen captured. So, if you don’t have anything good to say, don’t say anything at all.”June 17, 2015 at 12:51 am #26418znModeratorRams’ Fisher says rookies are up to speed and ready to roll
Elisabeth Meinecke
FOX Sports MidwestST. LOUIS — The Rams are wrapping up their final week of OTAs, and the coaching staff has a warning for the group.
Don’t be an accident waiting to happen.
That’s right, Rams players are currently getting the lecture about activities that may prove injurious to their physical health this summer. Things like Wave Runners. Four-wheelers. Water skiing. Heck, maybe even family picnics.
In other words, the lecture a cliff-jumping Tom Brady never got — or maybe ignored.
“We basically throw the stats up. We have statistics by position groups,” Rams coach Jeff Fisher explained. “I have statistics based on months of incidents, and years of experience in the league.”
He coyly declined to divulge which position group his research has labeled the biggest culprit.
“I’ll just say that (defensive) Coach (Gregg) Williams has his hands full,” Fisher said.
On more football-related topics, Fisher says he’s pleased with how OTAs have progressed.
“We’ve introduced a lot of situations to (the players), and we’re happy to say we got the rookies caught up,” Fisher said. “They’ve yet to lift with the vets but they’re caught up on the field, and the rookie class is doing an outstanding job mentally.”
He complimented the work rookie offensive linemen Rob Havenstein and Jamon Brown have been doing at right tackle and guard, respectively.
“They’re not making mistakes,” he said. “I think they could probably improve significantly when the pads go on because it stalemates a little bit with the defense. Defense wins right now. That’s just how OTAs are.”
Still, that doesn’t mean the Rams are opposed to adding more experience to the position group this summer — Fisher confirmed Tuesday the team was at least keeping an eye on the market for veteran offensive linemen. The Rams invested heavily in that area during the draft, using four of their nine picks to bulk up the line, which needed a right tackle, right guard, and lacked a clear-cut starter at center. Right now, the main competitors for the starting center position, while veterans, are lighter on experience — of Tim Barnes, Demetrius Rhaney and Barrett Jones, Barnes is the only one who’s actually started an NFL game at center. All things considered, more than half the line in front of Nick Foles may be fairly green this September if the roster stays as is.
Training camp schedule released
The Rams released their training camp schedule Tuesday, and in addition to scrimmaging at Lindenwood on Aug. 7, the team will hold eight open practices at Rams Park. Rookies will report to St. Louis on July 27 and veterans on July 29.
According to Fisher, it’s unclear whether first-round pick Todd Gurley, who tore his ACL last season while playing for the University of Georgia, will start training camp. Fisher said the running back will continue rehabbing in St. Louis between OTAs and training camp, although he’ll take some time off to visit family.
As part of their lead-up to the regular season, the Rams will also hold three practices in Oxnard, California, after their first preseason game against Oakland. Two of those practices will be with the Dallas Cowboys. Fisher said he and Cowboys coach Jason Garrett visited several months ago, and that once the preseason schedule came out, it made sense for the Rams to slip in the joint practices after the Oakland game.
“It’s the first time that this (Rams) group has been through that experience, and to have an opportunity to practice against another team, a good football team, I think we would benefit from it,” Fisher said. “Depending on the play time for the starters in the first preseason game, this creates another opportunity for them to compete.”
He added that the decision to hold practices on the West Coast had nothing to do with any potential relocation of the franchise next year.
“The two are not related,” Fisher said. “The Cowboys have practiced against somebody just about every year there. The facility is such that it welcomes another team. We talked (to) a number of teams besides the Cowboys about working together with them, and the Cowboys is really the only one that worked out.”
June 17, 2015 at 12:52 am #26419znModeratorCignetti Bringing Tweaks to Offense
By Myles Simmons
By now, it’s well known that the Rams have turned over control of the offense to coordinator Frank Cignetti. And while it’s still OTAs and the team has yet to take a snap in even a preseason game, the coach and players seem to be adapting to their new situations well.
“I love it. I always have,” Cignetti said after Tuesday’s OTA session. “I love trying to put people in position to be successful. I love the schematics of the game, the organization of being a coordinator, the ability to come out here and try to motivate the group. It’s just something I’ve always enjoyed doing.”
