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August 20, 2017 at 2:10 am #72882znModerator
Jared Goff solid in Rams win over Raiders
By Rich Hammond
link: http://www.dailynews.com/sports/20170819/jared-goff-solid-in-rams-win-over-raiders
OAKLAND >> This is the Jared Goff the Rams drafted, or thought they drafted, anyway.
Goff didn’t look perfect in Saturday night’s 24-21 preseason victory over Oakland but, well, what’s a good word for almost perfect? Goff led the Rams on three scoring drives in four first-half possessions, and completed strong, accurate passses all over the field to seven different targets.
The Rams intended for Goff to leave the game early in the second quarter, but who knew that he would — or could — lead a 16-play drive that lasted nine minutes and led to a go-ahead field goal?
So, Goff played nearly the entire first half and completed 16 of 20 attempts for 160 yards, with one touchdown and zero interceptions. Coach Sean McVay pulled Goff after that, and allowed himself to awake from what must have seemed like a sweet dream.
The Rams led 7-0 and 14-7 in the first half, and took a 17-14 lead late in the second quarter on Greg Zuerlein’s 35-yard field goal. The Raiders took their first lead of the game with 6:30 left in the fourth quarter, on Connor Cook’s 17-yard touchdown pass to Johnny Holton.
Then, with 1:11 left, Rams quarterback Sean Mannion and rookie receiver Josh Reynolds connected on a 20-yard touchdown to put the Rams up 24-21.
It’s preseason football, of course, but one wondered how Goff would respond after a rough week of practice that included five interceptions in a two-day span. Goff shrugged and said he simply had been testing his boundaries. He and McVay seemed unconcerned, and now it’s obvious as to why.
Goff and McVay, the quarterback and the playcaller, seemed completely on the same page, and most impressively, Goff didn’t lock onto one receiver or thrive simply with short, dump-off completions.
It’s undeniable, though, that Goff already has developed a strong connection with rookie receiver Cooper Kupp, who finished with six catches for 70 yards and one touchdown.
Kupp appears to be in the early stages of a breakout season. He managed to get wide open for a 23-yard touchdown that gave the Rams a 7-0 lead on their first drive, and Kupp also made several tough catches in traffic and helped convert three third-down plays in the first half.
The Goff-Kupp connection was so strong that it overshadow two pretty important positives: the Rams debut of receiver Sammy Watkins and the continued strong play of running back Todd Gurley.
Watkins, who eventually should become the Rams’ No. 1 receiver, had an abbreviated week of practice after he arrived in a trade with Buffalo. Watkins started the game and had two catches (on four targets) for 8 yards.
In fact, Goff’s most impressive pass was one that didn’t connect. With the ball at the Raiders’ 28-yard line, Goff floated a perfect pass toward Watkins in the corner of the endzone. Watkins was tightly defended by Oakland cornerback Sean Smith and got one hand on the ball, but it fell incomplete.
It’s also fair to say that Gurley got Goff going, which rarely happened last season. Gurley played only the first quarter and finished with 38 yards on eight carries.
On the Rams’ first drive, Gurley had consecutive runs of 9 and 8 yards. On the next play, Goff connected with tight end Gerald Everett for a 24-yard completion, his longest of the night.
Rarely last season did opponents respect the Rams’ running game enough to free things up for Goff, but it seemed to happen Saturday. Gurley got rewarded with a 2-yard touchdown run late in the first quarter, a score that gave the Rams a 14-7 lead.
The Rams compiled 138 yards in the first quarter, an astonishing total for anyone who watched them stumble in previous years. Just as important, the Rams did not fumble Saturday, one week after they fumbled six times in a victory over Dallas.
Defense was a different matter for the Rams, who allowed the Raiders to score touchdowns on two of their first three possession.
The porous defense can be explained, in part, because the Rams held out two starting linebackers (Robert Quinn and Mark Barron) and three of their top five cornerbacks (Kayvon Webster, Nickell Robey-Coleman and Mike Jordan).
The Rams did get a first-quarter interception from cornerback Trumaine Johnson, and the second-team defense looked strong against the Raiders’ reserves.
