Coriolanus

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  • #52346
    wv
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    This is how dumm I am. I picked up a dvd at a yard sale. Coriolanus.

    I thought it was a historical story about a modern Italian general. Five minutes into the movie, I thought “Geez, these guys sound like Shakespeare”.

    How come I never heard of Coriolanus? Nobody talks about it, like Hamlet and Othello, etc.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolanus
    Analysis and criticism

    A. C. Bradley described this play as “built on the grand scale,”[15] like King Lear and Macbeth, but it differs from those two masterpieces in an important way. The warrior Coriolanus is perhaps the most opaque of Shakespeare’s tragic heroes, rarely pausing to soliloquise or reveal the motives behind his proud isolation from Roman society. In this way, he is less like the effervescent and reflective Shakespearean heroes/heroines such as Macbeth, Hamlet, Lear and Cleopatra, and more like figures from ancient classical literature such as Achilles, Odysseus, and Aeneas—or, to turn to literary creations from Shakespeare’s time, the Marlovian conqueror Tamburlaine, whose militaristic pride finds its parallel in Coriolanus. Readers and playgoers have often found him an unsympathetic character, although his caustic pride is strangely, almost delicately balanced at times by a reluctance to be praised by his compatriots and an unwillingness to exploit and slander for political gain. His dislike of being praised might be seen as an expression of his pride; all he cares about is his own self-image, whereas acceptance of praise might imply that his value is affected by others’ opinion of him. The play is less frequently produced than the other tragedies of the later period, and is not so universally regarded as great. (Bradley, for instance, declined to number it among his famous four in the landmark critical work Shakespearean Tragedy.) In his book Shakespeare’s Language, Frank Kermode described Coriolanus as “probably the most fiercely and ingeniously planned and expressed of all the tragedies”.[16]

    T. S. Eliot famously proclaimed Coriolanus superior to Hamlet in The Sacred Wood, in which he calls the former play, along with Antony and Cleopatra, the Bard’s greatest tragic achievement. Eliot wrote a two-part poem about Coriolanus, “Coriolan” (an alternative spelling of Coriolanus); he also alluded to Coriolanus in a passage from his own The Waste Land when he wrote, “Revive for a moment a broken Coriolanus.”[17]

    Coriolanus has the distinction of being among the few Shakespeare plays banned in a democracy in modern times.[18] It was briefly suppressed in France in the late 1930s because of its use by the fascist element, and Slavoj Zizek noted its prohibition in Post-War Germany due to its intense militarism.[19]

    Coriolanus has fewer familiar characters than either Troilus and Cressida or Antony and Cleopatra, yet it shares thematic interests with these plays.[20]

    #52365
    Zooey
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    I like the play a lot. Better than Macbeth which I think is overrated. I haven’t seen the movie, but I have seen in on stage 3 times. Is the movie any good?

    #52370
    wv
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    I like the play a lot. Better than Macbeth which I think is overrated. I haven’t seen the movie, but I have seen in on stage 3 times. Is the movie any good?

    I have almost finished the movie, and I thought it was quite good. Seemed to get better as it went along, too.

    Course, i could watch Vanessa Redgrave read a phone book and I’d
    be fascinated.

    And Ralph Fiennes, who i never would have cast in that part, was great. I had no idea he could create such…intensity/weight/presence. That guy can act.

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