“He’s always enthusiastic. He’s always full of energy,” quarterback Nick Foles said of his offensive coordinator. “He loves football, so it’s fun for all of us quarterbacks to be around him and gain that knowledge.”
Cignetti’s fondness for leading the unit is clear from how he describes formulating the offense as a collective effort. Being in St. Louis as the team’s quarterbacks coach the last three years has helped in the process of acclimating to coordinator because the coaching staff was already familiar with one another.
“We were very comfortable with each other,” Cignetti said. “We knew the players and the players knew us, so the transition was very smooth for all of us. It’s been exciting.”
And from what the players have said so far, the team effort of adjusting the offense extends to them as well.
“It’s a collective effort by everybody, and it gives everybody a chance to give some type of input, and feel like they’re contributing something to the offense,” tight end Jared Cook said. “He trusts you as vets, and he trusts you as his players to tell you how you like certain things. And that way, he can tweak it according to how you like it, or according to how you like to run a route.”
“But he might not tweak it,” Cook continued. “He might just say, ‘This is how it is.’ But he will take your suggestions and hear you out.”
The tight end added that more ownership has translated to expanded understanding and communication on the field.
“We’re a collective. We’re here to accomplish one goal, and that’s to get that Lombardi Trophy,” Cook said. “So the more pieces that you have that can understand what’s going on and can spit it back out to you in case there is a problem, the easier it is.”
As for what the offensive changes will look like, Cignetti didn’t divulge too much in terms of what his plans are for the offense — which is to be expected on June 16. But the OC did liken what he’s brought to the unit to purchasing a new home, saying his predecessor, Brian Schottenheimer, did a good job of setting up the foundation.
“You go buy a house, what do you do? ‘Let’s remodel a couple of rooms,’” Cignetti said. “Really, that’s what we’ve done. The foundation of the system hasn’t changed. All we’ve done is put our personal touches in the different areas. And frankly, if coach Schottenheimer were still here, that’s what you’d do as a staff every year. You look at it and you continually look for ways to improve.”
Still, head coach Jeff Fisher said one of the changes Cignetti’s made is cutting down on the verbiage of the offensive playbook.
“I think the players would tell you that he’s shortened the play calls from a terminology standpoint,” Fisher said. “We have some flexibility to do some things, I think, that match up better with our personnel and we’re just going to continue to work with it.”
“A good mark of where you are offensively is when someone like Sean Mannion comes in, and he’s been here for a month, and he has a good feel for it,” Fisher added. “So that kind of gives you a sense that what they’re teaching is easily absorbed and translated to the field.”
Cignetti said while the playbook is likely never fully learned, most of the concepts in terms of protection, the run game, and passing game have been installed. That was reflected in Foles’ comment that quarterbacks seem to have a good amount of leeway on the field.
“He’s a guy who gives us a lot of options out there,” Foles said. “I feel really comfortable with this offense.”
So while the Rams have made the adjustment to Cignetti as an offensive coordinator, that doesn’t necessarily mean the coach has shifted his style.
“I think if you’d ask the players, I haven’t changed,” Cignetti said. “Every day is a blessing. I come to work trying to have fun, trying to do the best job I can of teaching, [then] come out on the field and enjoy the game of football.”
June 17, 2015 at 12:59 am #26420znModeratorRams’ Fisher says rookies are up to speed and ready to roll
Elisabeth Meinecke
FOX Sports MidwestST. LOUIS — The Rams are wrapping up their final week of OTAs, and the coaching staff has a warning for the group.
Don’t be an accident waiting to happen.
That’s right, Rams players are currently getting the lecture about activities that may prove injurious to their physical health this summer. Things like Wave Runners. Four-wheelers. Water skiing. Heck, maybe even family picnics.
In other words, the lecture a cliff-jumping Tom Brady never got — or maybe ignored.
“We basically throw the stats up. We have statistics by position groups,” Rams coach Jeff Fisher explained. “I have statistics based on months of incidents, and years of experience in the league.”
He coyly declined to divulge which position group his research has labeled the biggest culprit.
“I’ll just say that (defensive) Coach (Gregg) Williams has his hands full,” Fisher said.