August 20, 2017 at 2:12 am #72883znModeratorFive Takeaways: Preseason At Raiders
Myles Simmons
OAKLAND — The Rams’ first-team offense had an impressive showing against the Raiders, finishing the first half with a 17-14 lead. Los Angeles ended up winning the contest 24-21, but as we know there’s plenty more to preseason play than the final score. Here are five takeaways from the Rams’ second exhibition matchup.
1) Goff looks sharp
After a solid start to the preseason last week against Dallas, quarterback Jared Goff looked downright sharp against the Raiders on Saturday, completing passes to seven different receivers. The second-year quarterback finished 16-of-20 passing for 160 yards with a touchdown, playing all but one drive of the first half.
Goff led the Rams down the field for a touchdown on the game’s opening drive, taking only eight plays to reach paydirt. Following a Los Angeles takeaway, Goff again orchestrated an eight-play drive to bring the Rams another TD.
It was Los Angeles’ second touchdown of the first quarter, and second of their first three drives. In all, Goff engineered three scoring drives — the third of which was a field goal. That came after the Rams had taken left tackle Andrew Whitworth, left guard Rodger Saffold, and center John Sullivan out of the game.
“We just came out here and executed how we’re coached to execute,” Sullivan said at halftime. “We spent a little bit more time game planning this week, not like a full week, but we knew what to expect. We know our assignments. We came out here and executed as an offense and that’s how you end up with two touchdown drives in your first three.”
2) Goff to Kupp connection is strong
We’ve heard plenty about how rookie wide receiver Cooper Kupp could have a monster first season. It looked like that could be the case in the first half, as Goff hit the Eastern Washington product six times for 70 yards and a touchdown.
The longest completion was Kupp’s touchdown. Goff faked a handoff to running back Todd Gurley, the rolled out and found a wide open Kupp in the end zone for a 23-yard score.
Three of Kupp’s six receptions came on third down and resulted in first downs, which is a significant part of the reason why L.A. finished 6-of-8 in third-down efficiency in the first half.
3) Watkins plays during first half
Rams head coach Sean McVay said he expected new wide receiver Sammy Watkins to play with the first-team
offense, and that he did. Watkins finished with a pair of receptions for eight yards. Watkins’ first reception was a short pass on 3rd-and-2 for five yards, resulting in a first down. And his second came a play later — a screen pass that went for three yards.
One pass Goff and Watkins didn’t connect on was a one-on-one opportunity for Watkins. The wideout ran a go route and Goff threw a nice pass to the left side, but Watkins couldn’t corral it in the end zone.
But just Watkins’ presence may have had an impact early. On Kupp’s touchdown reception, Watkins was running a route underneath and looked like he drew more attention from the defense. That left Kupp wide open for the touchdown.
4) Johnson gets a pick
Cornerback Trumaine Johnson had a solid camp at UC Irvine and that translated to the field on Saturday.
In the first quarter, Oakland faced 3rd-and-6 for their own 34-yard line. Outside linebacker Connor Barwinpressured Raiders quarterback Derek Carr, but the signal-caller was able to evade the rush in the pocket. But when he fired a pass off to his right, Johnson was there to catch it and make the interception.
Johnson’s nine-yard return set the offense up at the Oakland 41. And the Rams took advantage of the field position, as Gurley ran in a two-yard touchdown to cap the drive.
5) Ball security significantly better
Last week, the Rams struggled with ball security, fumbling five times. That became a point of emphasis during the practice week, as the club’s offense started each session with a ball security circuit.
The extra work paid off, as Los Angeles did not fumble at all in the first half and surrendered no giveaways.
August 20, 2017 at 2:29 am #72887znModeratorRams’ first-team offense shines in comeback win over Raiders
By Alden Gonzalez
Trailing by 4 points with a little more than six minutes left in the game, backup quarterback Sean Mannion methodically marched the Los Angeles Rams up the field and connected with rookie Josh Reynolds for the decisive touchdown in a 24-21 preseason win on the road over the Oakland Raiders on Saturday night.
Mannion connected with Mike Thomas on a quick slant to keep the drive alive while facing fourth and 9 from the Raiders’ 37-yard line. On the next play, he sailed a 20-yard pass up the sideline to Reynolds, the long, athletic fourth-round pick, who beat out fellow rookie Chris Humes for the football with just over a minute remaining. The Rams’ offense looked good late, but was even more impressive early on.
Here are some notes on what stood out.
