Ejuan Price

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  • #68079
    zn
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    alyoshamucci wrote:

    Been talking about him for months…So stoked he’s in horns.

    Kid is all motor all football and he closes and finishes MUCH FASTER THAN HE TIMES.

    I originally gave him a top 50 grade… but I could not ignore his postseason measurements ..

    #68080
    zn
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    OVERVIEW

    “Juan” Price has a shoe collection that would make former leaders in the Philippines jealous. That collection may go into the thousands of pairs if he has as much success in the NFL as he had rushing the passer for Pitt the past two seasons. Price started his career as an inside linebacker, starting five games there as a true freshman in 2011 (27 tackles, 6.5 for loss, four sacks). But then the injuries came. He redshirted 2012 with a pectoral injury, missed half of the 2013 season (23 tackles, four TFL in six games) with a back injury, and sat out another full season with a chest muscle malady in 2014. Finally healthy in his fifth year with the Panthers, Price had 48 tackles, 19.5 for loss, and led the ACC in sacks per game (0.88, 11.5 totals) gaining a first-team all-conference nod. Five of those sacks came in one game against Louisville. Price had 13 sacks again in another first-team All-ACC season this fall, and was also named second-team Walter Camp All-American by ranking second in the FBS with 23 tackles for loss (45 total stops).

    ANALYSIS

    STRENGTHS Quick-twitch athlete with elite playmaking production over last two seasons. Stutter steps and head fakes in rush approach causes uncertainty for tackles. Able to juke inside and bounce back out to create an edge opening as rusher. Built low to ground and plays strong through redirect blocks to trim the edge. Flashes explosive spin counter that can create wins. Absolute bulldog when he smells a sack opportunity. Stout and strong. Big burst to close out quarterbacks. Disruptive in gaps against the run. Sudden stunts inside are often too quick for tackles to counter. Willing to take chances to make plays in backfield.

    WEAKNESSES Missed more than two seasons with injuries. Burst-based athlete missing long speed. Slow to transition when forced to make sharp directional changes. Unable to run down running backs headed for corner. Needs to finish plays. Can be quick to shut motor down if he doesn’t think a tackle is within range. Appeared gassed at times. Struggles to counter long-limbed tackles with a quick punch. Face-up rusher missing upper body flexibility and hip flip. Needs soft edge to turn the corner.

    DRAFT PROJECTION Round 5-6

    SOURCES TELL US “He’s a little ball of dynamite. He’s got some physical limitations, which will keep him from getting picked early, but I see an NFL rusher. He’s strong and twitchy and can finish when he gets the tackle beat.” — Director of scouting for NFC team

    NFL COMPARISON James Harrison

    BOTTOM LINE Stiff-hipped, straight-line rusher who is limited in his rush approach, but has the burst and twitch to finish what he starts. The comparison with James Harrison has more to do with the stature, playing style and rush production that both men possess. While his draft stock might be limited, he has the ability to be a sub-package rusher who could flash on the next level.

    -Lance Zierlein

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/ejuan-price?id=2558002

    #68082
    zn
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    PFF SCOUTING REPORT: EJUAN PRICE, EDGE, PITT

    The PFF analysis team breaks down the prospects of Pitt’s Ejuan Price ahead of the 2017 NFL Draft.

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/draft-pff-scouting-report-ejuan-price-edge-pitt/?utm_content=buffer4465f&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=nfl

    Name: Ejuan Price

    School: Pittsburgh

    Position: Edge defender

    Stats to know: 27 sacks over the past two seasons.

    What he does best:

    So talented with his hands. Almost never lets anyone get into his body.
    Size leaves offensive tackles a tiny strike zone. Forces tackles to time punch perfectly or he’s wriggling free.
    Short-area quickness is ridiculous. Can tilt a shoulder and be across the face of an offensive lineman in the blink of an eye.
    Deadly spin move. As quick as anyone’s in the class.
    Knows how to use his size to his advantage and gain leverage.
    Balance is superb. Low to the earth and rarely gets top heavy because of it.
    Gaining control of him on outside zone was a nightmare for tackles.

    Biggest concern:

    Incredibly small to hold up on the edge in the NFL. Liability to get swallowed up on any given play by offensive tackle..
    Missed multiple full seasons due to injury (back and pec).
    Not much positional versatility. Has to be out on the edge if he’s playing early downs.
    Rarely likes to engages with offensive tackles. When he does, he struggles to get separation and finish plays.
    Limited burst. NFL tackles won’t be nearly as afraid of losing to him on the outside as college one’s were. Will limit effectiveness of his pass rushing moves.

    Player comparison: None

    Any legitimate comp to Price has to be an edge player 6 foot or shorter as that’s by far his defining characteristic. Price doesn’t have the raw strength of James Harrison or the burst of Elvis Dumervil. At that point there’s really no one left.

