Can we compete against the Vikings?

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  • #77359
    JackPMiller
    JackPMiller
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    Now we are going to play a much better football team. It will be on the road. Case Keenum, I know is looking forward to this game as well, since he was our QB last year.

    #77368
    InvaderRam
    InvaderRam
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    the rams can totally compete against the vikings. i don’t think that can be questioned. they can compete against any team in the nfl.

    can they beat them? i think they can. i think this team is good in all phases. that’s always tough to beat.

    #77388
    Zooey
    Zooey
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    The Vikings’ victories have largely come at the expense of sub .500 teams. They don’t make their schedule, and they beat the teams that good teams beat, but they haven’t played a team as good as the Rams yet. This will be a big test for both teams.

    #77390
    Eternal Ramnation
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    They did lose to the Pack with AR and the Lions. That D is no joke Keenum fits Shurmer’s system well but Donald and Co will rattle him with pressure. Diggs and Theilan are damn good and they have a good ground game as well. The Rams can beat them but the can’t give away the first half . They’ll need to be sharp and bring it early especially the D.

    #77428
    canadaram
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    Sure the Rams can compete with the Vikings. However, since I’m making the trip south to attend this game a Rams win seems highly unlikely. Sorry in advance.

    "It's nice to be nice to the nice." ~Frank Burns

    #77431
    Zooey
    Zooey
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    Remember all those Viking flamers years ago?

    I can’t remember the handle of that one guy. I remember Mjollnir’s Wrath, I think it was, who was actually “conversational.” There was another guy, though. Those were that days! Over at Rivals.

    #77441
    Agamemnon
    Agamemnon
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    Starting with the Vikings, it is like being in the playoffs.

    Agamemnon

    #77444
    Zooey
    Zooey
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    Starting with the Vikings, it is like being in the playoffs

    I like them to sweep the division rivals. Splitting the other four should get them the division. I think if the Rams are still a game up after the Saints game, going into December, they’ve got it.

    #77445
    wv
    wv
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    Starting with the Vikings, it is like being in the playoffs.

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    Damn. I didnt realize the Titans were doing that well. Man O Man.

    That is the toughest stretch I’ve ever seen the Rams play. Ever.

    I’d be happy with 4-3.

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    #77452
    Zooey
    Zooey
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    Damn. I didnt realize the Titans were doing that well. Man O Man.

    That is the toughest stretch I’ve ever seen the Rams play. Ever.

    I’d be happy with 4-3.

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    Of course you would.

    That would give the Seahawks a fighting chance.

    BTW, for the Rams fans on the board, it’s even tougher than this table shows because the 9ers are actually 1-9.

    #77464
    InvaderRam
    InvaderRam
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    so i went on football outsiders to see how they ranked goff after week 10. they now have him ranked fifth among all starting qbs…

    just behind case keenum! well. should be interesting game this week. for what it’s worth keenum also ranks third in espn’s total qbr stat! he’s fourteenth in passer rating.

    also. football outsiders has brees ranked third. wentz sixth. so rams will be facing three top 6 qbs in the next four weeks. yikes. not to mention russell wilson and marcus mariota after that.

    it’s gonna be a ride for sure.

    #77472
    Zooey
    Zooey
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    I’ll say this. The Rams have a very good offense, a very good defense, very good special teams, and a creative coaching staff that makes good halftime adjustments.

    We’ve seen teams play at a higher level.

    But…the team’s only real weakness is inexperience and youth. It also lacks depth is certain places, but the starters are doing well in every unit. This is a good team.

    We are entering the gauntlet now, and we will get an idea in the next couple of games whether the Rams are a cut above, roughly equal with the best, or a notch below.

    In any event, the future looks good (sign Donald), and we are clearly finished with the long, cold winter of nothingness. The Rams are relevant again, at the very least.

    Let’s go.

    #77486
    Zooey
    Zooey
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    Just browsed around the schedules of those top teams, and it looks like Tennessee is perhaps not as good as their record suggests. Their defense is 22nd in points allowed, and even though they are 6-3, they’ve been outscored overall, and have lost to Oakland, Miami, and Houston (before Watson’s injury). They appear to be the weakest of those 4 division leaders, and I would bet that they lose out to Jacksonville for their division by the end of the season.

    The Saints are the most impressive in terms of points scored/allowed, and their strength of schedule. I didn’t look at team rankings. All of these teams, plus the Seahawks, are serious threats, though.

    #77487
    joemad
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    I think the Rams can beat Case….. but the Rams have to limit mistakes and penalties….

    Vikings under Zimmer play disciplined football. Once again the Vikings are one of the least penalized teams…. especially when the Vikings play at home.

    YTD NFL Penalties URL = https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/penalties-per-game?date=2017-11-16

    #77488
    PA Ram
    PA Ram
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    The Vikings are VERY good against the run.

    But I hope that McVay does not abandon that early. The Rams success relies so much on play action and Gurley will have to at least keep them honest and hit a couple of big runs.

    Also–I’d be surprised if Goff has a mistake free game in this one. The Vikings defense is too good and I believe they will force him to speed up this game. He won’t have 5 seconds to sit back and wait for receivers.

    On defense the Rams will probably find a slippery Case Keenum looking to freelance and work with two very good receivers. The secondary will have to hold up in this one to make his life miserable. Also the Rams will have to be tough against the run. There are times they seem very vulnerable there but if they can take away the running game and put it all on Case he can make some mistakes.