QB depth chart: Jared Goff put together what was quite possibly the most encouraging performance of his short NFL career. He finished 16-of-20 for 160 yards and a touchdown, with several impressive throws throughout the night. Goff led the Rams to two touchdowns and a field goal before exiting. His only real mistake was waiting too long to deliver a deep ball to an open Robert Woods, instead absorbing a sack from Khalil Mack. Besides that, Goff was exceedingly accurate and decisive. Mannion had another good day in relief of Goff, going 15-of-22 for 132 yards and a touchdown. That follows last week’s strong performance against the Cowboys, when Mannion was 18-of-25 for 144 yards.
When it was starters vs. starters, the Rams looked …: Like a well-oiled machine on offense. When’s the last time you read that? They went 6-for-8 on third down, picked up 12 first downs and consistently marched the ball up the field. Cooper Kupp made six catches (on seven targets) for 70 yards and a touchdown, and was wide open for a 23-yard catch on play-action to start the game. Todd Gurley, meanwhile, ran violently, with eight carries for 38 yards and a touchdown, on a 2-yard run up the middle. The Rams’ defense — which was without key players like Robert Quinn, Mark Barron, Kayvon Webster and Nickell Robey-Coleman — was shaky, allowing a couple of touchdowns to Oakland’s Derek Carr-led offense.
One reason to be concerned: Splitting hairs here. The Rams’ secondary got off to a rough start, though Webster, Robey-Coleman and Mike Jordan were all held out. On the Raiders’ first touchdown drive, Lamarcus Joyner committed two personal fouls in a span of four plays. On the Raiders’ second touchdown drive, Amari Cooper made a leaping catch despite triple coverage, and Michael Crabtree juked Troy Hill for a touchdown. The Rams did, however, get an interception from their primary corner, Trumaine Johnson, who had only one interception in 14 regular-season games last year.
That guy could start: Justin Davis won’t unseat Gurley as the featured running back, but the undrafted rookie is making a legitimate case to crack the roster, which is impressive in itself. Davis fumbled twice in the preseason opener, but he also gained 70 yards on nine carries. Davis picked up only 8 yards on five carries against the Raiders, but he gained another 20 on three catches and once again looked shifty with the ball in his hands. A knee injury has kept Lance Dunbar from practicing. And though Malcolm Brown has been used as Gurley’s backup, Davis may be forcing his way into the conversation.
Rookie watch: Kupp had another great showing. His best catch came on a quick slant, on which he was well-covered for a throw that sailed low and away. It was his third third-down reception, perhaps a sign of things to come. Tight end Gerald Everett made four catches for 30 yards, with one of those resulting in a 24-yard gain thanks to a nice cutback in space. Defensive lineman Tanzel Smart, who has impressed this summer, did a nice job of bringing down E.J. Manuel after he tried to escape the pocket. And Casey Sayles clinched the win with a sack.
Watkins watch: New receiver Sammy Watkins made his Rams debut, wearing No. 2, his number from Clemson, which he will have to change for the regular season. Watkins caught a 5-yard pass to convert on third down and also gained 3 yards on a screen. Watkins then ran a fly route in hopes of connecting with Goff downfield, but a well-placed throw near the end zone was broken up.
Injury report: Thomas absorbed a helmet-to-helmet hit by Anthony Cioffi while hauling in Mannion’s fourth-down throw near the middle of the field with about two minutes remaining. Thomas was checked on by Rams trainers and walked off on his own power. Backup outside linebacker Carlos Thompson had to be carted off the field after sustaining what appeared to be a significant injury to the lower part of his left leg. Raiders rookie offensive lineman Kareem Are launched himself toward the pile near the midway point of the fourth quarter, but instead caught Thompson’s knee.
August 21, 2017 at 3:25 am #72943znModeratorWhat we learned in the Rams’ 24-21 victory over the Oakland Raiders
Gary Klein
http://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/la-sp-rams-what-we-learned-raiders-20170820-story.html
What we learned in the Rams’ 24-21 preseason victory over the Oakland Raiders:
Jared Goff is comfortable in Northern California
The Rams’ second-year quarterback looked like a seasoned veteran at Oakland-Alameda County Stadium, where he said he played once during high school.
Goff completed 16 of 20 passes for 160 yards and a touchdown, with no interceptions, in less than two quarters of work.