On more football-related topics, Fisher says he’s pleased with how OTAs have progressed.
“We’ve introduced a lot of situations to (the players), and we’re happy to say we got the rookies caught up,” Fisher said. “They’ve yet to lift with the vets but they’re caught up on the field, and the rookie class is doing an outstanding job mentally.”
He complimented the work rookie offensive linemen Rob Havenstein and Jamon Brown have been doing at right tackle and guard, respectively.
“They’re not making mistakes,” he said. “I think they could probably improve significantly when the pads go on because it stalemates a little bit with the defense. Defense wins right now. That’s just how OTAs are.”
Still, that doesn’t mean the Rams are opposed to adding more experience to the position group this summer — Fisher confirmed Tuesday the team was at least keeping an eye on the market for veteran offensive linemen. The Rams invested heavily in that area during the draft, using four of their nine picks to bulk up the line, which needed a right tackle, right guard, and lacked a clear-cut starter at center. Right now, the main competitors for the starting center position, while veterans, are lighter on experience — of Tim Barnes, Demetrius Rhaney and Barrett Jones, Barnes is the only one who’s actually started an NFL game at center. All things considered, more than half the line in front of Nick Foles may be fairly green this September if the roster stays as is.
Training camp schedule released
The Rams released their training camp schedule Tuesday, and in addition to scrimmaging at Lindenwood on Aug. 7, the team will hold eight open practices at Rams Park. Rookies will report to St. Louis on July 27 and veterans on July 29.
According to Fisher, it’s unclear whether first-round pick Todd Gurley, who tore his ACL last season while playing for the University of Georgia, will start training camp. Fisher said the running back will continue rehabbing in St. Louis between OTAs and training camp, although he’ll take some time off to visit family.
As part of their lead-up to the regular season, the Rams will also hold three practices in Oxnard, California, after their first preseason game against Oakland. Two of those practices will be with the Dallas Cowboys. Fisher said he and Cowboys coach Jason Garrett visited several months ago, and that once the preseason schedule came out, it made sense for the Rams to slip in the joint practices after the Oakland game.
“It’s the first time that this (Rams) group has been through that experience, and to have an opportunity to practice against another team, a good football team, I think we would benefit from it,” Fisher said. “Depending on the play time for the starters in the first preseason game, this creates another opportunity for them to compete.”
He added that the decision to hold practices on the West Coast had nothing to do with any potential relocation of the franchise next year.
“The two are not related,” Fisher said. “The Cowboys have practiced against somebody just about every year there. The facility is such that it welcomes another team. We talked (to) a number of teams besides the Cowboys about working together with them, and the Cowboys is really the only one that worked out.”
June 17, 2015 at 10:12 am #26432wvParticipant“…Still, head coach Jeff Fisher said one of the changes Cignetti’s made is cutting down on the verbiage of the offensive playbook.
“I think the players would tell you that he’s shortened the play calls from a terminology standpoint,” Fisher said. “We have some flexibility to do some things, I think, that match up better with our personnel and we’re just going to continue to work with it.”….I wonder what that means exactly. WHY did they shorten the verbiage on offense. Are the Rams players dum?
Is it a bad idea to do that? Good idea?w
vJune 17, 2015 at 10:37 am #26433AgamemnonParticipantAcronyms, or lww (language without words). Maybe they hate adjectives?
http://strongfootballcoach.com/offensive-football/nfl-offensive-play-calling-terminology-simplify-minimize/
NFL Offensive Play Calling Terminology: Simplify and MinimizeNFL Play Calling Terminology
I was once a proponent of systematic play calling terminology like the NFL. This included formation adjustments, the play and tags. I even had an equation for it. It can be very flexible.
For this, Steve Jobs would beat me with his “simple stick”. Over and over again. Why? It’s flexible but it’s complex. It’s not simple.
The Future of NFL Play Calling and Terminology
The NFL will eventually meet an offensive coach who is a much better coach when it comes to communicating. With the way college coaches are calling plays, be them hand signals, 3-5 word max calls or boards with pictures, it’s truly only a matter of time. The big difference is that college football needs these systems, where NFL has the coordinator talking through a headset. So for this moment, let’s start with the actual play call in words and why they’re inefficient and how they can be simplified.