    I see a tough, hard fought game between two pretty equal teams. The Vikes have the added benefit of home field. It will be very loud. Whoever makes the fewest mistakes wins this one.

    I don’t see it being a 40-38 game, however.

    I see a lower scoring defensive struggle. The defense may have to win this one.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #77495
    snowman
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    Keenum has limited ability to avoid pressure. I expect the Vikings will try to avoid our pass rush and minimize the risk of Keenum throwing picks by calling a lot of short, quick pass plays. Short slants, curls, bubble screens and dump-offs to McKinnon, stuff like that. Personally, I do not respect their run game without Dalvin Cook. Murray is not fast nor elusive, and McKinnon is too small to run between the tackles. Rudolph has not seen many targets; Keenum likes Theilen and the backs. Diggs was out part of October with an injury, so I don’t know if he is 100% yet.

    Defensively they are pretty solid all around. Linval Joseph is stout against the run; Griffen, Robison and Barr can rush the QB; Rhodes and Harrison are very good DBs; and Kendricks is a good LB. The LCB, with either Terrence Newman or Trey Waynes, is a weak spot compared to the rest. The speed of Woods, Watkins and Gurley is something the Vikings have not seen from their opponents so far.

    Their special teams are nothing special. We have the better kickers hands down; coverage and return units are probably equal.

    I expect the Rams will win by less than a TD, under 45 points in the game.

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    #77497
    Zooey
    Zooey
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    Yeah, I’m kinda thinking special teams could be the difference in this one, too.

    I am so ready for this game.

    I haven’t sat around like this waiting for a game for a long time. I was ready for this game yesterday. Sunday is just too far away for me.

    #77499
    InvaderRam
    InvaderRam
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    yeah i’ve been ready for this game since monday. it’s like i can’t wait for the next game, but i also want to savor each victory. i’ll probably go watch the houston game tonight.

    i agree that special teams will have to make a difference. maybe a big return or two. a big time field goal or something.

    i also think goff is gonna have to do something special. i don’t know. rams have been good on the road, but this might be their toughest road test yet.

    #77518
    wv
    wv
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    Vikes lead series 26-16-2
    Rams have lost the last four.

    alltime series:http://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/los-angeles-rams/teamvsteam?opp=18

    2015 – 18-21
    2014 – 34-6
    2012 – 36-22
    2009 – 37-10

    #77588
    zn
    zn
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    Summ stattz

    Minn defense sack percentage, 7.2%, ranked 13th
    Minn defense INT percentage, 2.5%, ranked 12th

    Minn offense sack percentage, 3.2%, ranked 2nd
    Keenum INT percentage, 1.9%, ranked 15th

    LA defense sack percentage, 8.5%, ranked 3rd
    LA defense INT percentage, 4.0%, ranked 2nd

    LA offense sack percentage, 4.4%, ranked 6th
    Goff INT percentage, 1.3%, ranked ranked 5th

    #77601
    Zooey
    Zooey
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    You know, I think both New Orleans and Philadelphia are better than Minnesota.

    ergo, the Rams better win this game.

    #77612
    InvaderRam
    InvaderRam
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    You know, I think both New Orleans and Philadelphia are better than Minnesota.

    ergo, the Rams better win this game.

    yeah i think so too. it might have been a different story had bradford and cook been healthy.

    this nfc conference is stacked.

    and then they got tennessee. i don’t remember ever seeing a string of games like this before.

    #77615
    JackPMiller
    JackPMiller
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    I hear the Vikings are banged up in the secondary. So, I believe the Rams win, 24-23

    #77616
    nittany ram
    nittany ram
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    I think this will be one of those “growing pains” games for our young Rams.

    Win or lose, it won’t look as pretty as it has in recent weeks.

    They could scrape out a tough win, but I think it’s more likely that they lose in an ugly, defensive game.

    #77627
    Zooey
    Zooey
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    I think this will be one of those “growing pains” games for our young Rams.

    Win or lose, it won’t look as pretty as it has in recent weeks.

    They could scrape out a tough win, but I think it’s more likely that they lose in an ugly, defensive game.

    That’s exactly the kind of prediction we would expect from someone who is still fighting off acceptance of the fact that the Rams have surpassed the Seahawks in the power rankings.

    It is true that the Vikings have a good defense.

    But it is also true that the Rams have a good defense.

    And their offense is better. And their special teams are better.

    So…LOL at you, NittanyViking.

    #77638
    zn
    zn
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    Funny thing about this team. I KNOW it will be a winning team for years. They have the coaches, they have the players (for the most part or at least they’re almost there).

    But right now, it’s also a young team in the first year of a new coach’s program, with a lot of developing to do and a fair amount of question marks.

    So while I KNOW they will be a winning team for YEARS, I am not sure if they will win the next couple of games.

    And at the same time if they don’t, it won’t change my mind about their longterm outlook.

    #77650
    Zooey
    Zooey
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    My son texted me something from NextGen Stats on NFL.com. Apparently Goff makes fewer throws into tight windows than any other passer in the league. Cousins last year made the second-fewest tight window throws.

    #77651
    zn
    zn
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    My son texted me something from NextGen Stats on NFL.com. Apparently Goff makes fewer throws into tight windows than any other passer in the league. Cousins last year made the second-fewest tight window throws.

    Play action?

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