Goff shook off a couple of rough practice days last week and looked confident running the offense. He appeared to just miss on a pass into the end zone for Sammy Watkins, a defender knocking it away at the last moment.
The Rams would be thrilled if Goff plays that well in his next trip to the Bay Area — a Week 3 Thursday night game against the San Francisco 49ers.
Running back Todd Gurley can carry a load
On a night when Gurley showed flashes of his rookie form, his most impressive run was a nine-yard gain that called for him to carry nearly the entire Raiders defense.
Gurley took a handoff and disappeared under a group of black jerseys. But Gurley kept his legs moving and advanced the ball for a first down.
Gurley rushed for 38 yards in eight carries and scored a touchdown. He also caught a 12-yard pass.
Tight ends Tyler Higbee and Gerald Everett need more blocking practice
Raiders end Khalil Mack is not easy to handle regardless of experience.
But second-year pro Higbee and rookie Gerald Everett appeared to let Mack get an easy shot at Goff for a sack.
Goff bounced up and completed a pass to Gurley on the next play.
Still, the Rams cannot let defenders get clean shots at Goff, especially someone such as Mack, the NFL’s 2016 defensive player of the year.
Sammy Watkins makes a difference just by being on the field
Watkins, playing in his first game for the Rams, was targeted four times and caught two short passes from Goff.
But the mere threat of Watkins requires defensive attention and opens the field for others.
Watkins was in the starting lineup along with Robert Woods and rookie Cooper Kupp.
Kupp was targeted seven times and caught six passes for 70 yards, including a 23-yard touchdown.
Woods caught two passes for 19 yards.
Rams’ Todd Gurley looks more like his old self with increased workload against the Raiders
Josh Reynolds is a red-zone threat
The rookie receiver from Texas A&M scored the game-winning touchdown on a 20-yard pass from Sean Mannion.
Reynolds, the Rams’ tallest receiver at 6-foot-3, beat a defender in the end zone. Immediately afterward, he remained composed as if he had scored 100 touchdowns in the NFL
That was Reynolds’ first.
Trumaine Johnson is motivated to prove his worth
The Rams decided not to give the veteran cornerback an extension, so he is playing the season under the franchise tag and then will hit the open market.
Johnson intercepted two passes by Goff during practice last week before picking off a pass by Raiders quarterback Derek Carr. The play set up the Rams’ second touchdown.
Johnson has looked more like the player who intercepted seven passes in 2015, not the one who had only one interception last season.
Ball-security drills might really work
After the Rams fumbled five times against the Dallas Cowboys, coach Sean McVay put the Rams through ball-security drills in every practice last week.
The emphasis paid dividends: the Rams fumbled only once against the Raiders and did not lose the ball.
We’ll learn more when Rams play the Chargers
The offense is making strides, but it has been difficult to get a true read on the new 3-4 defense because lineman Aaron Donald is a holdout over a contract dispute and other starters have been held out.
Linebackers Robert Quinn and Mark Barron as well as cornerback Kayvon Webster did not play in the first two preseason games. Cornerbacks Nickell Robey-Coleman and Mike Jordan were held out against the Raiders.
Saturday’s game at the Coliseum offers what is generally regarded as the final chance for starters to get work because coaches loathe exposing them to potential injury in the fourth preseason game.
August 21, 2017 at 3:27 am #72944znModeratorIs it finally time to believe in the Rams’ offense?
Alden Gonzalez
Jared Goff was calm and precise, Todd Gurley ran with patience and ferocity, and a collection of receivers — rookies like Cooper Kupp and Gerald Everett, veterans like Robert Woods and Sammy Watkins — made plays all over the field.
It was only a preseason game, not even an entire half of NFL football. But the way the starters navigated through an eventual 24-21 win on Saturday night allowed one to believe, for the first time in a long time, that the Los Angeles Rams may actually have a functional offense.
On the road, against a good Oakland Raiders team with no injured starters, the Rams’ first-team offense moved the ball effectively and efficiently, converting on six of eight third-down attempts while scoring two touchdowns and a field goal on four possessions.
Goff completed 16 of 20 passes for 160 yards, Gurley needed only eight carries to compile 38 yards on the ground, and Kupp hauled in six of seven targets to gain 70 yards through the air. Then there was Everett, who gained 24 yards thanks to a nice cut-back move near the sidelines. And Woods, coming in motion to turn a short pass into a 10-yard gain. And Watkins, finding the seam to pick up one of 12 first downs for the first-team offense in his first game with the Rams.