Flexibility Versus Complexity
Flexibility only matters if it’s truly understood quickly. Let’s face it, the game of football is faster than ever before. To understand something quickly, it must be succinct and simple. 8-12 word play calls take time to process. That doesn’t include snap count or anything like that either. If we could cut that in half, we not only save a split second or two on the clock, we save our players processing power for more important things, like the defensive adjustments or remembering the snap count.
What’s the Solution for NFL Play Calling Terminology
I’m not an NFL coach. I didn’t play college football. But if Apple can change the wording for MP3 players from what it technically was, specifically a “four inch, sixty gigabyte hard drive with a USB port” to “1000 songs in your pocket”… then the NFL can change “Brown Right Over 73 Chicago F arrow X curl” to “Rex Chicago Calf”.
How can this be done? Make your most used tags, motions or other adjustments and tie them together as much as possible. “F arrow x curl” is a curl/flat concept tag that is tied to the original play call (“73 Chicago” in this case), so why not make it one word, aka “calf”.
You may be thinking, okay smart guy, but what about pass protections? In the NFL, the center sets them in a lot of offenses. Heck, the Bears took over 20 into some games last year. The center can call them with the appropriate play. The center knows Chicago is a 5 step drop, he can call a five step protection. While your HS center may not know this, hopefully a full time NFL player will.
What about the formation? “Brown right over” became “Rex”. I dropped 2 words. Because of the extra time NFL players have, learning formations could become part of the meetings and be rep’d without the contact for 5 minutes before or after practice. If someone signs in the middle of the season and needs to get caught up to speed quick, his teammates could help him out. Regardless, I could argue learning an extra 20-40 formations would be easier than trying to figure out how each slight adjustment to a formation could affect a receiver. This is probably where my philosophy has changed the most since a few years ago, where I used to believe that receivers/fullbacks should adjust the formation. Quite frankly, this is something we should just make easy because while formations are important, they aren’t as important as the play. I’d rather have them thinking about the play then making sure they adjust the formation correctly.
I know Trent Dilfer would say that a formation is one thing, but personnel is another. That is the added benefit of the NFL system, so they can get personnel matchups. Or wait… can’t I just use a word like a brand of car? Maybe say it before the play? Or use a signal? Or maybe a board? This way I can have slot and flanker switch positions. That seems easier than “Brown Right Over Flip” doesn’t it? I could say “Rex Mustang” instead of all that. On Mustang, slots and flankers flip. Doesn’t matter what the call is. They flip.
You may ask about shifts and motions. That’s easy. Some NFL teams already use this method so it should be even easier. “Rex zac” means the z moves across the formation to Rex. Or vice versa (moves from his spot in Rex to somewhere across the formation).
So, if we take a sample full NFL play call, with my slot and flanker flipped now, like “Brown Right Over Flip Zac 73 Chicago F arrow X curl” (11 words), I could easily make it “Rex Mustang Zac Chicago Calf” (5 words). This has cut 6 words out of the play call, and can easily mean the same thing. Heck, if we just yelled “Mustang” to the players or used a signal (because NFL stadiums are so loud) for that after the huddle, I can cut that word out. So now we’re at 4 words, “Rex Zac Chicago Calf”. Wait… I could probably use a signal for the motion too… since we’re motioning into the called formation anyway so it ultimately doesn’t matter to anyone besides that receiver or the QB. So… “Rex Chicago Calf”…3 words. Mustang and Zac can come separate if the need arises.
So what have we learned? By simply packaging tags and simplifying formations, you can suddenly and drastically impact the simplicity of a play call. But… OUCH… Steve Jobs hit me with the “simple stick” again…
Why Signals and Boards are Still Useful in the NFLWhy did Steve Jobs hit me again? He would look at my process. The offensive coordinator/QB relationship through their headset specifically. Despite the occasional glitch, it’s inefficient for play calling reasons. Why is it inefficient? I’ve added an unnecessary user interaction. My other 10 players on the field have eyes and ears, don’t they? They can see signals from the sideline. They can see a board, or whatever the next cool looking thing will be.