    Bottom line: We want to believe in Price. After overcoming multiple serious injuries in college and his obvious size disadvantage, Price is easy to root for. The fact of the matter is though that undersized pass rushers are behind the 8-ball in the NFL. You’ll be hard-pressed to find an NFL tackle without long arms to keep Price at bay on the edge. Even still, Price has so many elite tools in his toolbox that he could be the rare exception to the rule.

    #68084
    zn
    Moderator

    Graded at # 80 overall by PFF, we got him at #234

    Most 5-foot-11 players simply can’t hold up on the edge in the NFL. There’s good reason to think Price is different. His balance and pass-rushing repertoire are both superb. His 29 combined sacks and hits were the second-most in the country last year. — Mike Renner, @PFF_Mike

    #68085
    zn
    Moderator

    jrry32 wrote:

    Price can really get after the passer. He has some limitations as a run defender because of his lack of length. He’ll hold his ground and stack his blocker (very strong with natural leverage), but he struggles getting off blocks. As a pass rusher, though, he’s very difficult to stop. He’s so low to the ground when he rushes that most OTs struggle to get a hand on him. He has tremendous burst off the LOS, is a very strong player who can play through contact, and is always looking to finish. Most OTs are tall. Price uses that against them like James Harrison and Elvis Dumervil does. He gets underneath them and powers through to get around the corner.

    I like him a lot. It’s possible that Ejuan could also slide inside and play as our SILB.

    #68100
    zn
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    #68107
    canadaram
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    Ourlads

    Started for two injury-free years. Sixth-year Senior who red-shirted in 2012 due to injury. Received a medical red-shirt in 2014. First-team All-ACC in 2015 and 2016. A block of muscle that is built low to the ground and almost impossible for blockers to get under. Tremendous knee bend and leg strength. Weight is distributed perfectly up and down his frame. Quick and agile. Creates late, subtle but effective movement right as the blocker makes his move. Has an array of pass rush moves. Can make himself small and slippery. Sneaky explosion up the edge and will turn the corner at a ninety degree angle with unmatched power and strength. Instinctive near the ball. Knows how to finish and brings violence to the action. Plays the run equally hard and disciplined. Bottom tier length. Won’t have some important tools to fall back on when his approach isn’t working. Lacks pursuit speed. A lack of range against the run is apparent. Will get locked onto and have a hard time getting free. Motor isn’t always on. Needs conditioning work. Has a long history of injuries. Began is career as inside linebacker but then missed serious time with multiple chest and back injuries. He missed the entire 2012 and 2014 seasons. After a move to defensive end, Price became one of the most productive defenders in the country over the past two seasons. He will be overlooked by many because he lacks some of the “vital” tools. How he is OCD about his technique and understands how to both mentally and physically beat a blocker. He is a nightmare for tackles to handle. There are lots of tricks up his sleeve and he understands how and when to use them. 2016 stats: 45 T, 23 TFL, 13 sacks, 3 FF, 14 QBH, 1 PBU, 1 BK. Fifth/sixth round.

    "It's nice to be nice to the nice." ~Frank Burns

    #68110
    canadaram
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    Brugler

    EJUAN PRICE | Pittsburgh
    5113|241 lbs|6SR Rankin, Pa. (Woodland Hills) 1/30/1993 (age 24) #5

    Grade: 5th-6th round

    BACKGROUND: A three-star linebacker recruit out of high school, Price originally committed to Ohio State as part of the 2011 recruiting class, but requested to be released from his letter of intent following Jim Tressel’s resignation in May 2011. He decided to stay close to home and signed with Pitt, starting five games as a true freshman and posting 27 tackles, 6.5 tackles for loss and 4.0 sacks. After sitting out the 2012 season due to injury, Price returned in 2013 and recorded 4.0 tackles for loss over four starts before a different injury sidelined him for the rest of the season. He rehabbed and returned to the field, but another injury forced him to miss the entire 2014 season. Price stayed healthy in 2015 and started all 13 games, leading the team with 19.5 tackles for loss and 11.5 sacks to earn First Team All-ACC honors. He was granted a medical hardship waiver and returned to Pitt for the sixth season in 2016, setting career-bests with 23.0 tackles for loss, 13.0 sacks and three forced fumbles to earn First Team All-ACC and multiple All-American honors. Price accepted his invitation to the 2017 East-West Shrine Game, but missed most of the week due to injury.
    STRENGTHS: Naturally low pad level to gain leverage and get underneath blockers…fires out of his stance to run the arc or knife through gaps…lateral quickness and body control to shake blockers in space…explosive off the edge to dip and win the corner, forcing the quarterback to move from his spot…sharp cutting ability to make 90-degree turns without slowing down…eyes are always trained on the ball…recognition skills to sniff out plays and not fooled by much…powerful hands to fight off jabs and keep himself free…hunting motor doesn’t have an off switch and wastes little time attacking the pocket…competes with the same fight each snap despite rarely coming off the field the past two seasons…graduated with a degree in communications (May 2015)…voted a senior captain…elite production the past two seasons, ranking No. 2 in the FBS with 23.0 tackles for loss in 2016…blocked two PATs.