Keep in mind: Watkins has only been here a week.
“I’m catching onto it pretty quick,” Watkins, who finished with two catches for 8 yards, told reporters after the game. “I’ve got to get into a situation where I am not thinking. I am still thinking about the play and what I need to do. Once I get over that hump, I can go out there and play fast and make plays.”
The Rams have been last in the NFL in yards each of the last two years, and their offense has fallen outside the top 20 in defense-adjusted value over average after every season over the last decade. But if Saturday was any indication, first-year head coach Sean McVay, the 31-year-old offensive mastermind, is already making a significant impact.
It all started with an effective running game, the type that never really showed itself amid a 4-12 season in 2016.
Gurley, described by McVay as a “violent runner” in the Rams’ first joint practice, set the tone early. He gained 3 yards on a second effort to convert on the Rams’ first third-down attempt, then pushed the pile for a 9-yard gain and picked up another 8 along the left side. Two plays later, Goff ran play action, rolled right and found a wide-open Kupp over the top for a 23-yard touchdown pass to end the first drive.
In quotes provided by the Rams at halftime, Gurley said he “wanted to focus really on just being patient. Sometimes I feel like I’m running a little too fast and miss things, so I was just trying to be patient.”
“Any time you can run the ball, it opens up so much in your offense,” Goff said after the game. “It’s no different for us. Having a guy as special as [Gurley] is, both running the ball out of the backfield and catching the ball, it can open up everything.”
McVay often compares ideal quarterbacks to point guards who distribute the ball to an assortment of playmakers, and Goff did just that on Saturday. He completed passes to seven receivers, including Tyler Higbee, Malcolm Brown, Watkins, Woods, Everett, Kupp and Gurley. After going three-and-out on his second drive, Goff got help from a Trumaine Johnson interception and marched the Rams 46 yards on eight plays for a touchdown in his third.
He gained 11 yards by finding Kupp on the outside, picked up another 12 on a great throw to Higbee near the opposite sideline and nearly hooked up with Watkins downfield, throwing a perfectly placed pass that was batted away. An 8-yard run by Gurley made it third-and-2, and a nine-yard, juggling catch by Kupp put the ball on the 2-yard line, allowing Gurley to punch it in.
Goff’s performance came after a week when he threw six interceptions in a three-day span during practice.
“My experience up to this point with Goff is that he’s showing me that he’s nothing but a mentally tough guy,” McVay said. “He has great resilience and the ability to respond when things don’t work out.”
One of the keys was manageable third-down situations. The Rams needed more than 5 yards to move the sticks on only two of their eight third-down attempts. One of those was the result of Goff’s only glaring mistake of the night, when he waited too long to uncork a deep ball to an open Woods and absorbed a sack from Khalil Mack, the reigning Defensive Player of the Year.
Aside from that, Goff operated out of a clean pocket. He was decisive in his reads, and he benefitted from the balance of an effective Gurley.
Maybe it’s time to believe in the Rams’ offense again.
“It seemed like we were able to get into a pretty good rhythm,” McVay said. “… Overall, very pleased with the offensive effort.”
August 21, 2017 at 3:30 am #72945znModeratorJared Goff, Rams offense show real improvement against Raiders
VINCENT BONSIGNORE
OAKLAND — Jared Goff lofted a deep ball at Oakland Alameda Coliseum on Saturday night. Sammy Watkins, the Rams’ dynamic new wide receiver, galloped toward the end zone as the ball fell from the night. But just as it was about to settle into Watkins’ hands, a Raiders cornerback swatted it away.
On a night in which just about everything went right for Goff, the Rams and what appears to be their rapidly developing new offensive, the near touchdown elicited smiles rather than grimaces afterward.
Maybe it’s the feeling that play will be there for the Rams’ taking again sometime soon. And, if Goff launches the ball exactly the same as he did Saturday it almost assuredly will result in a touchdown.
“I told him on the sideline I’m going to keep throwing to him,” Goff said.
Or maybe it was just the realization that as good as things go sometimes – and they went pretty darn-near perfect for Goff and the offense Saturday – you just aren’t going to connect on every play.Whatever the catalyst, with the Rams offense humming in a way we just haven’t seen in awhile and with Goff looking every bit like the quarterback drafted first overall last year rather than the rookie that struggled all of his first season, the Rams could actually appreciate the near miss rather than lament it.