If my play call can be 5 words, then I can easily use 5 quick hand signals. Defensive coordinators, for the longest time at the NFL level, would use more than that and maybe even boards to signal information. So I know us offensive guys, because we are supposedly smarter after all, could do the same thing. And all 11 guys could see it, get lined up, and run the play. Some NFL teams may already be using this in no huddle situations. So why not use it all the time and just line up at the line of scrimmage, skipping the huddle all the time? I’d save my offensive linemen from running 5-10 yards after each play (maybe more even). I’d give myself more time, as the play caller, to give my QB tips through the headset as we watch the defense setup because we’re already aligned. We could easily analyze the play and do it before my “timer” runs out on the headset, if I wanted to do that kind of thing. And if we want to control the clock, we could always huddle again, as useless as that may now seem.
I know, the logical argument would be why did the defensive coordinators want a headset if the signals were so great? I think the logical reason is it’s easier… for the coordinator. Which it most definitely is. I get to make some elaborate call. Let my players decipher it. They’re being paid to do just that, aren’t they? Or, maybe the less cynical person thinks it’s so they defensive coordinator could point out tendencies and such during his allotted time, just like the offensive coordinator could do. Either way, it doesn’t really matter.
Calling plays through the headset is terribly inefficient because it slows down the process and adds an extra step. In this process, you rely on (1) a coordinator to call the play and (2) the quarterback to call the play again and (3) the other players to hear the play. In the signal system, I can (1) call the play and (2) all the players can see the play call. I mean, if you don’t believe me that eliminating user interactions is important, did you ever play that telephone game in elementary school? In it, one person would sit and say “Mr. Teacher is Awesome” and by the last person in class, 20 people later, it would be “Mr. Teacher was caught making out with Ms. Other Teacher at the Movies”. While that exaggerates the problem, it’s the truth. The more interactions you have, the more chances for error. Let’s streamline the terminology and the process NFL.
Concluding thoughts on NFL Offensive Play Calling Terminology
Some coach, probably pretty soon, will revolutionize play calling in the NFL. You may not think it’s a big deal. However, the NFL is entrenched in this position, so it may seem doubtful that it will change. They were entrenched with playbooks. Now teams like the Packers and Broncos are using iPad apps for their playbooks. It adds video in real time pretty much. Just more efficient process.
Everything can be minimized and reinvented, no matter how entrentched they are. Ask Microsoft about complexity versus simplicity… and how Apple showed how awesome simplicity could be (and how flexible it could be too). You can ask Hudl‘s competitors too the same question. Simplicity, especially flexible simplicity, always wins. It will win the NFL soon as well.
Nic names. 😉
June 17, 2015 at 11:23 am #26436HerzogParticipantGood read…very interesting.
June 17, 2015 at 11:27 am #26437znModeratorVery good find, Ag. Thanks. On simplifying. If you read up on Kelly’s offense, that’s one of his things.
The issue is getting everyone to remember what the shorthands all mean.
To me this means that Cigz is more new school, was recently a college coach -ish while Schott was doing what he had seen and been around and done since he was a qb coach in 2001.
But having said that, I think they probably would have gone through this whether Schott left or not. And in fact, Schott probably has to go through it in Georgia.
IMO, this is just part of Fisher’s new 2014 emphasis: execution. Less to know and think about, more efficient active execution.
June 17, 2015 at 12:44 pm #26442NERamParticipantI wonder what that means exactly. WHY did they shorten the verbiage on offense. Are the Rams players dum?
Is it a bad idea to do that? Good idea?w
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Whatta ya think? Is this “complex”, or simplified?
June 17, 2015 at 3:18 pm #26487znModerator5 Takeaways from Day 8 of OTAs
Myles Simmons
Aside from announcing the schedule for the Rams’ Bud Light Training Camp presented by Dr Pepper, St. Louis had head coach Jeff Fisher, offensive coordinator Frank Cignetti, and quarterback Nick Foles address the media on Tuesday afternoon. Here are five takeaways from the Rams’ eighth OTA practice.
1) The new offensive coordinator
While Fisher promoted Cignetti from quarterbacks coach to offensive coordinator early in the offseason, the new OC said he hasn’t shifted his coaching style.