    WEAKNESSES: Tweener frame with below average measurements…lacks the arm length to get free once blockers swallow him up…too easily stonewalled when blockers keep him square…lacks the field range to move to an off-ball linebacker role full-time…only average pursuit speed…overaggressive and loses control on tackle attempts…pass rush based more on persistence than planning…older prospect and already 24-years old…bright red flags with his medical history, missing almost three full seasons due to injury – shelved for the 2012 season due to a right pectoral injury (April 2012); missed most of the 2013 season after injuring his back (Oct. 2013); missed all of the 2014 season after surgery on his left pectoral (July 2014).

    SUMMARY: A two-year starter at Pittsburgh, Price lined up primarily in a three-point stance at left and right defensive end in Pitt’s 4-3 base defense and was one of the most productive pass rushers in college football the past two seasons – tied with Aaron Donald for fourth on the school’s all-time sacks list (29.5). With his initial quickness, explosive hands and unforgiving motor, he lived in the backfield in college (51.1% of his tackles in 2016 were behind the line of scrimmage), but his size dimensions lead to NFL transition and fit concerns. Although he lacks the skill-set to be an every-down player at the next level, Price has the pass rush ability to be a productive subpackage edge rusher and poor man’s Elvis Dumervil – strong bet to be under-drafted.

    "It's nice to be nice to the nice." ~Frank Burns

    #68136
    canadaram
    Participant

    From Drew Boylhart

    http://www.thehuddlereport.com/archive/2017profiles/Ejuan.Price.htm

    Ejuan Price ER/LB Pittsburgh
    TALENT
    ROUND 5
    STRENGTHS
    Ejuan is pound for pound one of the best and complete defensive Edge Rushers in this draft and the chances of him getting selected in the seven rounds of this draft are slim to none. He is quick and powerful off the line with excellent hand fighting techniques. He is the quickest at shedding blocks and making tackles and changes the line of scrimmage to his benefit on every snap. He requires a double team and I have even seen some teams at times double team him with two big offensive linemen and then triple team him using a running back to chip block him. Ejuan has more tackles behind the line of scrimmage then just about any defensive lineman in this draft. He is strong against the run, holding up when double teamed allowing his teammates to make tackles. Ejuan has talent and production that is equal (if not better) than any Edge Rushing defensive lineman in this draft and the truth is if Ejuan was 4 inches taller…he might be the 1st player selected in this draft or at least a 1st Round draft pick but… he isn’t 4 inches taller and reality is reality.

    CONCERNS
    Ejuan numbers at the combine are 5’ 11”, 241 lbs. on top of that Ejuan ran a 4.84 in the forty but he did show his quickness running 1.66 in 10 yards. The fact is, to think Ejuan can be as impacting and competitive as an edge rusher in the NFL at his stature is a stretch. He will have to change positions and until he learns and proves that he can handle a new position (LB) I suspect that Ejuan will just be considered as a special teams player and a priority undrafted free agent for special teams after the draft.

    BOTTOM LINE
    Ejuan is an excellent college player and an impacting college player but until he gets play in NFL game conditions there is no way to evaluate if that impact can be carried over to the NFL. London Fletcher was an undrafted free agent who played linebacker in college who was the same size as Ejuan. The big difference is, London played Middle linebacker his entire football career and Ejuan plays as a hand on the ground defensive end. London Fletcher in spite of his size holds the record in the NFL for 215 Consecutive games STARTED at his position and was a core player for three team’s defenses at the MLB position. When I see Ejuan on the field all I can think of is London Fletcher. Same size, same athletic talent, same leadership skills same heart and passion, although London never had the technical skills to rush the passer that Ejuan has. I really believe that Ejuan has a special talent and I think he’s the type of player who could be used in a Clay Mathews like situation moving him around your defense to gain matchups in his favor that will allow him to become an impact pass rushing menace. Nevertheless, I would suspect that he will be considered a very late round pick or by most teams… a priority free agent after the draft is over. I’ll be honest, that’s how I would have to list him also. I mean truthfully how many 5’11’’ edge rushes are in the NFL? Could Ejuan be the exception? The answer is yes… he could be the exception if he ever gets on the field in a game to show it. The problem in the NFL is, once you get labeled it’s hard to find a coach that will rip off that label to see if there is another label underneath.

    Drew Boylhart APR.2017

    "It's nice to be nice to the nice." ~Frank Burns

    #68199
    zn
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    #68205
    Agamemnon
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    If you can rush the passer, we have a place for you.

    Agamemnon

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