It was that kind of night for the Rams, whose first-team offense marched up and down the field against the Raiders while scoring 17 points in three drives.
And in the process, revealed a young quarterback in Goff who stood tall and poised in the pocket to pick the Raiders apart on 16-of-20 passing for 160 yards and a touchown. An offensive line that protected him – the only sack given up was when Raiders linebacker Khalil Mack savagely split open a tight end double-team – a rookie wide receiver in Cooper Kupp who keeps getting open against NFL defensive backs, and a creative offensive scheme under new coach Sean McVay that, coupled with the vast improvements at wide receiver, line and Goff, might finally add some excitement and firepower to that side of the line of scrimmage.
Even Todd Gurley looked better while averaging 4.8 yards per carry on eight touches.
It was only one night.
And a preseason game at that.
But even on a night a would-be touchdown went awry, there sure was plenty to smile about after Goff and the offense shredded the Raiders in a 24-21 victory.
“Once we moved the ball, got a couple of first downs and got into a rhythm, I think we could definitely feel it,” Goff said. “Certainly by the end of that second drive we felt like we had a good tempo going and we were able to move the ball on almost every down.”
That kind of efficiency has been hard to find with the Rams for so long, it seemed almost a shock to hear players and coaches openly talk about it.
The reality is, it’s probably to be expected. Or at least cautiously anticipated.
The Rams went deep this offseason to build a smoother road on which Goff at least had a fighting chance to reach his ceiling. And in turn, help pull the Rams offense into this century.
For all the flack the second-year quarterback took in a regrettable rookie season, no quarterback can muster much production when he’s playing under duress almost every time he drops back to pass, doesn’t have viable targets to throw to and has no running game to lean on in support.
The additions of left tackle Andrew Whitworth, center John Sullivan, receivers Kupp, Watkins, Robert Woods and Gerald Everett and the hiring of McVay were the Rams putting money and attention toward glaring problems. And from offseason workouts to their recently concluded training camp to the first two preseason games, it’s obvious those changes are taking hold.
And in the process, presenting us with a Goff who can now showcase the elite skill-set that pushed him to the top of the 2016 draft and the bevy of new toys he has to work with.
“I thought collectively our offensive line did a great job, Jared did a good job getting the ball out of his hands and the receivers and tight ends separated n the timing and rhythm of the play,” McVay said.
Kupp caught six passes for 70 yards and was a big-time target on third downs to keep drives alive.
“He’s great player,” Goff said. “He makes it easy for me, the way he runs his routes. He made some really good catches, contested catches, that were big time for us, moved the chains. We expect the same results in the future.”
Woods made two others for 19 yards. Everett, a rookie tight end from South Alabama, had four catches for 30 yards and a flashy 23-yarder to keep the chains moving.
Goff looked confident and alert spreading the ball around, and according to Pro Football Focus he completed 75 percent of his passes in which he wasn’t under pressure.
Amazing how that works, isn’t it?
You can’t discount what Goff did. He was billed as an accurate thrower coming out of Cal and a good decision-maker on where to go with the ball. He was every bit of that Saturday. But he also showed solid footwork in moving his pocket from time to time to buy an extra second or two for a receiver to break open before delivering solid throws.
It isn’t reason to celebrate. Yet.
But certainly it’s something real, something solid, to build on.
In particular, the 23-yard touchdown throw to Kupp in which Goff showed some nice footwork and alertness to let the play develop and then found the wide open Kupp for a touchdown.
“It was planned like that,” Goff said. “We ran it in practice with similar results, Cooper ran free. Came out, saw it, put the ball up.”
And to think, all of this after Goff opened this week in practice getting bitten by the interception bug, including three on Monday that, had the ball bounced differently could have been five.
By Saturday, he was razor sharp.
“My experience with Jared to this point is Jared is nothing but a mentally tough guy who has got resilience and the ability to respond when things don’t work out,” McVay said. “I think he’s able to take it for what it is and learn from it moving forward but I think it’s also our job as coaches to put him in situations that are conducive to making good decisions consistently.”
That happened quite a bit Saturday.
And it’s not to far-fetched to think that might be the norm this year rather than the exception.
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