“I think if you’d ask the players, I haven’t changed,” Cignetti said. “Every day is a blessing. I come to work trying to have fun, trying to do the best job I can of teaching, come out on the field and enjoy the game of football. I’ve been around it my whole life. I’m a coach’s kid. I’ve been on this field ever since I was five, six years old. I’m comfortable on the field, in the locker room. I just love it. Can’t get enough of it.”
What Cignetti has done, according to tight end Jared Cook, is foster an environment that makes the offense a collective effort.
“Football isn’t a one-man sport. It’s a team sport. So you want to hear feedback,” he said. “It’s a collective effort by everybody, and it gives everybody a chance to give some type of input and feel like they’re contributing something to the offense.”
For much more on Cignetti, check out our stlouisrams.com feature here.
2) Keeping Foles around
Fisher confirmed a Monday media report that the team was in discussions to sign its starting quarterback to a long-term contract.
“I think what Nick has done early in his career, he’s proven he can get the job done on the field,” Fisher said, adding that Foles’ performance both under Andy Reid and Chip Kelly in Philadelphia was impressive. “He’s carried things on here and so we’re going to continue to talk and see if we can get something that’s good for both sides.”
As for the quarterback himself, Foles said he lets his agent handle those discussions until something definitive develops. But the signal-caller still expressed a strong desire to stick with the club.
“I felt like this was home from when I got here and got to meet the guys and talk to the coaches,” Foles said. “That’s nothing against Philly. I had a great time in Philly and I built strong relationships. But, just how the team was when they brought me in here and how they treated me, and how my teammates have helped me grow and just the relationships that I’ve built — I want to be here. This is where I want to play.”
3) A fit for Ayers
The Rams signed linebacker Akeem Ayers as an unrestricted free agent in March after a successful stint with the Patriots last season. He was traded to New England from Tennessee, where Ayers had played under both defensive coordinator Gregg Williams and linebackers coach Frank Bush. And so far, it appears he’s adjusting well to being with St. Louis.
“Akeem, in Tennessee, played behind the ball and he rushed and he did everything,” Fisher said. “Then at New England he primarily was a rusher. Did some dropping, but was primarily a rusher. He’s got the ability and, as you know in our defense, our linebackers are blitzers and they rush. He’s got the ability to do both. He’s a big man and he runs well. He’s a smart kid and he’s strong and so I think he fits.”
For more on Ayers and how he’s bringing a championship mentality to the Rams, check out our feature on him here.
4) Training camp practices in California
The Rams and Cowboys announced on Tuesday that they’ll be linking up for two practices in Oxnard, Calif. in mid-August following the Rams’ preseason contest against the Raiders. The Rams will have an additional solo practice at the Cowboys’ facility for a total of three open sessions out west.
“Once the preseason schedule came out, it made sense for us to just kind of shoot down after the Friday night game at Oakland down to L.A., and then we move out to the Thousand Oaks area,” Fisher said. “We’ll practice with them at training camp for a couple of days and then we’re also going to use their facility on Wednesday and then come back. It kind of shortens camp up a little bit, but it’s the first time that this group has been through that experience and to have an opportunity to practice against another team — a good football team. I think we would benefit from it.”
For more information on the eight open sessions at Rams Park and three in California, check out our training camp schedule here.
5) End of OTAs
Finally, with OTAs coming to a close at the end of the week, Fisher said the team had accomplished what it set out to do in the third phase of the offseason program.
“I feel like from an installation standpoint, we’ve introduced a lot of situations to them,” Fisher said. “We’re happy to say we’ve got the rookies caught up. They’ve yet to lift with the vets, but they’re caught up on the field. I think the rookie class is doing an outstanding job mentally. We’re very fortunate right now that we haven’t had any setbacks on the practice field — haven’t had a single soft-tissue issue or anything. Had a couple guys that we’re resting, that we’re still kind of rehabbing and bringing along — day-on day-off type of thing — but I think we’re in pretty good shape.”
June 17, 2015 at 5:33 pm #26497wvParticipantI wonder what that means exactly. WHY did they shorten the verbiage on offense. Are the Rams players dum?
Is it a bad idea to do that? Good idea?w
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Whatta ya think? Is this “complex”, or simplified?
Well, it would confuse me: in my day, we just said “everybody go long”
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